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Old 25 Mar 2009, 05:55 am   #1 (permalink)
Robert McMillan
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Default Aftermarket remote central locking

Hi Guys,
I have a 97 Vienta Touring and the previous owner had lost the remote for
the central locking. I spoke to Toyota about what it would cost to fix and
was quoted $800 for a replacement CIR unit and 2 new remotes and basically
told that I was better off getting an aftermarket unit. This car also has an
"Integrated Security System" from factory but I am not exactly sure what
that includes other than an alarm, anyone know if it has an immobiliser or
how good the system is.

So my questions are,
1) What is the Integrated Security System?
2) What aftermarket remote central locking kit should I be looking at, or
should I be looking at an alarm system and using its remotes? What do they
cost?
3) Is this a job I am likely to be able to do myself or should I go to an
auto electrician if it involves messing around with the security system?

Any help is greatly appreciated and I am in Brisbane, Australia if anyone
has any recommendations on where to get stuff done.

Regards,
Robert

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Old 25 Mar 2009, 06:54 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Aftermarket remote central locking

On Mar 25, 7:55*am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> I have a 97 Vienta Touring and the previous owner had lost the remote for
> the central locking. I spoke to Toyota about what it would cost to fix and
> was quoted $800 for a replacement CIR unit and 2 new remotes and basically
> told that I was better off getting an aftermarket unit. This car also hasan
> "Integrated Security System" from factory but I am not exactly sure what
> that includes other than an alarm, anyone know if it has an immobiliser or
> how good the system is.
>
> So my questions are,
> 1) What is the Integrated Security System?
> 2) What aftermarket remote central locking kit should I be looking at, or
> should I be looking at an alarm system and using its remotes? What do they
> cost?
> 3) Is this a job I am likely to be able to do myself or should I go to an
> auto electrician if it involves messing around with the security system?
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated and I am in Brisbane, Australia if anyone
> has any recommendations on where to get stuff done.
>
> Regards,
> Robert


Hi Robert,
My uncle has a 1998 Camry LE and he to lost both of his
remotes. He took it to Toyota and he was able to buy new remotes and
have them re-programmed for the car. He could still use the stock unit
and didn't have to re-install a new central lock/security system for
the car. He had to pay 80 dollars a FOB, but its a far cry from $800.
He lives in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada, but I would assume that Toyota
systems were the same internationally. But you know what they say
about assuming...
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Old 26 Mar 2009, 04:30 am   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Aftermarket remote central locking

>On Mar 25, 7:55 am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>> I have a 97 Vienta Touring and the previous owner had lost the remote for
>> the central locking. I spoke to Toyota about what it would cost to fix
>> and
>> was quoted $800 for a replacement CIR unit and 2 new remotes and
>> basically
>> told that I was better off getting an aftermarket unit. This car also has
>> an
>> "Integrated Security System" from factory but I am not exactly sure what
>> that includes other than an alarm, anyone know if it has an immobiliser
>> or
>> how good the system is.
>>
>> So my questions are,
>> 1) What is the Integrated Security System?
>> 2) What aftermarket remote central locking kit should I be looking at, or
>> should I be looking at an alarm system and using its remotes? What do
>> they
>> cost?
>> 3) Is this a job I am likely to be able to do myself or should I go to an
>> auto electrician if it involves messing around with the security system?
>>
>> Any help is greatly appreciated and I am in Brisbane, Australia if anyone
>> has any recommendations on where to get stuff done.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robert

>
> Hi Robert,
> My uncle has a 1998 Camry LE and he to lost both of his
> remotes. He took it to Toyota and he was able to buy new remotes and
> have them re-programmed for the car. He could still use the stock unit
> and didn't have to re-install a new central lock/security system for
> the car. He had to pay 80 dollars a FOB, but its a far cry from $800.
> He lives in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada, but I would assume that Toyota
> systems were the same internationally. But you know what they say
> about assuming...


Thanks for that info, I will try ringing up some more dealerships and see if
any of them are able to pull the code off the existing system to program
some new remotes.
Robert

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Old 26 Mar 2009, 06:41 am   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Aftermarket remote central locking

On Mar 26, 5:30*am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 25, 7:55 am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Guys,
> >> I have a 97 Vienta Touring and the previous owner had lost the remote for
> >> the central locking. I spoke to Toyota about what it would cost to fix
> >> and
> >> was quoted $800 for a replacement CIR unit and 2 new remotes and
> >> basically
> >> told that I was better off getting an aftermarket unit. This car also has
> >> an
> >> "Integrated Security System" from factory but I am not exactly sure what
> >> that includes other than an alarm, anyone know if it has an immobiliser
> >> or
> >> how good the system is.

>
> >> So my questions are,
> >> 1) What is the Integrated Security System?
> >> 2) What aftermarket remote central locking kit should I be looking at,or
> >> should I be looking at an alarm system and using its remotes? What do
> >> they
> >> cost?
> >> 3) Is this a job I am likely to be able to do myself or should I go toan
> >> auto electrician if it involves messing around with the security system?

>
> >> Any help is greatly appreciated and I am in Brisbane, Australia if anyone
> >> has any recommendations on where to get stuff done.

>
> >> Regards,
> >> Robert

>
> > Hi Robert,
> > * * * * My uncle has a 1998 Camry LE and he to lost both of his
> > remotes. He took it to Toyota and he was able to buy new remotes and
> > have them re-programmed for the car. He could still use the stock unit
> > and didn't have to re-install a new central lock/security system for
> > the car. He had to pay 80 dollars a FOB, but its a far cry from $800.
> > He lives in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada, but I would assume that Toyota
> > systems were the same internationally. But you know what they say
> > about assuming...

>
> Thanks for that info, I will try ringing up some more dealerships and seeif
> any of them are able to pull the code off the existing system to program
> some new remotes.
> Robert


If you go to the best quality locksmith in your town you will find
they can do it and at a price way lower than any
"dollarship"
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Old 26 Mar 2009, 07:06 am   #5 (permalink)
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On Mar 26, 5:30 am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > >On Mar 25, 7:55 am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > I have a 97 Vienta Touring and the previous owner had lost the
> > > > remote for
> > > > the central locking. I spoke to Toyota about what it would cost to
> > > > fix
> > > > and
> > > > was quoted $800 for a replacement CIR unit and 2 new remotes and
> > > > basically
> > > > told that I was better off getting an aftermarket unit. This car
> > > > also has
> > > > an
> > > > "Integrated Security System" from factory but I am not exactly sure
> > > > what
> > > > that includes other than an alarm, anyone know if it has an
> > > > immobiliser
> > > > or
> > > > how good the system is.

> >
> > > > So my questions are,
> > > > 1) What is the Integrated Security System?
> > > > 2) What aftermarket remote central locking kit should I be looking
> > > > at, or
> > > > should I be looking at an alarm system and using its remotes? What
> > > > do
> > > > they
> > > > cost?
> > > > 3) Is this a job I am likely to be able to do myself or should I go
> > > > to an
> > > > auto electrician if it involves messing around with the security
> > > > system?

> >
> > > > Any help is greatly appreciated and I am in Brisbane, Australia if
> > > > anyone
> > > > has any recommendations on where to get stuff done.

> >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Robert

> >
> > > Hi Robert,
> > > My uncle has a 1998 Camry LE and he to lost both of his
> > > remotes. He took it to Toyota and he was able to buy new remotes and
> > > have them re-programmed for the car. He could still use the stock unit
> > > and didn't have to re-install a new central lock/security system for
> > > the car. He had to pay 80 dollars a FOB, but its a far cry from $800.
> > > He lives in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada, but I would assume that Toyota
> > > systems were the same internationally. But you know what they say
> > > about assuming...

> >
> > Thanks for that info, I will try ringing up some more dealerships and
> > see if
> > any of them are able to pull the code off the existing system to program
> > some new remotes.
> > Robert

>
> If you go to the best quality locksmith in your town you will find
> they can do it and at a price way lower than any
> "dollarship"


So what you are saying is that any good locksmiths should be able to program
up a new remote by pulling the codes off the reciever. I guess I figured
only Toyota themselves would have access to the codes and blank
transmitters. I will definately give this a try and let you know how I get
on. Thanks for the help.
Robert

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Old 26 Mar 2009, 05:03 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Mar 26, 8:06*am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 5:30 am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > >On Mar 25, 7:55 am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > I have a 97 Vienta Touring and the previous owner had lost the
> > > > > remote for
> > > > > the central locking. I spoke to Toyota about what it would cost to
> > > > > fix
> > > > > and
> > > > > was quoted $800 for a replacement CIR unit and 2 new remotes and
> > > > > basically
> > > > > told that I was better off getting an aftermarket unit. This car
> > > > > also has
> > > > > an
> > > > > "Integrated Security System" from factory but I am not exactly sure
> > > > > what
> > > > > that includes other than an alarm, anyone know if it has an
> > > > > immobiliser
> > > > > or
> > > > > how good the system is.

>
> > > > > So my questions are,
> > > > > 1) What is the Integrated Security System?
> > > > > 2) What aftermarket remote central locking kit should I be looking
> > > > > at, or
> > > > > should I be looking at an alarm system and using its remotes? What
> > > > > do
> > > > > they
> > > > > cost?
> > > > > 3) Is this a job I am likely to be able to do myself or should I go
> > > > > to an
> > > > > auto electrician if it involves messing around with the security
> > > > > system?

>
> > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated and I am in Brisbane, Australia if
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > has any recommendations on where to get stuff done.

>
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Robert

>
> > > > Hi Robert,
> > > > My uncle has a 1998 Camry LE and he to lost both of his
> > > > remotes. He took it to Toyota and he was able to buy new remotes and
> > > > have them re-programmed for the car. He could still use the stock unit
> > > > and didn't have to re-install a new central lock/security system for
> > > > the car. He had to pay 80 dollars a FOB, but its a far cry from $800.
> > > > He lives in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada, but I would assume that Toyota
> > > > systems were the same internationally. But you know what they say
> > > > about assuming...

>
> > > Thanks for that info, I will try ringing up some more dealerships and
> > > see if
> > > any of them are able to pull the code off the existing system to program
> > > some new remotes.
> > > Robert

>
> > If you go to the best quality locksmith in your town you will find
> > they can do it and at a price way lower than any
> > "dollarship"

>
> So what you are saying is that any good locksmiths should be able to program
> up a new remote by pulling the codes off the reciever. I guess I figured
> only Toyota themselves would have access to the codes and blank
> transmitters. I will definately give this a try and let you know how I get
> on. Thanks for the help.
> Robert


I had them cut my ignition keys at about 50 bucks less than a dealer.
Also the dealer told me they couldn't cut them anyhow
because their computer refuses to do more than three copies but they
would be happy to reprogram my whole computer for the measly some of
$800. It was at that point I figured these people are no better than
scam artists. The locksmith had a great laugh over the whole affair.
And believe me I do my level best to send a lot of people away from
this" stealership."
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Old 27 Mar 2009, 07:58 pm   #7 (permalink)
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> > > > >On Mar 25, 7:55 am, "Robert McMillan" <rmcmil...@bigpond.com>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > I have a 97 Vienta Touring and the previous owner had lost the
> > > > > > remote for
> > > > > > the central locking. I spoke to Toyota about what it would cost
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > fix
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > was quoted $800 for a replacement CIR unit and 2 new remotes and
> > > > > > basically
> > > > > > told that I was better off getting an aftermarket unit. This car
> > > > > > also has
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > "Integrated Security System" from factory but I am not exactly
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > that includes other than an alarm, anyone know if it has an
> > > > > > immobiliser
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > how good the system is.

> >
> > > > > > So my questions are,
> > > > > > 1) What is the Integrated Security System?
> > > > > > 2) What aftermarket remote central locking kit should I be
> > > > > > looking
> > > > > > at, or
> > > > > > should I be looking at an alarm system and using its remotes?
> > > > > > What
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > cost?
> > > > > > 3) Is this a job I am likely to be able to do myself or should I
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > to an
> > > > > > auto electrician if it involves messing around with the security
> > > > > > system?

> >
> > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated and I am in Brisbane, Australia
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > anyone
> > > > > > has any recommendations on where to get stuff done.

> >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Robert

> >
> > > > > Hi Robert,
> > > > > My uncle has a 1998 Camry LE and he to lost both of his
> > > > > remotes. He took it to Toyota and he was able to buy new remotes
> > > > > and
> > > > > have them re-programmed for the car. He could still use the stock
> > > > > unit
> > > > > and didn't have to re-install a new central lock/security system
> > > > > for
> > > > > the car. He had to pay 80 dollars a FOB, but its a far cry from
> > > > > $800.
> > > > > He lives in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada, but I would assume that
> > > > > Toyota
> > > > > systems were the same internationally. But you know what they say
> > > > > about assuming...

> >
> > > > Thanks for that info, I will try ringing up some more dealerships
> > > > and
> > > > see if
> > > > any of them are able to pull the code off the existing system to
> > > > program
> > > > some new remotes.
> > > > Robert

> >
> > > If you go to the best quality locksmith in your town you will find
> > > they can do it and at a price way lower than any
> > > "dollarship"

> >
> > So what you are saying is that any good locksmiths should be able to
> > program
> > up a new remote by pulling the codes off the reciever. I guess I figured
> > only Toyota themselves would have access to the codes and blank
> > transmitters. I will definately give this a try and let you know how I
> > get
> > on. Thanks for the help.
> > Robert

>
> I had them cut my ignition keys at about 50 bucks less than a dealer.
> Also the dealer told me they couldn't cut them anyhow
> because their computer refuses to do more than three copies but they
> would be happy to reprogram my whole computer for the measly some of
> $800. It was at that point I figured these people are no better than
> scam artists. The locksmith had a great laugh over the whole affair.
> And believe me I do my level best to send a lot of people away from
> this" stealership."


I spoke to a different dealership and they are quoting me $300 for a Central
Integrated Relay? (CIR) unit which includes 2 new remotes, and then ~$200
labour to install it. I have to wonder if it is as simple as unplugging the
old unit, plugging in the new one and then it will just work or if they have
to do some sort of initialization on the new one.

On the other hand the auto electritions are quoting me $200 to supply and
fit a remote central locking kit, or $300 to supply and fit a full alarm
system which will include remote central locking.

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