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Old 29 May 2009, 03:52 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hi gang! Well, time to rotate tires and change oil again. My '06 Camry's

manual calls for simple front-to-rear tire rotation, keeping the tires on

the * same side * of the car. However, my tires are not uni-directional

tires (there is no arrow displayed on the sidewall), so I was wondering if

it would be okay on the Camry LE to rotate its tires front to rear and

criss-cross the rear tires to the front, so eventually every tire will do

service at each of the 4 axles? This would seem to me to provide the most

even wear on each of the 4 tires. Anything wrong with my plan? And why

would the manual instruct owners to rotate tires as if the tires were

uni-directional, even though the tires are not unidirectional? The

manual's method keeps tires on the same side of the vehicle forever.

Thanks very much in advance :-)
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Old 29 May 2009, 04:07 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi gang! Well, time to rotate tires and change oil again. My '06 Camry's
>
> manual calls for simple front-to-rear tire rotation, keeping the tires on
>
> the * same side * of the car. However, my tires are not uni-directional
>
> tires (there is no arrow displayed on the sidewall), so I was wondering if
>
> it would be okay on the Camry LE to rotate its tires front to rear and
>
> criss-cross the rear tires to the front, so eventually every tire will do
>
> service at each of the 4 axles? This would seem to me to provide the most
>
> even wear on each of the 4 tires. Anything wrong with my plan? And why
>
> would the manual instruct owners to rotate tires as if the tires were
>
> uni-directional, even though the tires are not unidirectional? The
>
> manual's method keeps tires on the same side of the vehicle forever.
>
> Thanks very much in advance :-)


Your plan is OK, however, consider who is more likely to know more about
your car - the people who post here or the people who designed and made your
car :-)
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Ray O
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Old 29 May 2009, 04:15 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4a204b1a$0$35398$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.oct anews.com...
> Hi gang! Well, time to rotate tires and change oil again. My '06 Camry's
>
> manual calls for simple front-to-rear tire rotation, keeping the tires on
>
> the * same side * of the car. However, my tires are not uni-directional
>
> tires (there is no arrow displayed on the sidewall), so I was wondering if
>
> it would be okay on the Camry LE to rotate its tires front to rear and
>
> criss-cross the rear tires to the front, so eventually every tire will do
>
> service at each of the 4 axles? This would seem to me to provide the most
>
> even wear on each of the 4 tires. Anything wrong with my plan? And why
>
> would the manual instruct owners to rotate tires as if the tires were
>
> uni-directional, even though the tires are not unidirectional? The
>
> manual's method keeps tires on the same side of the vehicle forever.
>
> Thanks very much in advance :-)




Radial tires do not like to change sides. Rotate front to rear, do not
cross.










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Old 29 May 2009, 05:50 pm   #4 (permalink)
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as Ray & Jeff state "X" rotation went out years ago.


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Old 29 May 2009, 07:35 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On 5/29/09 4:15 PM, in article gvpj9t$t5q$1@news.eternal-september.org,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> "Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4a204b1a$0$35398$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.oct anews.com...
>> Hi gang! Well, time to rotate tires and change oil again. My '06 Camry's
>>
>> manual calls for simple front-to-rear tire rotation, keeping the tires on
>>
>> the * same side * of the car. However, my tires are not uni-directional
>>
>> tires (there is no arrow displayed on the sidewall), so I was wondering if
>>
>> it would be okay on the Camry LE to rotate its tires front to rear and
>>
>> criss-cross the rear tires to the front, so eventually every tire will do
>>
>> service at each of the 4 axles? This would seem to me to provide the most
>>
>> even wear on each of the 4 tires. Anything wrong with my plan? And why
>>
>> would the manual instruct owners to rotate tires as if the tires were
>>
>> uni-directional, even though the tires are not unidirectional? The
>>
>> manual's method keeps tires on the same side of the vehicle forever.
>>
>> Thanks very much in advance :-)

>
>
>
> Radial tires do not like to change sides. Rotate front to rear, do not
> cross.
>

That was true in 1985, not so much now anymore. Depending what car manual
you read these days, some of them have updated to recommend either same side
or 4/5 way rotations.

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Old 29 May 2009, 08:33 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Radial tires do not like to change sides. Rotate front to rear, do not
> cross.


If I understand correctly, some radials are quite happy if you rotate
them sidewise, and others are not.

You need to know the tire you have on the car.

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Old 29 May 2009, 09:33 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 20:33:33 -0500, "HLS" <nospam@nospam.nix> wrote:

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>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:gvpj9t$t5q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
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>>
>> Radial tires do not like to change sides. Rotate front to rear, do not
>> cross.

>
>If I understand correctly, some radials are quite happy if you rotate
>them sidewise, and others are not.
>
>You need to know the tire you have on the car.


HLS has it right. It is the tire that determines if you can use the X
rotation or need to stay on the same side. The car could care less
how you rotate the tires. Check with the tire's manufacturer or his
web site to find out about rotating that tire brand and model.

Jack j
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Old 29 May 2009, 10:57 pm   #8 (permalink)
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I don't know what inexpensive non-directional radial tires Toyota is
using these days to not like crossed rotation. However, Costco
mentioned that if crossing you may experience more noise problems, but
that's not been a problem for me.

Check with your tire manufacturer on rotation guidelines. Also take a
look at what TireRack and Michelin sites:

http://www.michelinman.com/tire-care/tire-saving-tips/
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=43

On May 29, 1:52*pm, Built_Well <Built_Well_Toy...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi gang! *Well, time to rotate tires and change oil again. My '06 Camry's
>
> manual calls for simple front-to-rear tire rotation, keeping the tires on
>
> the * same side * of the car. *However, my tires are not uni-directional
>
> tires (there is no arrow displayed on the sidewall), so I was wondering if
>
> it would be okay on the Camry LE to rotate its tires front to rear and
>
> criss-cross the rear tires to the front, so eventually every tire will do
>
> service at each of the 4 axles? *This would seem to me to provide the most
>
> even wear on each of the 4 tires. *Anything wrong with my plan? *And why
>
> would the manual instruct owners to rotate tires as if the tires were
>
> uni-directional, even though the tires are not unidirectional? The
>
> manual's method keeps tires on the same side of the vehicle forever.
>
> Thanks very much in advance :-)


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Old 30 May 2009, 12:43 pm   #9 (permalink)
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"HLS" <nospam@nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:gvpj9t$t5q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>
>> Radial tires do not like to change sides. Rotate front to rear, do not
>> cross.

>
> If I understand correctly, some radials are quite happy if you rotate
> them sidewise, and others are not.
>
> You need to know the tire you have on the car.
>


OR, you play it safe and do not cross the tires, as the Owner's Manual
instructs.

It's not really that big of a deal at the end of the day. If I was going to
do the work, I'd not cross the tires. If I went to the tire shop to get the
free rotation and balance, I'd let them do whatever they wanted.







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Old 31 May 2009, 07:39 am   #10 (permalink)
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "HLS" <nospam@nospam.nix> wrote in message
> news:P10Ul.11984$im1.5815@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:gvpj9t$t5q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>>
>>> Radial tires do not like to change sides. Rotate front to rear, do not
>>> cross.

>>
>> If I understand correctly, some radials are quite happy if you rotate
>> them sidewise, and others are not.
>>
>> You need to know the tire you have on the car.
>>

>
> OR, you play it safe and do not cross the tires, as the Owner's Manual
> instructs.
>
> It's not really that big of a deal at the end of the day. If I was going
> to do the work, I'd not cross the tires. If I went to the tire shop to get
> the free rotation and balance, I'd let them do whatever they wanted.


I suppose they are your tires and you can do whatever you want with them.

I would not let a tire shop "do whatever they wanted". I do not let them
use
impact wrenches, even with TorqStix.

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