2009 Camry LE 4cyl - tires and tire rating

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Old 18 Sep 2009, 10:24 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). The
tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
They say that can void the warranty and yet others say that can be a
safety issue. I wanted to get H-rated tires because they last a
little longer than the v-rated ones. My wife drives the car and the
last time I saw her driving the car, she does not indulge in any macho
driving habits, just the drive back and forth to work. What kind of
tires are OK for this car and does it void the warranty if I put some
other rated tires on it? Also, can safety be compromised by just
putting H-rated tires on this car? One of the reasons they give me is
that the H-rated tires have softer sidewalls compared to the v-rated
ones and cornering can cause safety issues. I am wondering whether
there is truly any merit to any of the issues they keep talking about?
I understand the composition of the different rated tires and how they
perform, but for a car like Toyota Camry, are they all valid?

Please help. Thanks

stony
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Old 19 Sep 2009, 04:22 am   #2 (permalink)
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stony wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
> crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). The
> tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
> They say that can void the warranty and yet others say that can be a
> safety issue. I wanted to get H-rated tires because they last a
> little longer than the v-rated ones. My wife drives the car and the
> last time I saw her driving the car, she does not indulge in any macho
> driving habits, just the drive back and forth to work. What kind of
> tires are OK for this car and does it void the warranty if I put some
> other rated tires on it? Also, can safety be compromised by just
> putting H-rated tires on this car? One of the reasons they give me is
> that the H-rated tires have softer sidewalls compared to the v-rated
> ones and cornering can cause safety issues. I am wondering whether
> there is truly any merit to any of the issues they keep talking about?
> I understand the composition of the different rated tires and how they
> perform, but for a car like Toyota Camry, are they all valid?
>
> Please help. Thanks
>
> stony



List the size here to make sure, but you should be fine with H rated
tires. Just tell her to keep it under 110mph.
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Old 19 Sep 2009, 07:27 am   #3 (permalink)
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:22:49 -0500, Leftie <No@Thanks.net> wrote:

>stony wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
>> crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). The
>> tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
>> They say that can void the warranty and yet others say that can be a
>> safety issue. I wanted to get H-rated tires because they last a
>> little longer than the v-rated ones. My wife drives the car and the
>> last time I saw her driving the car, she does not indulge in any macho
>> driving habits, just the drive back and forth to work. What kind of
>> tires are OK for this car and does it void the warranty if I put some
>> other rated tires on it? Also, can safety be compromised by just
>> putting H-rated tires on this car? One of the reasons they give me is
>> that the H-rated tires have softer sidewalls compared to the v-rated
>> ones and cornering can cause safety issues. I am wondering whether
>> there is truly any merit to any of the issues they keep talking about?
>> I understand the composition of the different rated tires and how they
>> perform, but for a car like Toyota Camry, are they all valid?
>>
>> Please help. Thanks
>>
>> stony

>
>
> List the size here to make sure, but you should be fine with H rated
>tires. Just tell her to keep it under 110mph.



215/60-R16 95V is the OEM that is on there now from the manufacturer.
They are Bridgestone Potenza's. I am looking at H-rated tires of the
same size and the tire stores are giving me some grief about that.
wonder what the motive is for that. I don't think my wife drives the
car anything over 65-70 mph.

Thanks for your responses

stony
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Old 19 Sep 2009, 02:54 pm   #4 (permalink)
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stony wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
> crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). The
> tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
> They say that can void the warranty and yet others say that can be a
> safety issue. I wanted to get H-rated tires because they last a
> little longer than the v-rated ones. My wife drives the car and the
> last time I saw her driving the car, she does not indulge in any macho
> driving habits, just the drive back and forth to work. What kind of
> tires are OK for this car and does it void the warranty if I put some
> other rated tires on it? Also, can safety be compromised by just
> putting H-rated tires on this car? One of the reasons they give me is
> that the H-rated tires have softer sidewalls compared to the v-rated
> ones and cornering can cause safety issues. I am wondering whether
> there is truly any merit to any of the issues they keep talking about?
> I understand the composition of the different rated tires and how they
> perform, but for a car like Toyota Camry, are they all valid?
>
> Please help. Thanks
>
> stony


Look it up on http://www.tirerack.com/
or
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=215
From the looks of thing if you wife can hold it below 118 mph and
stays off the race track she ought to be OK with T rated tires.
I bought 4 tires for my camry from discount tire direct the Yokahama
ones and so far they are working out great. I can mount and balance
them myself, but for most you will have to have shop do that. The ones
I got, only one required weights and that was like a half ounce to get
into balance.
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Old 19 Sep 2009, 03:02 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Had the same problem with tire dealers.
After much research finally ended up with General Altimax HP with 94V
rating.

http://www.generaltire.com/tires/T2

Tire Rack even gave good reviews, see:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....del=Altimax+HP



2002 Camry XLE /130,000 mi
So far (7,000mi) nice tires. Much improved over Michelen MXV4-S8 and a
whole lot cheaper.
Did notice drop in mileage at first with 29# inflation, up it to 33# and
mileage went back up to normal.

Jerry





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> stony wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
>> crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). The
>> tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
>> They say that can void the warranty and yet others say that can be a
>> safety issue. I wanted to get H-rated tires because they last a
>> little longer than the v-rated ones. My wife drives the car and the
>> last time I saw her driving the car, she does not indulge in any macho
>> driving habits, just the drive back and forth to work. What kind of
>> tires are OK for this car and does it void the warranty if I put some
>> other rated tires on it? Also, can safety be compromised by just
>> putting H-rated tires on this car? One of the reasons they give me is
>> that the H-rated tires have softer sidewalls compared to the v-rated
>> ones and cornering can cause safety issues. I am wondering whether
>> there is truly any merit to any of the issues they keep talking about?
>> I understand the composition of the different rated tires and how they
>> perform, but for a car like Toyota Camry, are they all valid?
>>
>> Please help. Thanks
>>
>> stony

>
> Look it up on http://www.tirerack.com/
> or
> http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=215
> From the looks of thing if you wife can hold it below 118 mph and stays
> off the race track she ought to be OK with T rated tires.
> I bought 4 tires for my camry from discount tire direct the Yokahama ones
> and so far they are working out great. I can mount and balance them
> myself, but for most you will have to have shop do that. The ones I got,
> only one required weights and that was like a half ounce to get into
> balance.



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Old 21 Sep 2009, 11:43 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Around 20-22K miles is about when many Bridgestones like to wear out.
Just avoid them like a plague.

215/60R16V is the tire on www.michelinman.com. I'm not sure why Toyota
wants to put V rated tires on Camrys. I mean, nobody considers them
performance cars right? But if they do, you have to use them, unless
you can point to a decal on the door frame saying otherwise.

For liability reasons tire shops these days won't install lesser
ratings, even if you acknowledge it on the work order. Costco for one
won't install lesser ones for you. I like to get Michelins from
Costco. However, the V-rated Energy S8 has only a 440 rating, which
equals about 44K miles. For me the ratings are pretty much in the ball
park.



On Sep 18, 8:24*pm, stony <x...@x.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
> crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). *The
> tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
> They say that can void the warranty and yet others say that can be a
> safety issue. *I wanted to get H-rated tires because they last a
> little longer than the v-rated ones. *My wife drives the car and the
> last time I saw her driving the car, she does not indulge in any macho
> driving habits, just the drive back and forth to work. *What kind of
> tires are OK for this car and does it void the warranty if I put some
> other rated tires on it? Also, can safety be compromised by just
> putting H-rated tires on this car? *One of the reasons they give me is
> that the H-rated tires have softer sidewalls compared to the v-rated
> ones and cornering can cause safety issues. *I am wondering whether
> there is truly any merit to any of the issues they keep talking about?
> I understand the composition of the different rated tires and how they
> perform, but for a car like Toyota Camry, are they all valid?
>
> Please help. *Thanks
>
> stony


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Old 23 Sep 2009, 09:56 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Sep 18, 11:24*pm, stony <x...@x.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
> crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). *The
> tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
> They say that can void the warranty


Yeah, right. That's BS.

go to
www.tirerack.com
use their web site, esp. customer ratings, to find tires for your car.
You can look up speed ratings to see that your car should be fine with
anything "T" rated or above. You need to know the LOAD rating of the
tires, as this is the safety related issue for your Camry.

you can use The Tire Rack to find an installer in your area who will
install tires sold by tire rack. most independent shops will also
install tires they consider safe, not necessarily OEM tires.

not all Bridgestone tires are crap. I've used Bridgestones on several
cars with fine results. currently I have a set on my Accord.

Happy Motoring
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Old 23 Sep 2009, 11:21 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"ACAR" <gmwohl@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 18, 11:24 pm, stony <x...@x.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 2009 Toy Camry LE (4cyl) that has v-rated tires (bridgestone
>> crap) that have worn out only after 25000 miles (highway miles). The
>> tire stores do not want to put any other tire than a v-rated tire.
>> They say that can void the warranty

>
> Yeah, right. That's BS.
>
> go to
> www.tirerack.com
> use their web site, esp. customer ratings, to find tires for your car.
> You can look up speed ratings to see that your car should be fine with
> anything "T" rated or above. You need to know the LOAD rating of the
> tires, as this is the safety related issue for your Camry.
>
> you can use The Tire Rack to find an installer in your area who will
> install tires sold by tire rack. most independent shops will also
> install tires they consider safe, not necessarily OEM tires.
>
> not all Bridgestone tires are crap. I've used Bridgestones on several
> cars with fine results. currently I have a set on my Accord.
>
> Happy Motoring


Most Accords here are driven by ricer gang members.



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Old 04 Oct 2009, 08:30 am   #9 (permalink)
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"ACAR" <gmwohl@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1cef47b2-14b2-471e-

go to
www.tirerack.com
use their web site, esp. customer ratings, to find tires for your car.
You can look up speed ratings to see that your car should be fine with
anything "T" rated or above. You need to know the LOAD rating of the
tires, as this is the safety related issue for your Camry.

you can use The Tire Rack to find an installer in your area who will
install tires sold by tire rack. most independent shops will also
install tires they consider safe, not necessarily OEM tires.

not all Bridgestone tires are crap. I've used Bridgestones on several
cars with fine results. currently I have a set on my Accord.

Happy Motoring

**********
Well, we have to define "crap". Our Avalon and my new Solara came
with Michelins, but the Avalon wore out these shoes in 30K miles. They
were quiet and had great traction, but that isnt much life for such an
expensive tire.

I researched Tire Rack, and finally came up with a set of Kumho Platinums
rated 168 mph and with expected very long tread life....and cheaper than
the Michelin replacements.

I wouldnt want long life tires if the traction was severely compromised.

But as you suggest, Tire Rack is a great place to compare tires (and
to buy them), and the OP should be able to find something there that
he would be happy with.
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Old 05 Oct 2009, 03:05 am   #10 (permalink)
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stony wrote:

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> I am wondering whether
> there is truly any merit to any of the issues they keep talking about?
> I understand the composition of the different rated tires and how they
> perform, but for a car like Toyota Camry, are they all valid?


Many tire stores will not install tires that are speed rated lower than
the the original tires. It's immaterial to the store that the
manufacturer happened to include tires with a far greater speed rating
than actually necessary, it's their insurance company trying to limit
liability or the store trying to up-sell.

It's rather annoying what Toyota does with Camry tires. I think they're
getting a good deal on the higher speed-rated tires and just putting
them on everything that takes that specific tire size. The long term
implications don't matter to them.

It's the same deal with our 1996 Camry. The factory tires were H rated,
and even though S rated or T rated would be fine, some tire stores won't
install them for liability reasons. I'll soon run into the same issue
on our 2007 Camry with V rated tires.

You can either find a store that doesn't have this policy, or order from
a place like TireRack and pay ridiculously high prices for installation
from one of their installers.
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