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Old 16 Feb 2009, 11:09 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises coming from
the front of the car. I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
appreciated.
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Old 17 Feb 2009, 07:26 am   #2 (permalink)
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On Feb 16, 11:09*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
> Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises coming from
> the front of the car. *I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
> or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
> happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
> over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
> suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
> about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
> so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
> appreciated.


Do all 4 for saftey and ride, just call for bids at different shops
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Old 21 Feb 2009, 05:37 pm   #3 (permalink)
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That generation of Camrys (4-cyl) also have weak rear springs. When
the struts go out, you can experience bottoming going over even
smaller bumps/holes. IMO KYB struts are not worth a labor putting them
in.

A strut and a mount, for each corner, is about $140. Add $30-50 labor
per corner. If you have a shop do it, expect $700-800 plus an
alignment afterwards. If the ball joints or lower control arm bushings
are shot, then another $400-500?


From my other post on 99 defective strut mounts:

For that generation of Camrys the front strut mounts are defective (if
the noise aren't from struts and ball joints). The next generation the
rear strut mounts are defective.

People have complained that the aftermarket KYB mounts look real
cheap, like old mounts painted over (google). I personally would go
with Spicer Professional series. Spicer is a Tier-1 supplier. In the
tuner circle, KYB means "Keep Your Bilsteins". I'd stay away from KYB.

The only thing I don't like about the Monroe Quickstrut is the
SensaTrac strut they used. These older designs have a groove cut into
the piston rod (who came up with this kind of design?) and are being
slowly phased out in favor of the new Reflex. For this reason I would
go with Gabriel Ultra at Autozone (they also carry the Bilstein for
other cars), with 9 stages of inertia sensitive valving. It's good for
typical driving.

See how Gabriel hinted at the cheap SensaTrac "position sensitive"
design, heeheehee:
http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm



On Feb 16, 9:09*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
> Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises coming from
> the front of the car. *I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
> or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
> happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
> over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
> suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
> about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
> so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
> appreciated.


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Old 25 Feb 2009, 08:25 am   #4 (permalink)
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On Feb 21, 7:37*pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> That generation of Camrys (4-cyl) also have weak rear springs. When
> the struts go out, you can experience bottoming going over even
> smaller bumps/holes. IMO KYB struts are not worth a labor putting them
> in.
>
> A strut and a mount, for each corner, is about $140. Add $30-50 labor
> per corner. If you have a shop do it, expect $700-800 plus an
> alignment afterwards. If the ball joints or lower control arm bushings
> are shot, then another $400-500?
>
> From my other post on 99 defective strut mounts:
>
> For that generation of Camrys the front strut mounts are defective (if
> the noise aren't from struts and ball joints). The next generation the
> rear strut mounts are defective.
>
> People have complained that the aftermarket KYB mounts look real
> cheap, like old mounts painted over (google). I personally would go
> with Spicer Professional series. Spicer is a Tier-1 supplier. In the
> tuner circle, KYB means "Keep Your Bilsteins". I'd stay away from KYB.
>
> The only thing I don't like about the Monroe Quickstrut is the
> SensaTrac strut they used. These older designs have a groove cut into
> the piston rod (who came up with this kind of design?) and are being
> slowly phased out in favor of the new Reflex. For this reason I would
> go with Gabriel Ultra at Autozone (they also carry the Bilstein for
> other cars), with 9 stages of inertia sensitive valving. It's good for
> typical driving.
>
> See how Gabriel hinted at the cheap SensaTrac "position sensitive"
> design, heeheehee:http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm
>
> On Feb 16, 9:09*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises coming from
> > the front of the car. *I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
> > or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
> > happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
> > over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
> > suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
> > about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
> > so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
> > appreciated.


I took the car to my toyota dealer and had them look at it. After an
hour and a thorough inspection on the vehicle they tell me that it
needs four new struts 1 rear strut mount (Boot is torn) and rear sway
bar bushings. I said ok, how much is it gonna cost to fix? They drop a
1500 dollar bill (cdn) on my lap. I think that quote is rediculous,
but i have never had a problem like this before. Does anyone know if
this is reasonable, or blown way out of proportion.
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Old 25 Feb 2009, 10:01 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Feb 25, 9:25*am, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 21, 7:37*pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > That generation of Camrys (4-cyl) also have weak rear springs. When
> > the struts go out, you can experience bottoming going over even
> > smaller bumps/holes. IMO KYB struts are not worth a labor putting them
> > in.

>
> > A strut and a mount, for each corner, is about $140. Add $30-50 labor
> > per corner. If you have a shop do it, expect $700-800 plus an
> > alignment afterwards. If the ball joints or lower control arm bushings
> > are shot, then another $400-500?

>
> > From my other post on 99 defective strut mounts:

>
> > For that generation of Camrys the front strut mounts are defective (if
> > the noise aren't from struts and ball joints). The next generation the
> > rear strut mounts are defective.

>
> > People have complained that the aftermarket KYB mounts look real
> > cheap, like old mounts painted over (google). I personally would go
> > with Spicer Professional series. Spicer is a Tier-1 supplier. In the
> > tuner circle, KYB means "Keep Your Bilsteins". I'd stay away from KYB.

>
> > The only thing I don't like about the Monroe Quickstrut is the
> > SensaTrac strut they used. These older designs have a groove cut into
> > the piston rod (who came up with this kind of design?) and are being
> > slowly phased out in favor of the new Reflex. For this reason I would
> > go with Gabriel Ultra at Autozone (they also carry the Bilstein for
> > other cars), with 9 stages of inertia sensitive valving. It's good for
> > typical driving.

>
> > See how Gabriel hinted at the cheap SensaTrac "position sensitive"
> > design, heeheehee:http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm

>
> > On Feb 16, 9:09*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> > > Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises coming from
> > > the front of the car. *I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
> > > or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
> > > happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
> > > over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
> > > suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
> > > about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
> > > so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
> > > appreciated.

>
> I took the car to my toyota dealer and had them look at it. After an
> hour and a thorough inspection on the vehicle they tell me that it
> needs four new struts 1 rear strut mount (Boot is torn) and rear sway
> bar bushings. I said ok, how much is it gonna cost to fix? They drop a
> 1500 dollar bill (cdn) on my lap. I think that quote is rediculous,
> but i have never had a problem like this before. Does anyone know if
> this is reasonable, or blown way out of proportion.


You didn't stipulate the year of your camry so its tough to say how
much you want to spend but You could do better by 25 to 30 % by going
to a non dealer garage or specialty shop. I have work like that done
by an excellent two bay mechanic and I know he is honest in his
pricing and suggestions.

You pretty much need to cultivate a good independant or someone like
that if you want to run a car to high mileages as the "dollarships"
will keep you broke.
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 12:00 am   #6 (permalink)
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I'd be careful with that quote and description. At least in the US
(maybe all North America, including Canada), Toyota has the following
Technical Service Bulletin, valid for 2000 Camrys (VIN range may
differ):

Date: 01/21/2000
Component Name: 020000 SUSPENSION
NHTSA #: SU00100
SUMMARY: SUBJECT REGARDING FRONT SUSPENSION SUPPORT NOISE. *TT

A bad mount then takes out the strut, and it will make noises too. The
rubber spring seats can have holes from slight spring movements when
mounts fail. So basically what I'm saying is that you'll likely have
to replace the mounts, struts, upper and/or lower rubber spring seats,
and maybe the strut bearings (you maybe able to repack it, I do with
Redline CV-2 synthetic grease).

Some owners find Monroe's QuickStrut (QS) a cheaper alternative.
However, I prefer the Gabriel Ultra struts over the SensaTrac used in
the QS. But buying parts separately will cost more. You can buy Spicer
Professional Grade mounts, no KYBs for me. Check www.rockauto.com for
price references.

http://www.monroe.com/products/quickstrut.asp
http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm

On Feb 25, 6:25*am, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
> I took the car to my toyota dealer and had them look at it. After an
> hour and a thorough inspection on the vehicle they tell me that it
> needs four new struts 1 rear strut mount (Boot is torn) and rear sway
> bar bushings. I said ok, how much is it gonna cost to fix? They drop a
> 1500 dollar bill (cdn) on my lap. I think that quote is rediculous,
> but i have never had a problem like this before. Does anyone know if
> this is reasonable, or blown way out of proportion.


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Old 26 Feb 2009, 12:13 am   #7 (permalink)
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$1500 CDN is about $1200 USD according to yahoo.com. For four struts
and installation that's way too steep.

Camry struts alone are about $60-80 USD these days. Gabriel Ultras and
most aftermarkets carry a lifetime warranty. Each corner is about
$30-50 USD to install. Plus an alignment afterward. All four corners
for your should be about $360-520 USD or $450-650 CDN, for strut
replacements only. But like I said, you'll likely need more (+ mounts,
maybe rubber seats, bearings, Bumpers are usually still good).

Front Monroe Quick-Struts are about $205 USD, the rears about $170
USD. The cheaper 4-cyl versions ($161) have cheap springs that I'd
avoid. I'd get the V6 version with stronger rear springs.

So let me put it this way: How much did the dealer ask for? HA HA HA
HA HA

On Feb 25, 6:25*am, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
> I took the car to my toyota dealer and had them look at it. After an
> hour and a thorough inspection on the vehicle they tell me that it
> needs four new struts 1 rear strut mount (Boot is torn) and rear sway
> bar bushings. I said ok, how much is it gonna cost to fix? They drop a
> 1500 dollar bill (cdn) on my lap. I think that quote is rediculous,
> but i have never had a problem like this before. Does anyone know if
> this is reasonable, or blown way out of proportion.


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Old 26 Feb 2009, 12:26 am   #8 (permalink)
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As you can see, if you add the mounts in addition to struts the price
(all in USD, rockauto.com) goes up further (especially at the dealer).
That's why some would just go with Monroe's QuickStrut.

Spicer rear mount w/ bellow 5201312 $39.79 x2
Spicer front right mount w/ bearing 5201264 $42.79
Spicer front left mount w/ bearing 5201265 $42.79
Spicer rear stabilizer bar bushings 5501334 $10.63

Check condition of lower front rubber spring seats (~$15 x2) and strut
bumper (~$12 x2). Replace if necessary.


On Feb 25, 6:25*am, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 21, 7:37*pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > That generation of Camrys (4-cyl) also have weak rear springs. When
> > the struts go out, you can experience bottoming going over even
> > smaller bumps/holes. IMO KYB struts are not worth a labor putting them
> > in.

>
> > A strut and a mount, for each corner, is about $140. Add $30-50 labor
> > per corner. If you have a shop do it, expect $700-800 plus an
> > alignment afterwards. If the ball joints or lower control arm bushings
> > are shot, then another $400-500?

>
> > From my other post on 99 defective strut mounts:

>
> > For that generation of Camrys the front strut mounts are defective (if
> > the noise aren't from struts and ball joints). The next generation the
> > rear strut mounts are defective.

>
> > People have complained that the aftermarket KYB mounts look real
> > cheap, like old mounts painted over (google). I personally would go
> > with Spicer Professional series. Spicer is a Tier-1 supplier. In the
> > tuner circle, KYB means "Keep Your Bilsteins". I'd stay away from KYB.

>
> > The only thing I don't like about the Monroe Quickstrut is the
> > SensaTrac strut they used. These older designs have a groove cut into
> > the piston rod (who came up with this kind of design?) and are being
> > slowly phased out in favor of the new Reflex. For this reason I would
> > go with Gabriel Ultra at Autozone (they also carry the Bilstein for
> > other cars), with 9 stages of inertia sensitive valving. It's good for
> > typical driving.

>
> > See how Gabriel hinted at the cheap SensaTrac "position sensitive"
> > design, heeheehee:http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm

>
> > On Feb 16, 9:09*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> > > Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises coming from
> > > the front of the car. *I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
> > > or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
> > > happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
> > > over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
> > > suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
> > > about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
> > > so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
> > > appreciated.

>
> I took the car to my toyota dealer and had them look at it. After an
> hour and a thorough inspection on the vehicle they tell me that it
> needs four new struts 1 rear strut mount (Boot is torn) and rear sway
> bar bushings. I said ok, how much is it gonna cost to fix? They drop a
> 1500 dollar bill (cdn) on my lap. I think that quote is rediculous,
> but i have never had a problem like this before. Does anyone know if
> this is reasonable, or blown way out of proportion.


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Old 26 Feb 2009, 03:21 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Feb 26, 12:01*am, mikewestvale <mikewestv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 9:25*am, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 7:37*pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> > > That generation of Camrys (4-cyl) also have weak rear springs. When
> > > the struts go out, you can experience bottoming going over even
> > > smaller bumps/holes. IMO KYB struts are not worth a labor putting them
> > > in.

>
> > > A strut and a mount, for each corner, is about $140. Add $30-50 labor
> > > per corner. If you have a shop do it, expect $700-800 plus an
> > > alignment afterwards. If the ball joints or lower control arm bushings
> > > are shot, then another $400-500?

>
> > > From my other post on 99 defective strut mounts:

>
> > > For that generation of Camrys the front strut mounts are defective (if
> > > the noise aren't from struts and ball joints). The next generation the
> > > rear strut mounts are defective.

>
> > > People have complained that the aftermarket KYB mounts look real
> > > cheap, like old mounts painted over (google). I personally would go
> > > with Spicer Professional series. Spicer is a Tier-1 supplier. In the
> > > tuner circle, KYB means "Keep Your Bilsteins". I'd stay away from KYB..

>
> > > The only thing I don't like about the Monroe Quickstrut is the
> > > SensaTrac strut they used. These older designs have a groove cut into
> > > the piston rod (who came up with this kind of design?) and are being
> > > slowly phased out in favor of the new Reflex. For this reason I would
> > > go with Gabriel Ultra at Autozone (they also carry the Bilstein for
> > > other cars), with 9 stages of inertia sensitive valving. It's good for
> > > typical driving.

>
> > > See how Gabriel hinted at the cheap SensaTrac "position sensitive"
> > > design, heeheehee:http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm

>
> > > On Feb 16, 9:09*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> > > > Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises coming from
> > > > the front of the car. *I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
> > > > or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
> > > > happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
> > > > over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
> > > > suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
> > > > about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
> > > > so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
> > > > appreciated.

>
> > I took the car to my toyota dealer and had them look at it. After an
> > hour and a thorough inspection on the vehicle they tell me that it
> > needs four new struts 1 rear strut mount (Boot is torn) and rear sway
> > bar bushings. I said ok, how much is it gonna cost to fix? They drop a
> > 1500 dollar bill (cdn) on my lap. I think that quote is rediculous,
> > but i have never had a problem like this before. Does anyone know if
> > this is reasonable, or blown way out of proportion.

>
> You didn't stipulate the year of your camry so its tough to say how
> much you want to spend but You could do better by 25 to 30 % by going
> to a non dealer garage or specialty shop. I have work like that done
> by an excellent two bay mechanic and I know he is honest in his
> pricing and suggestions.
>
> You pretty much need to cultivate a good independant or someone like
> that if you want to run a car to high mileages as the "dollarships"
> will keep you broke.


i'm sorry its a 2000 camry LE 4cyl. 2.2 litre
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On Feb 26, 5:21*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 26, 12:01*am, mikewestvale <mikewestv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 9:25*am, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> > > On Feb 21, 7:37*pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> > > > That generation of Camrys (4-cyl) also have weak rear springs. When
> > > > the struts go out, you can experience bottoming going over even
> > > > smaller bumps/holes. IMO KYB struts are not worth a labor putting them
> > > > in.

>
> > > > A strut and a mount, for each corner, is about $140. Add $30-50 labor
> > > > per corner. If you have a shop do it, expect $700-800 plus an
> > > > alignment afterwards. If the ball joints or lower control arm bushings
> > > > are shot, then another $400-500?

>
> > > > From my other post on 99 defective strut mounts:

>
> > > > For that generation of Camrys the front strut mounts are defective (if
> > > > the noise aren't from struts and ball joints). The next generation the
> > > > rear strut mounts are defective.

>
> > > > People have complained that the aftermarket KYB mounts look real
> > > > cheap, like old mounts painted over (google). I personally would go
> > > > with Spicer Professional series. Spicer is a Tier-1 supplier. In the
> > > > tuner circle, KYB means "Keep Your Bilsteins". I'd stay away from KYB.

>
> > > > The only thing I don't like about the Monroe Quickstrut is the
> > > > SensaTrac strut they used. These older designs have a groove cut into
> > > > the piston rod (who came up with this kind of design?) and are being
> > > > slowly phased out in favor of the new Reflex. For this reason I would
> > > > go with Gabriel Ultra at Autozone (they also carry the Bilstein for
> > > > other cars), with 9 stages of inertia sensitive valving. It's good for
> > > > typical driving.

>
> > > > See how Gabriel hinted at the cheap SensaTrac "position sensitive"
> > > > design, heeheehee:http://www.gabriel.com/gforce1/eng/default.htm

>
> > > > On Feb 16, 9:09*pm, anthonyza...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> > > > > Recently as I drive the car, I notice some rattling noises comingfrom
> > > > > the front of the car. *I'm not sure if it is in my suspension assembly
> > > > > or just some other part knocking around in there. It only seems to
> > > > > happen when I go over medium size bumps and larger. Also when I go
> > > > > over large dips in the road, the car seems to almost bottom out. I
> > > > > suspect the rear struts need to be replaced, but I dread thinking
> > > > > about the cost. Has anyone out there had a job like this done, and if
> > > > > so, How much did it cost to repair? any help would be greatly
> > > > > appreciated.

>
> > > I took the car to my toyota dealer and had them look at it. After an
> > > hour and a thorough inspection on the vehicle they tell me that it
> > > needs four new struts 1 rear strut mount (Boot is torn) and rear sway
> > > bar bushings. I said ok, how much is it gonna cost to fix? They drop a
> > > 1500 dollar bill (cdn) on my lap. I think that quote is rediculous,
> > > but i have never had a problem like this before. Does anyone know if
> > > this is reasonable, or blown way out of proportion.

>
> > You didn't stipulate the year of your camry so its tough to say how
> > much you want to spend but You could do better by 25 to 30 % by going
> > to a non dealer garage or specialty shop. I have work like that done
> > by an excellent two bay mechanic and I know he is honest in his
> > pricing and suggestions.

>
> > You pretty much need to cultivate a good independant or someone like
> > that if you want to run a car to high mileages as the "dollarships"
> > will keep you broke.

>
> i'm sorry its a 2000 camry LE 4cyl. 2.2 litre


The dealer told me that all of the Strut mounts were still good except
for the rear passenger one. They told me that the "boot?" was torn and
therefore I need to replace my whole strut mount. htey broke
everything down as follows: each strut is about 200 bucks plus the
mount which was 200 bucks. Then the rear stabilizer bar bushings
another 50 bucks plus labor 500 bucks. I asked around about other
struts and unless you get them installed by a certified mechanic, then
they aren't covered under the warranty. Same with the Toyota parts. If
they aren't installed by a dealer, then the warranty is void. I really
want to get them to do it, because I like to keep my cars as OEM as
possible, but then sometimes it just can't be helped...
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