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Old 27 Jan 2009, 11:34 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default Motorcraft oil filters

I went to Motorcraft's website, and it seems that they only support
Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars.
http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do?from=page

Which filters will fit a 4-cylinder Camry?

I think I'll try using a slightly larger 2.4L filter in my '96 Camry
(2.2L 5S-FE engine) next time.

Is the FL-400S (readily available at Wal-Mart) the same as an FL-400A
(hard to find at Wal-Mart)?

Thanks,

Michael

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Old 27 Jan 2009, 12:41 pm   #2 (permalink)
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<mrdarrett@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9c764a92-b9f0-440e-8663-d63f69205fb1@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>I went to Motorcraft's website, and it seems that they only support
> Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars.
> http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do?from=page
>
> Which filters will fit a 4-cylinder Camry?
>
> I think I'll try using a slightly larger 2.4L filter in my '96 Camry
> (2.2L 5S-FE engine) next time.
>
> Is the FL-400S (readily available at Wal-Mart) the same as an
> FL-400A
> (hard to find at Wal-Mart)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael


The 400S is an "improved" 400A. It included a silicone anti-drainback
valve.

Try http://www.fordinstallersupport.com/...gs/filters.pdf

I think you probably want a Motorcraft FL 836 Filter.

As weird as it sounds, I think you'll have your best luck using the
Fram parts look-up to figure out the Motorcraft Filter equivalent for
an application
(http://www.power-21.com/FramPower21i...ation.aspx?b=F)

I recommend you just stick with the correct Toyota Oil Filter for your
application.

Ed

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Old 27 Jan 2009, 03:30 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Motorcraft oil filters

<mrdarrett@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9c764a92-b9f0-440e-8663-d63f69205fb1@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> I went to Motorcraft's website, and it seems that they only support
> Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars.
> http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do?from=page
>
> Which filters will fit a 4-cylinder Camry?
>
> I think I'll try using a slightly larger 2.4L filter in my '96 Camry
> (2.2L 5S-FE engine) next time.
>
> Is the FL-400S (readily available at Wal-Mart) the same as an FL-400A
> (hard to find at Wal-Mart)?


And what would be the main purpose of using different filter?
Is there something wrong with original filter?

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Old 27 Jan 2009, 03:54 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Jan 27, 1:30*pm, "Pszemol" <Psze...@PolBox.com> wrote:
> <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:9c764a92-b9f0-440e-8663-d63f69205fb1@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I went to Motorcraft's website, and it seems that they only support
> > Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars.
> >http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do?from=page

>
> > Which filters will fit a 4-cylinder Camry?

>
> > I think I'll try using a slightly larger 2.4L filter in my '96 Camry
> > (2.2L 5S-FE engine) next time.

>
> > Is the FL-400S (readily available at Wal-Mart) the same as an FL-400A
> > (hard to find at Wal-Mart)?

>
> And what would be the main purpose of using different filter?
> Is there something wrong with original filter?



Increased filtration area, is all...

Michael
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Old 27 Jan 2009, 06:33 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Jan 27, 4:54*pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 27, 1:30*pm, "Pszemol" <Psze...@PolBox.com> wrote:
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> > <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> >news:9c764a92-b9f0-440e-8663-d63f69205fb1@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

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> > > I went to Motorcraft's website, and it seems that they only support
> > > Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars.
> > >http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do?from=page

>
> > > Which filters will fit a 4-cylinder Camry?

>
> > > I think I'll try using a slightly larger 2.4L filter in my '96 Camry
> > > (2.2L 5S-FE engine) next time.

>
> > > Is the FL-400S (readily available at Wal-Mart) the same as an FL-400A
> > > (hard to find at Wal-Mart)?

>
> > And what would be the main purpose of using different filter?
> > Is there something wrong with original filter?

>
> Increased filtration area, is all...
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> Michael- Hide quoted text -
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Purolator or PurOne?
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Old 27 Jan 2009, 08:14 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Until 1987 the 3SFE still uses the larger oil filter, such as Fram
PH2951. In 1988 and later the 3SFE got the smaller
PH4967. I'm using Fram as an example because others have already
crossed the older, larger filter to the smaller one used today, as in
the 5SFE. No Fram oil filters for me, but their PCV valves and ATF
kit work very well.

When the 2.4L 2AZFE came out, a longer version of the 2.2L oil filter
was introduced. This is the PH4386 or Bosch 3311. There are folks in
TN who know about and use the FL-400-S too ("89 Ford Aerostar V6
3.0L"):
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=32300

I would be more comfortable installing the Motorcraft FL400-S (right,
the -A was superceded by -S, my bad) on the V6 that uses the Toyota
FO-8 (?). Both the Motorcraft and FO-8, at least one time, were made
by Purolator, which was later bought by Bosch.

The smaller Toyota 4-cyl filters are made in southeast Asia. Shipped
across the Pacific, trucked around the country, sold at a coupon
discount and still made more money than a domestically sourced part.
You can't buy quality toilet paper that cheaply can you? (Are you
using imported quality toilet paper from Asia?)

Some 4-cyl engines suffer from oil draining back to the crankcase
after shutdown. So a larger filter, while giving you more filtration
area, as mentioned in earlier posts, also requires more time to fill.
If you want to go to a larger filter, I would suggest you first begin
with the 2.4L sized one, such as the Purolator PureOne PL14477 (not
the smaller PL14476), or the larger Bosch 3311 (looks like a tall one
from what I can see in the pictures).

Again, you will void any remaining warranty, including those from
filter manufacturers for using other than the specified filter.

On Jan 27, 9:34*am, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> I went to Motorcraft's website, and it seems that they only support
> Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars.http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do?from=page
>
> Which filters will fit a 4-cylinder Camry?
>
> I think I'll try using a slightly larger 2.4L filter in my '96 Camry
> (2.2L 5S-FE engine) next time.
>
> Is the FL-400S (readily available at Wal-Mart) the same as an FL-400A
> (hard to find at Wal-Mart)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael


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Old 27 Jan 2009, 08:23 pm   #7 (permalink)
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See also:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=16788

Now, I wouldn't just plug in a filter that look the same. Be sure to
compare relief pressure, flow rate and thread size. www.wixfilters.com,
under "Filter lookup quick search".

Type in "PL14477", then click on Wix "51396" to see specs. Also
compare to the shorter "PL14476" and click on "51394":


Part Number: 51396
UPC Number: 765809513969
Principal Application: GM Vehicles (99-05), Geo (89-92), Toyota
(88-09), Various Ford-New Holland Tractors, Suzuki (96-09), Suzuki
Marine Engines
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.402
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19


Part Number: 51394
UPC Number: 765809513945
Principal Application: GM (85-09), Daihatsu (88-92), Infiniti
(91-96), Kawasaki Mules, Nissan (91-95), Toyota (80-09), Scion
(04-09), Atlas-Copco, Briggs&Stratton, Cub Cadet, Generac, John Deere,
Kubota, New Holland
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 2.977
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19




On Jan 27, 9:34*am, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> I went to Motorcraft's website, and it seems that they only support
> Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars.http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do?from=page
>
> Which filters will fit a 4-cylinder Camry?
>
> I think I'll try using a slightly larger 2.4L filter in my '96 Camry
> (2.2L 5S-FE engine) next time.
>
> Is the FL-400S (readily available at Wal-Mart) the same as an FL-400A
> (hard to find at Wal-Mart)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael


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Old 27 Jan 2009, 08:32 pm   #8 (permalink)
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These folks are talking about the V6 sized filter:

Dimensionally, FL400S
= PureOne PL20195
= Bosch 3422
= Mobil-1 209
= Fram PH3600

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Yes, there is an oversized filter for the all V6 engines and light
truck (I4) from toyota. If it uses FRAM part number PH3614, then a
PH3600 will fit perfectly if you have enough clearance. Just remember
to add more oil then usual.

I know lots of people hate FRAM Oil filter so,

To find a filter you that will fit your car use 89 Ford Aerostar V6
3.0L
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Old 27 Jan 2009, 08:40 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Motorcraft, PureOne and Bosch Filtech are basically the same filter
with synthetic blend filtration media. There are still some Bosch
filters are there made by the old contractor Champion Labs (who also
makes Mobil-1, but I"m sure to different specs).

The Purolator Premium and the PepBoys Proline are basic paper filters.
Don't buy these.

This is another reason I personally don't want a Toyota filter. I
wonder what kind of crap it's made of:

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/par...e/dsc00376.jpg



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Old 27 Jan 2009, 08:52 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Just some examples of modern filter paper treatment, from 0.5 micron
meter nano-fiber to multidensity meltblown surfacing. Hengst are used
on luxury cars such as the Audi S4 and Mercedes A class. So don't just
pure in Mobil-1 and claim "extended drain interval" without a properly
designed filtration system:

http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubr...ter_Mediums_EN

http://www.hengst.de/conpresso/_rubr...ystems__Oil_EN
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