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Old 29 Jan 2010, 07:58 am   #1 (permalink)
Hachiroku ハチロク
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Default Something rotten here...

A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
the big industrial ones...

She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.

She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
a 'sticking accelerator'.

Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
enough to crash through a brick wall?

If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.

I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
blamed it on a sticking accelerator?

Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?


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Old 29 Jan 2010, 08:13 am   #2 (permalink)
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On 2010-01-29 05:58:58 -0800, Hachiroku * <Trueno@e86.GTS> said:
> Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
> my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?


Perfect!

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Old 29 Jan 2010, 08:25 am   #3 (permalink)
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:13:32 -0800, Conscience wrote:

> On 2010-01-29 05:58:58 -0800, Hachiroku * <Trueno@e86.GTS> said:
>> Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
>> my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

>
> Perfect!



Highest I hit so far was 120. How fast do you think a sticking accelerator
is good for?

Sure glad I don't own a Lexus. When I do runs to find the top speed, I
like to do it MYSELF!!
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Old 29 Jan 2010, 08:46 am   #4 (permalink)
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Hachiroku * wrote:
> A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
> laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
> the big industrial ones...
>
> She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
> accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
>
> She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
> a 'sticking accelerator'.
>
> Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
> enough to crash through a brick wall?
>


I noticed this too. Sticking throttle would not account for
acceleration. Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
unintended acceleration.

I have had three cars that have had sticking accelerators (well, two
sticking and one failure of the carb return spring). Two were stick
shift, easy enough to react to, it is almost instinctive to declutch.
Now that both of our cars are automatic, we'll see how I react the next
time it happens :-(
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Old 29 Jan 2010, 09:26 am   #5 (permalink)
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:46:06 -0600, Don Stauffer wrote:

> Hachiroku * wrote:
>> A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
>> laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
>> the big industrial ones...
>>
>> She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
>> accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
>>
>> She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
>> a 'sticking accelerator'.
>>
>> Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
>> enough to crash through a brick wall?
>>

>
> I noticed this too. Sticking throttle would not account for
> acceleration. Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid
> unintended acceleration.
>
> I have had three cars that have had sticking accelerators (well, two
> sticking and one failure of the carb return spring). Two were stick
> shift, easy enough to react to, it is almost instinctive to declutch.
> Now that both of our cars are automatic, we'll see how I react the next
> time it happens :-(



Slap it into neutral. NTHSA and Toyota both say, "Let the engine rev until
safe to turn it off."


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Old 29 Jan 2010, 09:55 am   #6 (permalink)
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On 2010-01-29 06:25:23 -0800, Hachiroku * <Trueno@e86.GTS> said:

> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:13:32 -0800, Conscience wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-29 05:58:58 -0800, Hachiroku * <Trueno@e86.GTS> said:
>>> Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
>>> my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?

>>
>> Perfect!

>
>
> Highest I hit so far was 120. How fast do you think a sticking accelerator
> is good for?
>
> Sure glad I don't own a Lexus. When I do runs to find the top speed, I
> like to do it MYSELF!!


I'd say 130 would be a fair level. "Officer, I panicked. It stuck. Really!"

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Old 29 Jan 2010, 10:10 am   #7 (permalink)
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Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS> found these unused words:

>A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
>laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
>the big industrial ones...
>
>She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
>accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
>
>She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
>a 'sticking accelerator'.
>
>Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
>enough to crash through a brick wall?
>
>If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
>
>I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
>Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator.
>I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
>blamed it on a sticking accelerator?
>
>Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
>my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?
>

Of course you can, and the trolls "john" and "Tom" will back you up with the
full weight of Ford and GM.

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Old 29 Jan 2010, 11:24 am   #8 (permalink)
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:53:15 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:

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> However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with
> unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps
> you think Toyota is mistaken?


It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle
does not return to idle.

Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it sticks
there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to crash
through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.



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Old 29 Jan 2010, 11:25 am   #9 (permalink)
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:10:20 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS> found these unused words:
>
>>A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a
>>laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know,
>>the big industrial ones...
>>
>>She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car
>>accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines.
>>
>>She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to
>>a 'sticking accelerator'.
>>
>>Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast
>>enough to crash through a brick wall?
>>
>>If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving.
>>
>>I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong
>>Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator. I
>>wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and
>>blamed it on a sticking accelerator?
>>
>>Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in
>>my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?
>>

> Of course you can, and the trolls "john" and "Tom" will back you up with
> the full weight of Ford and GM.


Why thank you, Sir!

Can I get your support, too?



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Old 29 Jan 2010, 11:27 am   #10 (permalink)
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:55:17 -0800, Conscience wrote:

> On 2010-01-29 06:25:23 -0800, Hachiroku * <Trueno@e86.GTS>
> said:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:13:32 -0800, Conscience wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-01-29 05:58:58 -0800, Hachiroku * <Trueno@e86.GTS>
>>> said:
>>>> Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90
>>>> in my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"?
>>>
>>> Perfect!

>>
>>
>> Highest I hit so far was 120. How fast do you think a sticking
>> accelerator is good for?
>>
>> Sure glad I don't own a Lexus. When I do runs to find the top speed, I
>> like to do it MYSELF!!

>
> I'd say 130 would be a fair level. "Officer, I panicked. It stuck.
> Really!"



Had my '85 "Hachiroku" up to 130. Probably had a little more to go, but
the front felt like it was lifting so I backed down to 125 and stayed
there for a while...

Young and invincible then...

I bet the Scion could get there easily.


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