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Old 23 Apr 2007, 05:52 am   #1 (permalink)
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This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL


<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn.../21/AR20070421
01385_pf.html>

And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5


"Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of this
tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a part of the
solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the earliest stages
of development, they are, in my mind, worth investigating. One of my
favorites is in the area of forest conservation which we heavily rely on
for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet
paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any
law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are
an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one
square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions
where 2 to 3 could be required."
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 06:41 am   #2 (permalink)
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dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:

> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL
>
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200
> 70421 01385_pf.html>
>
> And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5
>
>
> "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of
> this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a
> part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the
> earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth
> investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest
> conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a
> limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in
> any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of
> his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough
> people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom
> visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could
> be required."


The only way one square of toilet paper would work is if people washed
themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper.
Then we would be using excessive water of course.

These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general
population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she
rations toilet paper within her own home.

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“The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much
trouble to put makeup on two faces.” ~ Maureen Murphy
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 08:42 am   #3 (permalink)
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000@news.readfreenews.net...
> dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:
>
>> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL
>>
>>
>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200
>> 70421 01385_pf.html>
>>
>> And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5
>>
>>
>> "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of
>> this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a
>> part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the
>> earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth
>> investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest
>> conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a
>> limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in
>> any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of
>> his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough
>> people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom
>> visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could
>> be required."

>
> The only way one square of toilet paper would work is if people washed
> themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper.
> Then we would be using excessive water of course.


There are things that do this, called bidets. You can also get a bidet
attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the
pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets are
less practical.

> These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general
> population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she
> rations toilet paper within her own home.


Her rations wouldn't work very well. For example, the paper saved would be
offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for
taking more frequent showers.

More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding it
when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and
using the appropriate amount of paper for the job.

Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although the
increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids the
back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and
improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes. I
wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet paper,
I would never need to buy toilet paper again.

Jeff

> --
> "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much
> trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy


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Old 23 Apr 2007, 08:53 am   #4 (permalink)
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:42:06 +0000, Jeff wrote:

>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000@news.readfreenews.net...
>> dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL


>
> Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although
> the increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving
> kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper,
> and improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing
> taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on
> toilet paper, I would never need to buy toilet paper again.
>
> Jeff
>
>> --
>> "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much
>> trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy



Who gives a fart about TP? Most of it is made from recycled paper anyway!
That's what I mean about Greenies: they don't investigate anything before
they open their mouths!


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Old 23 Apr 2007, 08:58 am   #5 (permalink)
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In article <yQ1Xh.2080$nR1.403@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000@news.readfreenews.net...
> > dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:
> >
> >> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL
> >>
> >>
> >> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200
> >> 70421 01385_pf.html>
> >>
> >> And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5
> >>
> >>
> >> "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of
> >> this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a
> >> part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the
> >> earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth
> >> investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest
> >> conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a
> >> limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in
> >> any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of
> >> his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough
> >> people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom
> >> visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could
> >> be required."

> >
> > The only way one square of toilet paper would work is if people washed
> > themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper.
> > Then we would be using excessive water of course.

>
> There are things that do this, called bidets. You can also get a bidet
> attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the
> pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets are
> less practical.
>
> > These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general
> > population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she
> > rations toilet paper within her own home.

>
> Her rations wouldn't work very well. For example, the paper saved would be
> offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for
> taking more frequent showers.
>
> More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding it
> when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and
> using the appropriate amount of paper for the job.
>
> Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although the
> increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids the
> back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and
> improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes. I
> wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet paper,
> I would never need to buy toilet paper again.
>
> Jeff


I got a better idea. Just use your bare hands and then wipe THEM on
your paints, then in a week or so wash your paints in the creek. Saves
paper, water and soap. You will be green with envy from your friends
and co-workers. They will say, you dirty dog, why didn't we come up
with that idea. You will be doing your part to save the earth.
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 10:11 am   #6 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku ハチγƒ*γ‚―" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:Q_1Xh.3091$Zm.393@trndny03...
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:42:06 +0000, Jeff wrote:
>
>>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000@news.readfreenews.net...
>>> dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL

>
>>
>> Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although
>> the increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving
>> kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper,
>> and improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing
>> taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on
>> toilet paper, I would never need to buy toilet paper again.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> --
>>> "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much
>>> trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy

>
>
> Who gives a fart about TP? Most of it is made from recycled paper anyway!
> That's what I mean about Greenies: they don't investigate anything before
> they open their mouths!


Let's assume for the moment that toilet paper is made of recycled paper. The
paper has to be processed, which requires energy to transport the paper to
the toilet paper plant, the paper has to remade and bleached, packaged, and
trucked to the store, and then taken home, and the used toilet paper ends up
in sewer plants, which also use energy. Packaging the paper also uses
plastic. So, even if toilet paper is 100% recycled, there are still
significant environmental costs that can be reduced by using less toilet
paper.

Most of the fiber in toilet paper is not from recycled paper:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12318915/ &
http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Toilet-Paper.html

Jeff




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Old 23 Apr 2007, 10:13 am   #7 (permalink)
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"dbu.," <question*mark@einp.com> wrote in message
news:question*mark-9F84BF.07582223042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <yQ1Xh.2080$nR1.403@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000@news.readfreenews.net...
>> > dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:
>> >
>> >> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200
>> >> 70421 01385_pf.html>
>> >>
>> >> And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of
>> >> this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a
>> >> part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the
>> >> earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth
>> >> investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest
>> >> conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a
>> >> limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in
>> >> any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of
>> >> his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough
>> >> people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom
>> >> visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could
>> >> be required."
>> >
>> > The only way one square of toilet paper would work is if people washed
>> > themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper.
>> > Then we would be using excessive water of course.

>>
>> There are things that do this, called bidets. You can also get a bidet
>> attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the
>> pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets
>> are
>> less practical.
>>
>> > These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general
>> > population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she
>> > rations toilet paper within her own home.

>>
>> Her rations wouldn't work very well. For example, the paper saved would
>> be
>> offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for
>> taking more frequent showers.
>>
>> More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding
>> it
>> when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and
>> using the appropriate amount of paper for the job.
>>
>> Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although
>> the
>> increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids
>> the
>> back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and
>> improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes.
>> I
>> wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet
>> paper,
>> I would never need to buy toilet paper again.
>>
>> Jeff

>
> I got a better idea. Just use your bare hands and then wipe THEM on
> your paints,


Oil based or water based paints?

> then in a week or so wash your paints in the creek.


Must be water based, then.

> Saves
> paper, water and soap. You will be green with envy from your friends
> and co-workers. They will say, you dirty dog, why didn't we come up
> with that idea. You will be doing your part to save the earth.


I never suggested that we shouldn't use toilet paper, only that we should
not waste it.

Jeff

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Old 23 Apr 2007, 11:43 am   #8 (permalink)
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In article <S93Xh.2558$Rd.2084@trndny08>, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> "dbu.," <question*mark@einp.com> wrote in message
> news:question*mark-9F84BF.07582223042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <yQ1Xh.2080$nR1.403@trnddc06>, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000@news.readfreenews.net...
> >> > dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/04/21/AR200
> >> >> 70421 01385_pf.html>
> >> >>
> >> >> And the Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/29qmc5
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Crow (4/19, Springfield, Tenn.): I have spent the better part of
> >> >> this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a
> >> >> part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the
> >> >> earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth
> >> >> investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest
> >> >> conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a
> >> >> limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in
> >> >> any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of
> >> >> his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough
> >> >> people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom
> >> >> visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could
> >> >> be required."
> >> >
> >> > The only way one square of toilet paper would work is if people washed
> >> > themselves with water first then tried to dry up with the toilet paper.
> >> > Then we would be using excessive water of course.
> >>
> >> There are things that do this, called bidets. You can also get a bidet
> >> attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the
> >> pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets
> >> are
> >> less practical.
> >>
> >> > These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general
> >> > population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she
> >> > rations toilet paper within her own home.
> >>
> >> Her rations wouldn't work very well. For example, the paper saved would
> >> be
> >> offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for
> >> taking more frequent showers.
> >>
> >> More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding
> >> it
> >> when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and
> >> using the appropriate amount of paper for the job.
> >>
> >> Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although
> >> the
> >> increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving kids
> >> the
> >> back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper, and
> >> improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing taxes.
> >> I
> >> wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on toilet
> >> paper,
> >> I would never need to buy toilet paper again.
> >>
> >> Jeff

> >
> > I got a better idea. Just use your bare hands and then wipe THEM on
> > your paints,

>
> Oil based or water based paints?


You got me. PANTS like what you wear.

>
> > then in a week or so wash your paints in the creek.

>
> Must be water based, then.
>
> > Saves
> > paper, water and soap. You will be green with envy from your friends
> > and co-workers. They will say, you dirty dog, why didn't we come up
> > with that idea. You will be doing your part to save the earth.

>
> I never suggested that we shouldn't use toilet paper, only that we should
> not waste it.
>
> Jeff
>
> > --
> >

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Old 23 Apr 2007, 12:58 pm   #9 (permalink)
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We just love you kooks to keep posting. You forgot about switching to
plastic bags to save tons of paper. Not to worry, people are so fed up with
all of the liberal newspapers that the circulation of every one of them is
in the toilet. Soon most will be bankrupt and millions of tons of paper
will no longer be produced.. The Earth will be saved from man. LOL

mike


"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>

Then we would be using excessive water of course.
>
> There are things that do this, called bidets. You can also get a bidet
> attachment for toilets. Unfortunately, this doesn't much good for all the
> pooping that goes in offices, schools and public facilities where bidets
> are less practical.
>
>> These kooks are always trying to impose rules upon the general
>> population that they are never bound to themselves. I wonder if she
>> rations toilet paper within her own home.

>
> Her rations wouldn't work very well. For example, the paper saved would be
> offset by increased usage of bleach for cleaning underwear or water for
> taking more frequent showers.
>
> More practical would be learning to use less toilet paper, like folding it
> when using it so that the newly colored portions are folding inside and
> using the appropriate amount of paper for the job.
>
> Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home (although
> the increased wash load might offset any environmental savings), giving
> kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on instead of clean paper,
> and improving the tax system so that far less paper is used in filing
> taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the junk mail were printed on
> toilet paper, I would never need to buy toilet paper again.
>
> Jeff
>
>> --
>> "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much
>> trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy

>



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Old 23 Apr 2007, 12:58 pm   #10 (permalink)
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:11:14 +0000, Jeff wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku ハチγƒ*γ‚―" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:Q_1Xh.3091$Zm.393@trndny03...
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:42:06 +0000, Jeff wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xn0f5agxf240lv9000@news.readfreenews.net...
>>>> dbu.,, 4/23/2007,5:52:27 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This stuff keeps getting better and better, LOL

>>
>>
>>> Other ways of saving paper include using cloth napkins at home
>>> (although the increased wash load might offset any environmental
>>> savings), giving kids the back sides of paper to draw or write on
>>> instead of clean paper, and improving the tax system so that far less
>>> paper is used in filing taxes. I wish we could stop junk mail. If the
>>> junk mail were printed on toilet paper, I would never need to buy
>>> toilet paper again.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is too much
>>>> trouble to put makeup on two faces." ~ Maureen Murphy

>>
>>
>> Who gives a fart about TP? Most of it is made from recycled paper
>> anyway! That's what I mean about Greenies: they don't investigate
>> anything before they open their mouths!

>
> Let's assume for the moment that toilet paper is made of recycled paper.
> The paper has to be processed, which requires energy to transport the
> paper to the toilet paper plant, the paper has to remade and bleached,
> packaged, and trucked to the store, and then taken home, and the used
> toilet paper ends up in sewer plants, which also use energy. Packaging the
> paper also uses plastic. So, even if toilet paper is 100% recycled, there
> are still significant environmental costs that can be reduced by using
> less toilet paper.
>
> Most of the fiber in toilet paper is not from recycled paper:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12318915/ &
> http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Toilet-Paper.html
>
> Jeff


I could just dig a hole in my backyard and $h!t there, too.
But, outhouses are illegal in Mass. So I guess I'll just keep using
recycled TP.

ALL the TP I buy says at least 70% recycled content. I believe the
original post mentioned saving trees and generating oxygen.

There's a funny thing about trees: you can always plant more. If every
time you cut a tree you planted another, then the reduction in the amount
of trees would be Zero. Of course, if every time you cut a tree you
planted TWO, then there would be a net GAIN.

Another thing the Greenies can't seem to understand.

And, you can make paper from a lot of things other than trees. Cotton is a
good source of pulp, onion skins, rags and hemp to name a few. Of course,
I wouldn't want to be wiping my delicate bum with Onion Skin or cotton
paper, but I think you get the idea.

Greenies can't seem to think past the moment. For all the gum flapping
they do about the 'future', they don't seem to think about it too much.



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