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Old 25 Sep 2010, 03:47 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default Hey driver, do you know why cyclists hate you?

My local forum kindly provided me this article that shows why cyclists
are mad at you --if you are one those who dismiss cyclists as nothing
more than a monkey. Well, now that the monkeys are getting together,
you may have to think about it twice before... Hey, I don't to
politicize this article! Please read on...

(I changed the title)

Why Your Neighborhood Cyclist Hates You

Sure, you've laughed at cyclists' bulge-hugging Spandex shorts, rolled
your eyes when they use the street inches from the sidewalk, and if
you're a certain Latin pop star, you've even gotten drunk, hit them,
and then driven off with their bike still lodged in your front fender
while they lie bleeding on the side of the road. Asshole.

Ah, and let's not forget ladies, the bigger the truck the more
adorable you look. Even when you're texting, which has become such a
pain now that cyclists are sharing the road. What a nuisance. Well,
the feeling's mutual...kinda. The local cyclist we spoke to organizes
group rides to celebrate bicycles, encourage cycling, and to remind
drivers that they must share the road. Although this sounds about as
sweet as puppies and rainbows, there's still a few things that drivers
(and even cyclists) do that really jam up his gears:

1. Passing too closely
Hey buddy, there's a reason why there's a state law that every vehicle
must leave three feet of space between their car and a passing
cyclist. Would you want to inhale a lung-full of exhaust while an
8,000-pound machine whizzes two inches away from your vulnerable flesh
so they can get home in time to indulge in a Full House marathon and
binge on Sun Chips? We think not.

2. The right hook
This is when you speed up to pass a cyclist and then make an abrupt
right turn in their path. You usually underestimate your speed, which
means the cyclists has to stop abruptly so that don't crash into you.
For those who haven't experienced it firsthand, peacefully riding a
bike and then, all of a sudden, having your bike fly up and over your
head is more terrifying than thrilling.

3. Honking
Uh, yeah, driver, we kind of already know that you're there. You're
hard to miss. You're in a giant sedan. So, there's really no need to
honk. Unless you have one of those custom musical horns, it just makes
you look angry and obnoxious.

4. The door prize
Kudos on your awesome parallel parking skills and all but please, oh
please don't open your door without checking the bike lane first.
Otherwise, there'll be flesh crashing into metal and asphalt when the
cyclist flies off their bike and lands in traffic.

5. Cyclists who ride against traffic in the bike lane
For one, it's against the law, and creates a dilemma for fellow riders
who are obeying the rules. It's not fun to problem solve under three
seconds. Besides, if the unfortunate happens, and you do get hit by a
car on the wrong side, it's your fault. Don't ruin it for the rest of
us.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/culti...od_cyclist.php

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By the way I hate cyclists who ride on sidewalks (rather fast) and
don't want to join the revolution.


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Old 25 Sep 2010, 05:11 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Hey driver, do you know why cyclists hate you?

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:47:28 -0700 (PDT), His Highness the TibetanMonkey &
the Spirits of the Jungle wrote:

> My local forum kindly provided me this article that shows why cyclists
> are mad at you --if you are one those who dismiss cyclists as nothing
> more than a monkey. Well, now that the monkeys are getting together,
> you may have to think about it twice before... Hey, I don't to
> politicize this article! Please read on...
>


I've always wondered if those die hard bikers drive their cars the same way
they ride?
Like driving through stop signs. Most all bikers feel stop signs do not
include them. Pedestrians are a nuisance to them. Get the **** out of my
way man.

Many states require mirrors. I've seen tons of them with neither mirrors
nor mirrored glasses. When they want to switch a lane, they just do it. Not
even bothering to look. If a biker falls off his bike in your presence,
you get cited. Even though you did nothing.
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Old 25 Sep 2010, 05:34 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Hey driver, do you know why cyclists hate you?

On 2010-09-25 15:11:16 -0700, horse <horse@wild.man> said:

> On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:47:28 -0700 (PDT), His Highness the TibetanMonkey &
> the Spirits of the Jungle wrote:
>
>> My local forum kindly provided me this article that shows why cyclists
>> are mad at you --if you are one those who dismiss cyclists as nothing
>> more than a monkey. Well, now that the monkeys are getting together,
>> you may have to think about it twice before... Hey, I don't to
>> politicize this article! Please read on...
>>

>
> I've always wondered if those die hard bikers drive their cars the same way
> they ride?
> Like driving through stop signs. Most all bikers feel stop signs do not
> include them. Pedestrians are a nuisance to them. Get the **** out of my
> way man.
>
> Many states require mirrors. I've seen tons of them with neither mirrors
> nor mirrored glasses. When they want to switch a lane, they just do it. Not
> even bothering to look. If a biker falls off his bike in your presence,
> you get cited. Even though you did nothing.


There are those of us who ride safely, defensively, and properly, and
those whose ego makes them think drivers owe them respect.

A fatal kind of ego that loses against 3000 pounds of steel.

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patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine
these three areas, America will collapse from within." -- Josef Stalin

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Old 25 Sep 2010, 06:19 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Hey bicyclist, do you know why drivers hate you?

Why I Hate People On Bikes

I am probably going to make some folks angry by saying this but I really
hate bike riders in DC. Riding your bike around this city and to/from
work is a big thing here and I know it has a ton of great benefits. For
one, itıs better for the environment. I can also completely understand
the appeal to the bike rider because you donıt have to find a parking
spot, at home or when you get to work, and you get exercise! I totally
get it.

What I donıt get is how bicyclists apparently donıt have to follow any
rules of the road, can inhibit the flow of traffic on the way home from
work and no matter what the circumstances, if an accident occurs between
a car and a bike, public opinion will automatically side with the bike.
I canıt even tell you how many times Iıve come *thisclose* to hitting a
biker who came out of nowhere. Part of the reason that I hate the
bikers so much is because of this constant fear I have of mangling one
of them when I try to make a turn or pass another car. According to the
Washington Area Bicyclist Association website, bicyclists traveling on
roadways have the same rights and duties of drivers of vehicles. Well,
last time I checked, as a driver of a vehicle, I donıt have the right to
travel along side other vehicles in one-lane because I donıt want to
wait for the line of traffic at the stop sign or traffic light. I also
think that drivers of vehicles are required to stop at stop signs and
cross walks.

From what Iıve witnessed, riders of bikes do not feel that these same
³duties² of drivers apply to them. So many times Iıve maneuvered to go
around another car making a left, and almost been pummelled by a bike
coming up on my right. I always look before I make this move but these
bikes can come out of nowhere. Then they pass me and go straight
through the traffic light as if, as long as you look both ways, Red
means Go. I recognize that there are conveniences to riding a bike and
that in a lot of ways it is good for our city. And I know there are
plenty of bike riders who are very safe and conscientious (as well as I
know that there are plenty of drivers who break laws and do make it
unnecessarily dangerous for bike riders). But I donıt like the feeling
when Iım driving that any day now Iım going to make a completely legal
maneuver and hit a bicycle that I didnıt see and then become Public
Enemy #1 despite the fact that the biker was not following the rules.

Just the other day my husband and I were walking our dog and stopped at
the crosswalk at our intersection which has 4-way stop signs. I should
note that even cars ignore these stop signs, or donıt see them, so it is
a generally dangerous place to cross. We looked both ways for cars and
saw that there were none stopped and none approaching soon. So, with
the knowledge that any car that then approached would have to yield to
the stop sign and our presence in the crosswalk, we stepped off the
curb. Only to have our dog almost run over by a biker speeding down the
middle of the street and darting out into the crosswalk without even
pausing at the stop sign or seeming to notice that we were there. How
is this okay? I think bikers have to pick whether to act like a car or
act like a pedestrian and not act like whichever one of these is most
convenient at the time. If youıre going to hold car drivers to certain
rules of the road, and particular rules that apply to sharing the road
with bikes, then the same has to be true for the bikers.

And to prove my point to those of you who are thinking that accidents
caused by bicyclists never happen and are therefore an irrational fear
of mine Š let me tell you the story of what happened to me this weekend.
We were down in North Carolina for a wedding and on our drive back up we
stopped at the UNC and Duke campuses. We were walking through the UNC
campus when my husband said, not in a panicked voice, ³ooh, watch out.²
And 1/2 a second later I was hit square in the back by a kid speeding
along on a bicycle. The bike ran right over my left ankle and he and
his backpack smacked into my back before he fell onto the ground. The
crazy thing about this is that we were walking on a wide pathway that
was maybe 20 feet wide. The biker was going full speed. My husband saw
him out of the corner of his eye and saw that he was coming right at us
but thought there was no possible way that he wouldnıt turn. Well he
didnıt turn and the result is tire tracks across my foot and a ruined
pedicure. I feel very luckily that it wasnıt worse than that. My
husband had pulled me about half a foot towards him ³just in case² and I
think those 6 inches probably saved me from a terrible injury. Of
course the kid was profusely apologetic and it was clear this was a
complete accident (he said his leg got caught when he tried to turn) but
it just illustrates my point that bikers can be very dangerous and they
have as much of a responsibility to look out for pedestrians and drivers
as we have to look out for them.

from:

http://legeytimate.wordpress.com/200...ople-on-bikes/



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<249f8ccc-fb80-4352-9ccb-f62ebf44ebcc@d17g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My local forum kindly provided me this article that shows why cyclists
> are mad at you --if you are one those who dismiss cyclists as nothing
> more than a monkey. Well, now that the monkeys are getting together,
> you may have to think about it twice before... Hey, I don't to
> politicize this article! Please read on...
>
> (I changed the title)
>
> Why Your Neighborhood Cyclist Hates You
>
> Sure, you've laughed at cyclists' bulge-hugging Spandex shorts, rolled
> your eyes when they use the street inches from the sidewalk, and if
> you're a certain Latin pop star, you've even gotten drunk, hit them,
> and then driven off with their bike still lodged in your front fender
> while they lie bleeding on the side of the road. Asshole.
>
> Ah, and let's not forget ladies, the bigger the truck the more
> adorable you look. Even when you're texting, which has become such a
> pain now that cyclists are sharing the road. What a nuisance. Well,
> the feeling's mutual...kinda. The local cyclist we spoke to organizes
> group rides to celebrate bicycles, encourage cycling, and to remind
> drivers that they must share the road. Although this sounds about as
> sweet as puppies and rainbows, there's still a few things that drivers
> (and even cyclists) do that really jam up his gears:
>
> 1. Passing too closely
> Hey buddy, there's a reason why there's a state law that every vehicle
> must leave three feet of space between their car and a passing
> cyclist. Would you want to inhale a lung-full of exhaust while an
> 8,000-pound machine whizzes two inches away from your vulnerable flesh
> so they can get home in time to indulge in a Full House marathon and
> binge on Sun Chips? We think not.
>
> 2. The right hook
> This is when you speed up to pass a cyclist and then make an abrupt
> right turn in their path. You usually underestimate your speed, which
> means the cyclists has to stop abruptly so that don't crash into you.
> For those who haven't experienced it firsthand, peacefully riding a
> bike and then, all of a sudden, having your bike fly up and over your
> head is more terrifying than thrilling.
>
> 3. Honking
> Uh, yeah, driver, we kind of already know that you're there. You're
> hard to miss. You're in a giant sedan. So, there's really no need to
> honk. Unless you have one of those custom musical horns, it just makes
> you look angry and obnoxious.
>
> 4. The door prize
> Kudos on your awesome parallel parking skills and all but please, oh
> please don't open your door without checking the bike lane first.
> Otherwise, there'll be flesh crashing into metal and asphalt when the
> cyclist flies off their bike and lands in traffic.
>
> 5. Cyclists who ride against traffic in the bike lane
> For one, it's against the law, and creates a dilemma for fellow riders
> who are obeying the rules. It's not fun to problem solve under three
> seconds. Besides, if the unfortunate happens, and you do get hit by a
> car on the wrong side, it's your fault. Don't ruin it for the rest of
> us.
>
> http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/culti...hood_cyclist.p
> hp
>
> ***
>
> By the way I hate cyclists who ride on sidewalks (rather fast) and
> don't want to join the revolution.
>
>
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Old 25 Sep 2010, 06:20 pm   #5 (permalink)
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In article <8g7bo1F7vbU1@mid.individual.net>,
Conscience <obama.is@fraud.gov> wrote:

> > I've always wondered if those die hard bikers drive their cars the same way
> > they ride?
> > Like driving through stop signs. Most all bikers feel stop signs do not
> > include them. Pedestrians are a nuisance to them. Get the **** out of my
> > way man.
> >
> > Many states require mirrors. I've seen tons of them with neither mirrors
> > nor mirrored glasses. When they want to switch a lane, they just do it. Not
> > even bothering to look. If a biker falls off his bike in your presence,
> > you get cited. Even though you did nothing.

>
> There are those of us who ride safely, defensively, and properly...


....but you're three out of thirty million.

The world is full of "it's all about me, **** you" egotists. And they
ride bicycles.
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Old 25 Sep 2010, 06:22 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On 2010-09-25 16:20:30 -0700, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> said:

> In article <8g7bo1F7vbU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Conscience <obama.is@fraud.gov> wrote:
>
>>> I've always wondered if those die hard bikers drive their cars the same way
>>> they ride?
>>> Like driving through stop signs. Most all bikers feel stop signs do not
>>> include them. Pedestrians are a nuisance to them. Get the **** out of my
>>> way man.
>>>
>>> Many states require mirrors. I've seen tons of them with neither mirrors
>>> nor mirrored glasses. When they want to switch a lane, they just do it. Not
>>> even bothering to look. If a biker falls off his bike in your presence,
>>> you get cited. Even though you did nothing.

>>
>> There are those of us who ride safely, defensively, and properly...

>
> ...but you're three out of thirty million.
>
> The world is full of "it's all about me, **** you" egotists. And they
> ride bicycles.


On bicycles AND motorcycles.

On two wheels, you don't argue with 3000 pounds of steel.

But to be fair, at least 80% of four-wheeled drivers are too stupid to live.

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patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine
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Old 25 Sep 2010, 06:35 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Sep 25, 4:20 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <8g7bo1F7v...@mid.individual.net>,
>
> Conscience <obama...@fraud.gov> wrote:
> > > I've always wondered if those die hard bikers drive their cars the same way
> > > they ride?
> > > Like driving through stop signs. Most all bikers feel stop signs do not
> > > include them. Pedestrians are a nuisance to them. Get the **** out of my
> > > way man.

>
> > > Many states require mirrors. I've seen tons of them with neither mirrors
> > > nor mirrored glasses. When they want to switch a lane, they just do it. Not
> > > even bothering to look. If a biker falls off his bike in your presence,
> > > you get cited. Even though you did nothing.

>
> > There are those of us who ride safely, defensively, and properly...

>
> ...but you're three out of thirty million.
>
> The world is full of "it's all about me, **** you" egotists. And they
> ride bicycles.


I think they drive more SUVs, phone in hand (as if they don't give a
damn)... and are really dangerous.

Cyclists can only be dangerous on sidewalks.

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Old 25 Sep 2010, 06:36 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Sep 25, 4:22*pm, Conscience <obama...@fraud.gov> wrote:
> On 2010-09-25 16:20:30 -0700, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <el...@nastydesigns.com> said:
>
>
>
> > In article <8g7bo1F7v...@mid.individual.net>,
> > *Conscience <obama...@fraud.gov> wrote:

>
> >>> I've always wondered if those die hard bikers drive their cars the same way
> >>> they ride?
> >>> Like driving through stop signs. Most all bikers feel stop signs do not
> >>> include them. Pedestrians are a nuisance to them. Get the **** out ofmy
> >>> way man.

>
> >>> Many states require mirrors. I've seen tons of them with neither mirrors
> >>> nor mirrored glasses. When they want to switch a lane, they just do it. Not
> >>> even bothering to look. *If a biker falls off his bike in your presence,
> >>> you get cited. Even though you did nothing.

>
> >> There are those of us who ride safely, defensively, and properly...

>
> > ...but you're three out of thirty million.

>
> > The world is full of "it's all about me, **** you" egotists. *And they
> > ride bicycles.

>
> On bicycles AND motorcycles.
>
> On two wheels, you don't argue with 3000 pounds of steel.
>
> But to be fair, at least 80% of four-wheeled drivers are too stupid to live.


And they have a License to Kill.

Now they can go ahead and kill me.
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Old 25 Sep 2010, 06:56 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:34:41 -0700, Conscience wrote:

> On 2010-09-25 15:11:16 -0700, horse <horse@wild.man> said:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:47:28 -0700 (PDT), His Highness the TibetanMonkey &
>> the Spirits of the Jungle wrote:
>>
>>> My local forum kindly provided me this article that shows why cyclists
>>> are mad at you --if you are one those who dismiss cyclists as nothing
>>> more than a monkey. Well, now that the monkeys are getting together,
>>> you may have to think about it twice before... Hey, I don't to
>>> politicize this article! Please read on...
>>>

>>
>> I've always wondered if those die hard bikers drive their cars the same way
>> they ride?
>> Like driving through stop signs. Most all bikers feel stop signs do not
>> include them. Pedestrians are a nuisance to them. Get the **** out of my
>> way man.
>>
>> Many states require mirrors. I've seen tons of them with neither mirrors
>> nor mirrored glasses. When they want to switch a lane, they just do it. Not
>> even bothering to look. If a biker falls off his bike in your presence,
>> you get cited. Even though you did nothing.

>
> There are those of us who ride safely, defensively, and properly, and
> those whose ego makes them think drivers owe them respect.
>
> A fatal kind of ego that loses against 3000 pounds of steel.



Really. But there arfe fools who try to "take back the road" and if you
hit them, you're at fault, no matter what. There are a few arrogant
bastards around here that must think "I'm a vehicle, too, so I'm going to
ride right in the middle of the road", on a 45 or 50 MPH road. Or ride two
abreast on corners.

Some of them are trying to qualify for the Darwin Awards, I think...


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Old 25 Sep 2010, 07:00 pm   #10 (permalink)
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On 2010-09-25 16:56:04 -0700, Hachiroku <anonymous@not-for-mail.invalid> said:

> Some of them are trying to qualify for the Darwin Awards, I think...


Herds are the worst. A gaggle of egos wearing matching jerseys,
thinking that everyone must make way for them all. No courtesy at all,
even for other cyclists.

Riding two, or even three abreast, they need to die just as much as
stupid drivers in automobiles.

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