Gas Filler Door Release Problem '95 Camry Sedan

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Old 08 Jan 2009, 06:22 pm   #1 (permalink)
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On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
> The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening. It
> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one to
> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
> open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.
>
> So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
> possible? Thanks in advance.



I've heard a $1 or $2 replacement door spring (dealership part) can
fix it... I tried magnets, but they weren't necessary because in my
case ('99 Camry) a key pries my gas door open just fine, no need to
pull the lever.

Michael
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Old 08 Jan 2009, 07:08 pm   #2 (permalink)
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The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening. It
didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one to
try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.

So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
possible? Thanks in advance.
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Old 08 Jan 2009, 08:14 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On Jan 8, 7:22*pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>
> > * * The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening.. It
> > didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one to
> > try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
> > With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
> > open with gentle pressure from a *screwdriver.

>
> > * * So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
> > even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
> > possible? Thanks in advance.

>
> I've heard a $1 or $2 replacement door spring (dealership part) can
> fix it... I tried magnets, but they weren't necessary because in my
> case ('99 Camry) a key pries my gas door open just fine, no need to
> pull the lever.
>
> Michael


Similar problem on my 99 camry last year --being the adept mechanical
genius that I am I managed to pretty much **** up the door for good.
When I succumbed to taking it to be repaired the guy said who the hell
went at this with a pry bar? Guilty your honour, but I got the sucker
open. It is sprung a bit now and does seal flat against the side
panel. Anyone wishing doofuss lessons please reply and I will gladly
tell you how to do something yourself.
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Old 08 Jan 2009, 11:29 pm   #4 (permalink)
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mikewestvale wrote:
> On Jan 8, 7:22 pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening. It
>>> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one to
>>> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
>>> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
>>> open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.
>>> So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
>>> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
>>> possible? Thanks in advance.

>> I've heard a $1 or $2 replacement door spring (dealership part) can
>> fix it... I tried magnets, but they weren't necessary because in my
>> case ('99 Camry) a key pries my gas door open just fine, no need to
>> pull the lever.
>>
>> Michael

>
> Similar problem on my 99 camry last year --being the adept mechanical
> genius that I am I managed to pretty much **** up the door for good.
> When I succumbed to taking it to be repaired the guy said who the hell
> went at this with a pry bar? Guilty your honour, but I got the sucker
> open. It is sprung a bit now and does seal flat against the side
> panel. Anyone wishing doofuss lessons please reply and I will gladly
> tell you how to do something yourself.



Hmm, I think I'd rather fix it first, thanks. ;-) Where is the
spring, and if that's all it is, why doesn't the door just open with a
slight pry? It acted as though the mechanism weren't disengaged.
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Old 09 Jan 2009, 01:33 am   #5 (permalink)
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"Leftie" <No@Thanks.net> wrote in message
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> mikewestvale wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 7:22 pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening. It
>>>> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one
>>>> to
>>>> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
>>>> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
>>>> open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.
>>>> So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
>>>> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
>>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
>>> I've heard a $1 or $2 replacement door spring (dealership part) can
>>> fix it... I tried magnets, but they weren't necessary because in my
>>> case ('99 Camry) a key pries my gas door open just fine, no need to
>>> pull the lever.
>>>
>>> Michael

>>
>> Similar problem on my 99 camry last year --being the adept mechanical
>> genius that I am I managed to pretty much **** up the door for good.
>> When I succumbed to taking it to be repaired the guy said who the hell
>> went at this with a pry bar? Guilty your honour, but I got the sucker
>> open. It is sprung a bit now and does seal flat against the side
>> panel. Anyone wishing doofuss lessons please reply and I will gladly
>> tell you how to do something yourself.

>
>
> Hmm, I think I'd rather fix it first, thanks. ;-) Where is the spring,
> and if that's all it is, why doesn't the door just open with a slight pry?
> It acted as though the mechanism weren't disengaged.


It's possible that the little plastic knob isn't retracting. This problem
gets much worse as the temperature drops below freezing.
I had to spray it with de-icer and put a light bulb near it. Not to worry,
the gas cap is always on tightly.




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Old 09 Jan 2009, 05:57 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Sharx35 wrote:
>
>
> "Leftie" <No@Thanks.net> wrote in message
> news:MoA9l.447$1k1.100@newsfe14.iad...
>> mikewestvale wrote:
>>> On Jan 8, 7:22 pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The filler door refused to open at the gas station this
>>>>> evening. It
>>>>> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no
>>>>> one to
>>>>> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
>>>>> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to
>>>>> pop
>>>>> open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.
>>>>> So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop
>>>>> open
>>>>> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
>>>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>> I've heard a $1 or $2 replacement door spring (dealership part) can
>>>> fix it... I tried magnets, but they weren't necessary because in my
>>>> case ('99 Camry) a key pries my gas door open just fine, no need to
>>>> pull the lever.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Similar problem on my 99 camry last year --being the adept mechanical
>>> genius that I am I managed to pretty much **** up the door for good.
>>> When I succumbed to taking it to be repaired the guy said who the hell
>>> went at this with a pry bar? Guilty your honour, but I got the sucker
>>> open. It is sprung a bit now and does seal flat against the side
>>> panel. Anyone wishing doofuss lessons please reply and I will gladly
>>> tell you how to do something yourself.

>>
>>
>> Hmm, I think I'd rather fix it first, thanks. ;-) Where is the
>> spring, and if that's all it is, why doesn't the door just open with a
>> slight pry? It acted as though the mechanism weren't disengaged.

>
> It's possible that the little plastic knob isn't retracting. This
> problem gets much worse as the temperature drops below freezing.
> I had to spray it with de-icer and put a light bulb near it. Not to
> worry, the gas cap is always on tightly.
>
>
>
>

You mean a little plastic knob inside the filler door? If so I'll
de-ice it when I open it again. If the knob is elsewhere, please
explain. Thanks.
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Old 09 Jan 2009, 06:55 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Most likely the metal door spring.

At the door hinge you should be able to see the little flat metal
spring with some part(s) of it cracked off. A few bucks at the dealer.
Pop it off with a small flat screwdriver and clip the new one on
there. Fixed.


On Jan 8, 5:08*pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
> * * The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening. It
> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one to
> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
> open with gentle pressure from a *screwdriver.
>
> * * So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
> possible? Thanks in advance.


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Old 09 Jan 2009, 08:42 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"Leftie" <No@Thanks.net> wrote in message
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> Sharx35 wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Leftie" <No@Thanks.net> wrote in message
>> news:MoA9l.447$1k1.100@newsfe14.iad...
>>> mikewestvale wrote:
>>>> On Jan 8, 7:22 pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
>>>>>> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to
>>>>>> pop
>>>>>> open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.
>>>>>> So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
>>>>>> possible? Thanks in advance.
>>>>> I've heard a $1 or $2 replacement door spring (dealership part) can
>>>>> fix it... I tried magnets, but they weren't necessary because in my
>>>>> case ('99 Camry) a key pries my gas door open just fine, no need to
>>>>> pull the lever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> Similar problem on my 99 camry last year --being the adept mechanical
>>>> genius that I am I managed to pretty much **** up the door for good.
>>>> When I succumbed to taking it to be repaired the guy said who the hell
>>>> went at this with a pry bar? Guilty your honour, but I got the sucker
>>>> open. It is sprung a bit now and does seal flat against the side
>>>> panel. Anyone wishing doofuss lessons please reply and I will gladly
>>>> tell you how to do something yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm, I think I'd rather fix it first, thanks. ;-) Where is the
>>> spring, and if that's all it is, why doesn't the door just open with a
>>> slight pry? It acted as though the mechanism weren't disengaged.

>>
>> It's possible that the little plastic knob isn't retracting. This problem
>> gets much worse as the temperature drops below freezing.
>> I had to spray it with de-icer and put a light bulb near it. Not to
>> worry, the gas cap is always on tightly.
>>
>>
>>
>>

> You mean a little plastic knob inside the filler door? If so I'll
> de-ice it when I open it again. If the knob is elsewhere, please explain.
> Thanks.


That's the one. On the side of fuel door opening opposite that of the hinge.
This is the knob
that is supposed to retract when one pulls the fuel door release lever by
driver's seat. Once retracted,
the pressure of the spring on the door is *supposed* to cause it to open.
Now, sometimes the little knob is so
frozen that simply deicing it wasn't enough--I had to position an emergency
light right by it so that the heat from the light would complete
the de-icing process. After that it was good for the rest of last winter. So
far this year it's okay. Poor engineering I say--the little knob
AND the spring in the hinge should BOTH be much stronger.




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Old 09 Jan 2009, 08:45 pm   #9 (permalink)
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<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Most likely the metal door spring.
>
> At the door hinge you should be able to see the little flat metal
> spring with some part(s) of it cracked off. A few bucks at the dealer.
> Pop it off with a small flat screwdriver and clip the new one on
> there. Fixed.


Then there is the oft associated problem--a retracted black plastic button
that won't
release from its retracted position. This prevents the locking of the fuel
door. Usually de-icer will fix this, combined with the heat from
an incandescent trouble light.


>
>
> On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>> The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening. It
>> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one to
>> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
>> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
>> open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.
>>
>> So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
>> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
>> possible? Thanks in advance.

>

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Old 11 Jan 2009, 12:49 am   #10 (permalink)
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johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
> Most likely the metal door spring.
>
> At the door hinge you should be able to see the little flat metal
> spring with some part(s) of it cracked off. A few bucks at the dealer.
> Pop it off with a small flat screwdriver and clip the new one on
> there. Fixed.
>
>
> On Jan 8, 5:08 pm, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>> The filler door refused to open at the gas station this evening. It
>> didn't feel stuck or as if the cable was broken, and there was no one to
>> try the two person approach, so I had to go home without filling up.
>> With a helper holding the release up, I was able to get the door to pop
>> open with gentle pressure from a screwdriver.
>>
>> So...stretched cable, broken cable (assuming the door will pop open
>> even if not released) or something else? How do I adjust it, if
>> possible? Thanks in advance.

>



Thanks. I'll check it out when the weather becomes tolerable again.
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