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Old 04 May 2009, 11:55 am   #1 (permalink)
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Our 98 camry, V6 has had a louder noise coming from the from of the
exhaust lately so I brought it in to a KOST Tire and Muffler shop.

After inspecting, they said there is a hole in the flex pipe, that is
where the sound is coming from, gaskets are rusted etc, if they take
off that first part, from manifold to end of catalytic converter, the
clamps may break that attaches to the next art of the pipe that goes
back to the muffler. If they take of that clamp by the muffler that
clamp may break and I would need a whole new muffler, so they
basically wanted to sell me an entire exhaust system for $1383.00 from
exhaust manifold to tailpipe.

Wow.

The front pipe was quoted at $619.89. Mid pipe $198.95, muffler
$260.00, gaskets $13.99, labor not included.

So I go home and look up online the front pipe, I find one for $270
and then another one (California emissions) for $350.00.

I didn't think my car would fall into the California emissions since I
live in NY, but looking under the hood it seems it is a California car
(still confused on if I'm reading that right, or if it means I need
the california front pipe.

My question, should I order the piece myself (after I find out which
one I need) and try this myself? Or get a second opinion? Thanks








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Old 04 May 2009, 04:08 pm   #2 (permalink)
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smk17 wrote:
> Our 98 camry, V6 has had a louder noise coming from the from of the
> exhaust lately so I brought it in to a KOST Tire and Muffler shop.
>
> After inspecting, they said there is a hole in the flex pipe, that is
> where the sound is coming from, gaskets are rusted etc, if they take
> off that first part, from manifold to end of catalytic converter, the
> clamps may break that attaches to the next art of the pipe that goes
> back to the muffler. If they take of that clamp by the muffler that
> clamp may break and I would need a whole new muffler, so they
> basically wanted to sell me an entire exhaust system for $1383.00 from
> exhaust manifold to tailpipe.
>
> Wow.
>
> The front pipe was quoted at $619.89. Mid pipe $198.95, muffler
> $260.00, gaskets $13.99, labor not included.
>
> So I go home and look up online the front pipe, I find one for $270
> and then another one (California emissions) for $350.00.
>
> I didn't think my car would fall into the California emissions since I
> live in NY, but looking under the hood it seems it is a California car
> (still confused on if I'm reading that right, or if it means I need
> the california front pipe.
>
> My question, should I order the piece myself (after I find out which
> one I need) and try this myself? Or get a second opinion? Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Take it to a good independent shop, preferably one that uses NAPA
parts. If the system is old they may well have to replace everything,
but you might get lucky and even if you don't it should cost you under a
grand. They can also tell you if the car is CA spec or not.
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Old 04 May 2009, 10:51 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On May 4, 11:55*am, smk17 <sm...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> Our 98 camry, V6 has had a louder noise coming from the from of the
> exhaust lately so I brought it in to a KOST Tire and Muffler shop.
>
> After inspecting, they said there is a hole in the flex pipe, that is
> where the sound is coming from, gaskets are rusted etc, if they take
> off that first part, from manifold to end of catalytic converter, the
> clamps may break that attaches to the next art of the pipe that goes
> back to the muffler. If they take of that clamp by the muffler that
> clamp may break and I would need *a whole new muffler, so they
> basically wanted to sell me an entire exhaust system for $1383.00 from
> exhaust manifold to tailpipe.
>
> Wow.
>
> The front pipe was quoted at $619.89. Mid pipe $198.95, muffler
> $260.00, gaskets $13.99, labor not included.
>
> So I go home and look up online the front pipe, I find one for $270
> and then another one (California emissions) for $350.00.
>
> I didn't think my car would fall into the California emissions since I
> live in NY, but looking under the hood it seems it is a California car
> (still confused on if I'm reading that right, or if it means I need
> the california front pipe.
>
> My question, should I order the piece myself (after I find out which
> one I need) and try this myself? Or get a second opinion? Thanks


Get some muffler repar goo for 6.95. Yes those muffler shops will take
your money and wont save any of your system, I had a hole in my
muffler, used goo 6 yrs ago and it still fine.
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Old 05 May 2009, 08:14 am   #4 (permalink)
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On May 4, 11:51*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 11:55*am, smk17 <sm...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Our 98 camry, V6 has had a louder noise coming from the from of the
> > exhaust lately so I brought it in to a KOST Tire and Muffler shop.

>
> > After inspecting, they said there is a hole in the flex pipe, that is
> > where the sound is coming from, gaskets are rusted etc, if they take
> > off that first part, from manifold to end of catalytic converter, the
> > clamps may break that attaches to the next art of the pipe that goes
> > back to the muffler. If they take of that clamp by the muffler that
> > clamp may break and I would need *a whole new muffler, so they
> > basically wanted to sell me an entire exhaust system for $1383.00 from
> > exhaust manifold to tailpipe.

>
> > Wow.

>
> > The front pipe was quoted at $619.89. Mid pipe $198.95, muffler
> > $260.00, gaskets $13.99, labor not included.

>
> > So I go home and look up online the front pipe, I find one for $270
> > and then another one (California emissions) for $350.00.

>
> > I didn't think my car would fall into the California emissions since I
> > live in NY, but looking under the hood it seems it is a California car
> > (still confused on if I'm reading that right, or if it means I need
> > the california front pipe.

>
> > My question, should I order the piece myself (after I find out which
> > one I need) and try this myself? Or get a second opinion? Thanks

>
> Get some muffler repar goo for 6.95. Yes those muffler shops will take
> your money and wont save any of your system, I had a hole in my
> muffler, used goo 6 yrs ago and it still fine.


I live in Maine, USA and I just had my flex pipe replaced and it was
$107 including labor. Did the person at you shop wear a mask? I have a
1999 Camry CE 4 with 182000 miles.
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Old 05 May 2009, 11:23 am   #5 (permalink)
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norm46 wrote:
> On May 4, 11:51 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On May 4, 11:55 am, smk17 <sm...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Our 98 camry, V6 has had a louder noise coming from the from of the
>>> exhaust lately so I brought it in to a KOST Tire and Muffler shop.
>>> After inspecting, they said there is a hole in the flex pipe, that is
>>> where the sound is coming from, gaskets are rusted etc, if they take
>>> off that first part, from manifold to end of catalytic converter, the
>>> clamps may break that attaches to the next art of the pipe that goes
>>> back to the muffler. If they take of that clamp by the muffler that
>>> clamp may break and I would need a whole new muffler, so they
>>> basically wanted to sell me an entire exhaust system for $1383.00 from
>>> exhaust manifold to tailpipe.
>>> Wow.
>>> The front pipe was quoted at $619.89. Mid pipe $198.95, muffler
>>> $260.00, gaskets $13.99, labor not included.
>>> So I go home and look up online the front pipe, I find one for $270
>>> and then another one (California emissions) for $350.00.
>>> I didn't think my car would fall into the California emissions since I
>>> live in NY, but looking under the hood it seems it is a California car
>>> (still confused on if I'm reading that right, or if it means I need
>>> the california front pipe.
>>> My question, should I order the piece myself (after I find out which
>>> one I need) and try this myself? Or get a second opinion? Thanks

>> Get some muffler repar goo for 6.95. Yes those muffler shops will take
>> your money and wont save any of your system, I had a hole in my
>> muffler, used goo 6 yrs ago and it still fine.

>
> I live in Maine, USA and I just had my flex pipe replaced and it was
> $107 including labor. Did the person at you shop wear a mask? I have a
> 1999 Camry CE 4 with 182000 miles.



For the original poster: don't listen to whoever suggested "muffler
repar goo" for a bad flex pipe. They are near the manifold and get too hot.
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Old 05 May 2009, 08:18 pm   #6 (permalink)
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I believe California Emissions cars are sold not only in California
but New York and Massachusetts. So you have to buy pipes meeting
"California" standards or you may not be able to pass the next
inspection.

If it's only the flex pipe, then you should be able to get it fixed
cheap, like the other owner said.

On May 4, 9:55*am, smk17 <sm...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> So I go home and look up online the front pipe, I find one for $270
> and then another one (California emissions) for $350.00.
>
> I didn't think my car would fall into the California emissions since I
> live in NY, but looking under the hood it seems it is a California car
> (still confused on if I'm reading that right, or if it means I need
> the california front pipe.
>
> My question, should I order the piece myself (after I find out which
> one I need) and try this myself? Or get a second opinion? Thanks


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Old 08 May 2009, 02:43 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On May 5, 9:18*pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I believe California Emissions cars are sold not only in California
> but New York and Massachusetts. So you have to buy pipes meeting
> "California" standards or you may not be able to pass the next
> inspection.
>
> If it's only the flex pipe, then you should be able to get it fixed
> cheap, like the other owner said.

FINAL VERDICT

Took it to my local repair shop, $269 for front pipe (which includes
catalytic converter) and labor.

KOST Tire and Muffler is a rip off. They wanted $619 for that part
alone. Stay away from chain store repair shops. Which I'm sure a lot
of you already knew.




> On May 4, 9:55*am, smk17 <sm...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> > So I go home and look up online the front pipe, I find one for $270
> > and then another one (California emissions) for $350.00.

>
> > I didn't think my car would fall into the California emissions since I
> > live in NY, but looking under the hood it seems it is a California car
> > (still confused on if I'm reading that right, or if it means I need
> > the california front pipe.

>
> > My question, should I order the piece myself (after I find out which
> > one I need) and try this myself? Or get a second opinion? Thanks


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