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Old 21 Apr 2009, 08:12 am   #1 (permalink)
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I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have decided
to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed. Tires
and battery are new.
My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or replacement
for the long haul?
What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?


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Old 21 Apr 2009, 03:23 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Apr 21, 8:12*am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have decided
> to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed. Tires
> and battery are new.
> My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or replacement
> for the long haul?
> What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?


Your manual is thorough for milage and time, just follow it, you have
alot to do just based on years of service.
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Old 21 Apr 2009, 08:22 pm   #3 (permalink)
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I know it's 11 years old, but 40K miles and a new radiator already?
Radiators do go out but probably not before 100K miles. So keep an eye
on coolant changes (preferably Toyota Red and distilled water only),
the radiator cap and thermostat too if you intend to keep it longer,
because if the water pump seizes and engine overheats, then it's
pretty much the end of it.

For an 11 yo car, the thing is with rubber deterioration. It ages,
drive or parked, period. When it hardens in a transmission and causes
an internal leak, for example, then that's that. So things like timing
belt, water pump, oil seals, valve cover gasket, all coolant hoses
need to be checked in addition to the regular maintenance items. I'd
also have the Aisin A140E transmission pan dropped, wiped clean,
magnets cleaned, and put a new strainer on there (a Fram ATF kit is
only about $15-20). But cleanliness and accuracy is important with
transmissions, so the shop doesn't cost you a transmission. I'd change
out the $20 fuel filter by the air filter housing as well, be careful
about the flare nut seizing to the filter -- twisted hose while taking
it off.

Brake system: you should flush the brake fluid ($8/quart, but dealer
charges ~$100 to do) every 2 years, especially if you have ABS. You
should *not* need to touch the rotors if they have no warpage or
scoring. Brake pads: just go with Akebono ProAct cermaic. The Toyota
pads made by Akebono are a cheaper version (EE friction rating vs the
FF for ProAct). Labor should be ~$60 per axle. So pads replacement
only, front and rear, shouldn't be more than ~$220+tax.

www.akebonobrakes.com

Unfortunately, most of what you pay a mechanic to do goes to profit.
Parts are like <20-25%, and that's buying retail, not wholesale. But
you do what's needed if you want to keep the car longer. So ask around
for a good mechanic, maybe at an independent shop.


On Apr 21, 6:12*am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have decided
> to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed. Tires
> and battery are new.
> My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or replacement
> for the long haul?
> What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?


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Old 22 Apr 2009, 05:46 am   #4 (permalink)
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johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
> I know it's 11 years old, but 40K miles and a new radiator already?
> Radiators do go out but probably not before 100K miles. So keep an eye
> on coolant changes (preferably Toyota Red and distilled water only),
> the radiator cap and thermostat too if you intend to keep it longer,
> because if the water pump seizes and engine overheats, then it's
> pretty much the end of it.
>
> For an 11 yo car, the thing is with rubber deterioration. It ages,
> drive or parked, period. When it hardens in a transmission and causes
> an internal leak, for example, then that's that. So things like timing
> belt, water pump, oil seals, valve cover gasket, all coolant hoses
> need to be checked in addition to the regular maintenance items. I'd
> also have the Aisin A140E transmission pan dropped, wiped clean,
> magnets cleaned, and put a new strainer on there (a Fram ATF kit is
> only about $15-20). But cleanliness and accuracy is important with
> transmissions, so the shop doesn't cost you a transmission. I'd change
> out the $20 fuel filter by the air filter housing as well, be careful
> about the flare nut seizing to the filter -- twisted hose while taking
> it off.
>
> Brake system: you should flush the brake fluid ($8/quart, but dealer
> charges ~$100 to do) every 2 years, especially if you have ABS. You
> should *not* need to touch the rotors if they have no warpage or
> scoring. Brake pads: just go with Akebono ProAct cermaic. The Toyota
> pads made by Akebono are a cheaper version (EE friction rating vs the
> FF for ProAct). Labor should be ~$60 per axle. So pads replacement
> only, front and rear, shouldn't be more than ~$220+tax.
>
> www.akebonobrakes.com
>
> Unfortunately, most of what you pay a mechanic to do goes to profit.
> Parts are like <20-25%, and that's buying retail, not wholesale. But
> you do what's needed if you want to keep the car longer. So ask around
> for a good mechanic, maybe at an independent shop.
>
>
> On Apr 21, 6:12 am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have decided
>> to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed. Tires
>> and battery are new.
>> My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or replacement
>> for the long haul?
>> What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?

>

4,000 miles per year? I'd say the best thing you could do for it would
be to drive it more.
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Old 23 Apr 2009, 12:50 am   #5 (permalink)
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"Fat Moe" <FatMoe@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote in message
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> johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
>> I know it's 11 years old, but 40K miles and a new radiator already?
>> Radiators do go out but probably not before 100K miles. So keep an eye
>> on coolant changes (preferably Toyota Red and distilled water only),
>> the radiator cap and thermostat too if you intend to keep it longer,
>> because if the water pump seizes and engine overheats, then it's
>> pretty much the end of it.
>>
>> For an 11 yo car, the thing is with rubber deterioration. It ages,
>> drive or parked, period. When it hardens in a transmission and causes
>> an internal leak, for example, then that's that. So things like timing
>> belt, water pump, oil seals, valve cover gasket, all coolant hoses
>> need to be checked in addition to the regular maintenance items. I'd
>> also have the Aisin A140E transmission pan dropped, wiped clean,
>> magnets cleaned, and put a new strainer on there (a Fram ATF kit is
>> only about $15-20). But cleanliness and accuracy is important with
>> transmissions, so the shop doesn't cost you a transmission. I'd change
>> out the $20 fuel filter by the air filter housing as well, be careful
>> about the flare nut seizing to the filter -- twisted hose while taking
>> it off.
>>
>> Brake system: you should flush the brake fluid ($8/quart, but dealer
>> charges ~$100 to do) every 2 years, especially if you have ABS. You
>> should *not* need to touch the rotors if they have no warpage or
>> scoring. Brake pads: just go with Akebono ProAct cermaic. The Toyota
>> pads made by Akebono are a cheaper version (EE friction rating vs the
>> FF for ProAct). Labor should be ~$60 per axle. So pads replacement
>> only, front and rear, shouldn't be more than ~$220+tax.
>>
>> www.akebonobrakes.com
>>
>> Unfortunately, most of what you pay a mechanic to do goes to profit.
>> Parts are like <20-25%, and that's buying retail, not wholesale. But
>> you do what's needed if you want to keep the car longer. So ask around
>> for a good mechanic, maybe at an independent shop.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 21, 6:12 am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>>> I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have
>>> decided
>>> to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed.
>>> Tires
>>> and battery are new.
>>> My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or
>>> replacement
>>> for the long haul?
>>> What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?

>>

> 4,000 miles per year? I'd say the best thing you could do for it would be
> to drive it more.


Why? Drive for that reason? Silly.

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Old 23 Apr 2009, 05:21 am   #6 (permalink)
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> Sharx35 wrote:
>>
>> "Fat Moe" <FatMoe@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote in message
>> news:49eef56f$0$5496$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net. ..
>>> johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> I know it's 11 years old, but 40K miles and a new radiator already?
>>>> Radiators do go out but probably not before 100K miles. So keep an eye
>>>> on coolant changes (preferably Toyota Red and distilled water only),
>>>> the radiator cap and thermostat too if you intend to keep it longer,
>>>> because if the water pump seizes and engine overheats, then it's
>>>> pretty much the end of it.
>>>>
>>>> For an 11 yo car, the thing is with rubber deterioration. It ages,
>>>> drive or parked, period. When it hardens in a transmission and causes
>>>> an internal leak, for example, then that's that. So things like timing
>>>> belt, water pump, oil seals, valve cover gasket, all coolant hoses
>>>> need to be checked in addition to the regular maintenance items. I'd
>>>> also have the Aisin A140E transmission pan dropped, wiped clean,
>>>> magnets cleaned, and put a new strainer on there (a Fram ATF kit is
>>>> only about $15-20). But cleanliness and accuracy is important with
>>>> transmissions, so the shop doesn't cost you a transmission. I'd change
>>>> out the $20 fuel filter by the air filter housing as well, be careful
>>>> about the flare nut seizing to the filter -- twisted hose while taking
>>>> it off.
>>>>
>>>> Brake system: you should flush the brake fluid ($8/quart, but dealer
>>>> charges ~$100 to do) every 2 years, especially if you have ABS. You
>>>> should *not* need to touch the rotors if they have no warpage or
>>>> scoring. Brake pads: just go with Akebono ProAct cermaic. The Toyota
>>>> pads made by Akebono are a cheaper version (EE friction rating vs the
>>>> FF for ProAct). Labor should be ~$60 per axle. So pads replacement
>>>> only, front and rear, shouldn't be more than ~$220+tax.
>>>>
>>>> www.akebonobrakes.com
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, most of what you pay a mechanic to do goes to profit.
>>>> Parts are like <20-25%, and that's buying retail, not wholesale. But
>>>> you do what's needed if you want to keep the car longer. So ask around
>>>> for a good mechanic, maybe at an independent shop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 21, 6:12 am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have
>>>>> decided
>>>>> to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed.
>>>>> Tires
>>>>> and battery are new.
>>>>> My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or
>>>>> replacement
>>>>> for the long haul?
>>>>> What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?
>>>>
>>> 4,000 miles per year? I'd say the best thing you could do for it would
>>> be to drive it more.

>>
>> Why? Drive for that reason? Silly.

>
>
> It's not so much how many miles you drive as how you drive. I've put
> as little as 2k miles per year on some of my cars, but I always make sure
> that when I run them, I run them long enough for the engine to get hot and
> burn off all condensates. I get literally decades out of cars that way.
> Short trips are hard on cars no matter how many miles total you drive, and
> longer runs (at least 10 minutes, preferably more, with at least some of
> it under significant load like highway driving or hill climbing, are
> better even when you don't rack up a lot of miles.


Good advice.

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Old 23 Apr 2009, 05:57 am   #7 (permalink)
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Sharx35 wrote:
>
> "Fat Moe" <FatMoe@BubbleWorld.Com> wrote in message
> news:49eef56f$0$5496$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net. ..
>> johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> I know it's 11 years old, but 40K miles and a new radiator already?
>>> Radiators do go out but probably not before 100K miles. So keep an eye
>>> on coolant changes (preferably Toyota Red and distilled water only),
>>> the radiator cap and thermostat too if you intend to keep it longer,
>>> because if the water pump seizes and engine overheats, then it's
>>> pretty much the end of it.
>>>
>>> For an 11 yo car, the thing is with rubber deterioration. It ages,
>>> drive or parked, period. When it hardens in a transmission and causes
>>> an internal leak, for example, then that's that. So things like timing
>>> belt, water pump, oil seals, valve cover gasket, all coolant hoses
>>> need to be checked in addition to the regular maintenance items. I'd
>>> also have the Aisin A140E transmission pan dropped, wiped clean,
>>> magnets cleaned, and put a new strainer on there (a Fram ATF kit is
>>> only about $15-20). But cleanliness and accuracy is important with
>>> transmissions, so the shop doesn't cost you a transmission. I'd change
>>> out the $20 fuel filter by the air filter housing as well, be careful
>>> about the flare nut seizing to the filter -- twisted hose while taking
>>> it off.
>>>
>>> Brake system: you should flush the brake fluid ($8/quart, but dealer
>>> charges ~$100 to do) every 2 years, especially if you have ABS. You
>>> should *not* need to touch the rotors if they have no warpage or
>>> scoring. Brake pads: just go with Akebono ProAct cermaic. The Toyota
>>> pads made by Akebono are a cheaper version (EE friction rating vs the
>>> FF for ProAct). Labor should be ~$60 per axle. So pads replacement
>>> only, front and rear, shouldn't be more than ~$220+tax.
>>>
>>> www.akebonobrakes.com
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, most of what you pay a mechanic to do goes to profit.
>>> Parts are like <20-25%, and that's buying retail, not wholesale. But
>>> you do what's needed if you want to keep the car longer. So ask around
>>> for a good mechanic, maybe at an independent shop.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 21, 6:12 am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>> I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have
>>>> decided
>>>> to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans
>>>> flushed. Tires
>>>> and battery are new.
>>>> My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or
>>>> replacement
>>>> for the long haul?
>>>> What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?
>>>

>> 4,000 miles per year? I'd say the best thing you could do for it
>> would be to drive it more.

>
> Why? Drive for that reason? Silly.



It's not so much how many miles you drive as how you drive. I've
put as little as 2k miles per year on some of my cars, but I always make
sure that when I run them, I run them long enough for the engine to get
hot and burn off all condensates. I get literally decades out of cars
that way. Short trips are hard on cars no matter how many miles total
you drive, and longer runs (at least 10 minutes, preferably more, with
at least some of it under significant load like highway driving or hill
climbing, are better even when you don't rack up a lot of miles.
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Old 23 Apr 2009, 07:14 am   #8 (permalink)
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On Apr 21, 9:22*pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I know it's 11 years old, but 40K miles and a new radiator already?
> Radiators do go out but probably not before 100K miles. So keep an eye
> on coolant changes (preferably Toyota Red and distilled water only),
> the radiator cap and thermostat too if you intend to keep it longer,
> because if the water pump seizes and engine overheats, then it's
> pretty much the end of it.
>
> For an 11 yo car, the thing is with rubber deterioration. It ages,
> drive or parked, period. When it hardens in a transmission and causes
> an internal leak, for example, then that's that. So things like timing
> belt, water pump, oil seals, valve cover gasket, all coolant hoses
> need to be checked in addition to the regular maintenance items. I'd
> also have the Aisin A140E transmission pan dropped, wiped clean,
> magnets cleaned, and put a new strainer on there (a Fram ATF kit is
> only about $15-20). But cleanliness and accuracy is important with
> transmissions, so the shop doesn't cost you a transmission. I'd change
> out the $20 fuel filter by the air filter housing as well, be careful
> about the flare nut seizing to the filter -- twisted hose while taking
> it off.
>
> Brake system: you should flush the brake fluid ($8/quart, but dealer
> charges ~$100 to do) every 2 years, especially if you have ABS. You
> should *not* need to touch the rotors if they have no warpage or
> scoring. Brake pads: just go with Akebono ProAct cermaic. The Toyota
> pads made by Akebono are a cheaper version (EE friction rating vs the
> FF for ProAct). Labor should be ~$60 per axle. So pads replacement
> only, front and rear, shouldn't be more than ~$220+tax.
>
> www.akebonobrakes.com
>
> Unfortunately, most of what you pay a mechanic to do goes to profit.
> Parts are like <20-25%, and that's buying retail, not wholesale. But
> you do what's needed if you want to keep the car longer. So ask around
> for a good mechanic, maybe at an independent shop.
>
> On Apr 21, 6:12*am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have decided
> > to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed. Tires
> > and battery are new.
> > My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or replacement
> > for the long haul?
> > What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?


I don't believe anyone has mentioned replacing the water pump and
timing belt. Although far below the recommended mileage, age will have
deteriorated the belt and it is always wise to replace the water pump
at the same time to avoid duplicate labor charges.
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Old 25 Apr 2009, 07:53 am   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks to everyone that responded with good points.

"Jack" <jhard@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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>I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have decided
>to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed. Tires
>and battery are new.
> My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or
> replacement for the long haul?
> What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?
>
>



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Old 26 Apr 2009, 07:16 am   #10 (permalink)
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On Apr 25, 8:53*am, "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that responded with good points.
>
> "Jack" <jh...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>
> news:q9-dncdk-v_FW3DUnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@insightbb.com...
>
> >I have a '98 4 cyl Camry, with 40300 miles, I bought it new. I have decided
> >to keep it. I have had 4 new struts, radiator and auto trans flushed. Tires
> >and battery are new.
> > My brake pedal indicates brake repair.What else needs repair or
> > replacement for the long haul?
> > What does a good brake job consists of and what is a reasonable cost?


I have 1999 camry 4 with 180,000 + miles and have the same struts, I
have gone through several tire sets and oil changes. Muffler was
changed because it suffered damage not wear. The shift lever cable
broke and new front pads and rotors. Other than that just regular
maintenance.
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