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Old 26 Feb 2009, 10:15 am   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started the
engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
parking lot. While I was driving the car back home I found that the
oil check light blinked twice. I reached home and check the oil level
and found that there was no oil in the car. I filled the engine with
the oil and drove the car for three days and checked the level of the
oil every time and it looked good.

I again left the engine idle for three hours last night and came back
home and all the oil was gone and the car's steering wheel was also
felt heavy.

My question is that what is going on.

The Oil does not leak when

1. When it is not idle.
2. when it is idle for half an hour.

But could not found the oil in the car when I left it idle for two or
three hours. I forgot to see the spilled oil in the parking lot. I
will really appreciate any advice.

Thanks

John
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 10:19 am   #2 (permalink)
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On Feb 26, 10:15*am, john <conphil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started the
> engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
> parking lot. While I was driving the car back home I found that the
> oil check light blinked twice. I reached home and check the oil level
> and found that there was no oil in the car. I filled the engine with
> the oil and drove the car for three days and checked the level of the
> oil every time and it looked good.
>
> I again left the engine idle for three hours last night and came back
> home and all the oil was gone and the car's steering wheel was also
> felt heavy.
>
> My question is that what is going on.
>
> The Oil does not leak when
>
> 1. When it is not idle.
> 2. when it is idle for half an hour.
>
> But could not found the oil in the car when I left it idle for two or
> three hours. *I forgot to see the spilled oil in the parking lot. I
> will really appreciate any advice.
>
> Thanks
>
> John


You are supposed to let it ldle forever troller. No I dont believe
this.
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 10:27 am   #3 (permalink)
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On Feb 26, 11:19*am, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 10:15*am, john <conphil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,

>
> > I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started the
> > engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
> > parking lot. While I was driving the car back home I found that the
> > oil check light blinked twice. I reached home and check the oil level
> > and found that there was no oil in the car. I filled the engine with
> > the oil and drove the car for three days and checked the level of the
> > oil every time and it looked good.

>
> > I again left the engine idle for three hours last night and came back
> > home and all the oil was gone and the car's steering wheel was also
> > felt heavy.

>
> > My question is that what is going on.

>
> > The Oil does not leak when

>
> > 1. When it is not idle.
> > 2. when it is idle for half an hour.

>
> > But could not found the oil in the car when I left it idle for two or
> > three hours. *I forgot to see the spilled oil in the parking lot. I
> > will really appreciate any advice.

>
> > Thanks

>
> > John

>
> You are supposed to let it ldle forever troller. No I dont believe
> this.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -


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Old 26 Feb 2009, 10:28 am   #4 (permalink)
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Hi,

It happened. It is true. I can not see any oil leak may be its slow.
But I checked it for three consecutive days and did not find any
leak.


John
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 11:13 am   #5 (permalink)
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I would suspect worn valve guides / valve guide seals, restricted oil
drain holes in the head (possibly due to sludge), and/or a pcv system
that needs attention.

When idling the vaccum in the intake tract is high. If the drain
holes from the head to the block are restricted, you could end up with
a lot of oil in the valve area at the top of the engine. While the
engine is idling for a long period of time a lot of this could be
drawn into the engine via the worn/old/hard valve guides seals. There
would not be any oil on the ground, since it was all burned in the
engine.

Not sure about the heavy steering. It may be that you overheated the
power steering fluid (idling for a long period leads to high underhood
temperaturs).

Here is my advice:

1) Have someone pull the valve cover and make sure the oil drain holes
are not plugged with sludge
2) Don't leave the car idling for long periods
3) Keep a regular cehck on your oil level
4) If you plan to keep the car for a long time, consider having the
valve guides seals replaced. It is common for Toyotas of this age and
mileage to need new valve guide seals. Personally, given the age and
mileage of the vehicle, I'd probably just keep driving while keeping a
regular check on the oil level. You might try one of the "high
mileage" oils offered these days. They supposedly include additives
that will soften and "renew" old hard valve stem seals. You might also
try using syntehtic oil and doing several short interval oil changes
in an attempt to open up any partially blocked drain pasages.

Ed


"john" <conphiloso@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started
> the
> engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
> parking lot. While I was driving the car back home I found that the
> oil check light blinked twice. I reached home and check the oil
> level
> and found that there was no oil in the car. I filled the engine with
> the oil and drove the car for three days and checked the level of
> the
> oil every time and it looked good.
>
> I again left the engine idle for three hours last night and came
> back
> home and all the oil was gone and the car's steering wheel was also
> felt heavy.
>
> My question is that what is going on.
>
> The Oil does not leak when
>
> 1. When it is not idle.
> 2. when it is idle for half an hour.
>
> But could not found the oil in the car when I left it idle for two
> or
> three hours. I forgot to see the spilled oil in the parking lot. I
> will really appreciate any advice.
>
> Thanks
>
> John



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Old 26 Feb 2009, 11:54 am   #6 (permalink)
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On Feb 26, 10:15*am, john <conphil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started the
> engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
> parking lot. While I was driving the car back home I found that the
> oil check light blinked twice. I reached home and check the oil level
> and found that there was no oil in the car. I filled the engine with
> the oil and drove the car for three days and checked the level of the
> oil every time and it looked good.
>
> I again left the engine idle for three hours last night and came back
> home and all the oil was gone and the car's steering wheel was also
> felt heavy.
>
> My question is that what is going on.
>
> The Oil does not leak when
>
> 1. When it is not idle.
> 2. when it is idle for half an hour.
>
> But could not found the oil in the car when I left it idle for two or
> three hours. *I forgot to see the spilled oil in the parking lot. I
> will really appreciate any advice.
>
> Thanks
>
> John


Not a troll, ok, check the cooling system and color of water in the
radiator and expansion tank, if like choclate milk its a head gasket.
Look at exhaust, with that much burning you would have oil dripping
out and smoke like crazy and run like crap as plugs would foul in a
few hundred miles. When you check oil check just after you shut off
and check after 1 hr and before its started the next day, if it goes
up after a few minutes its stuck in the head from clogged oil return
holes. I had a 350 like that and ran a wire doen the holes. If you
realy are loosing it its going somewhere. Dye can be added and a
flourescent light used.
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Old 27 Feb 2009, 01:50 am   #7 (permalink)
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Besides engine sludge and PCV problems, see also using:

http://www.auto-rx.com/


On Feb 26, 8:15*am, john <conphil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started the
> engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
> parking lot. While I was driving the car back home I found that the
> oil check light blinked twice. I reached home and check the oil level
> and found that there was no oil in the car. I filled the engine with
> the oil and drove the car for three days and checked the level of the
> oil every time and it looked good.
>
> I again left the engine idle for three hours last night and came back
> home and all the oil was gone and the car's steering wheel was also
> felt heavy.
>
> My question is that what is going on.
>
> The Oil does not leak when
>
> 1. When it is not idle.
> 2. when it is idle for half an hour.
>
> But could not found the oil in the car when I left it idle for two or
> three hours. *I forgot to see the spilled oil in the parking lot. I
> will really appreciate any advice.
>
> Thanks
>
> John


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Old 27 Feb 2009, 02:17 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Hi,

How much will it cost to replace valve guides seals ?


Thanks
John
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Old 27 Feb 2009, 05:51 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Feb 26, 8:15*am, john <conphil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started the
> engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
> parking lot.



And you left it running at idle in the parking lot for three hours
because...??

Michael
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 05:46 am   #10 (permalink)
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On Feb 27, 5:51*pm, mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 26, 8:15*am, john <conphil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,

>
> > I own a 96 Camry LE ( 4 Doors, 4 cyl. 146, 000 miles ). I Started the
> > engine and left it Idle for about three hours about a week ago in a
> > parking lot.

>
> And you left it running at idle in the parking lot for three hours
> because...??
>
> Michael


3 hrs twice, because a troll.
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