2000 Camry LE--smell of gas

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Old 19 Aug 2010, 02:26 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2000 Camry LE--smell of gas

Recently, my Camry has had its check engine light on, at the same
time, whenever the car was just shut off, a strong smell of raw gas
would be coming from the car. I had the light checked to find out it
was P0401, Exhaust gas flow insufficient. I don't know if these
problems are related or another problem persists. My gas mileage has
plummeted from around 700 kms/tank to about 500 kms/tank. I don't
smell gas befroe driving the car, just after. Checked for leaks, non
to be found. ANy help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 19 Aug 2010, 05:28 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"camryguy" <anthonyzadeh@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Recently, my Camry has had its check engine light on, at the same
> time, whenever the car was just shut off, a strong smell of raw gas
> would be coming from the car. I had the light checked to find out it
> was P0401, Exhaust gas flow insufficient. I don't know if these
> problems are related or another problem persists. My gas mileage has
> plummeted from around 700 kms/tank to about 500 kms/tank. I don't
> smell gas befroe driving the car, just after. Checked for leaks, non
> to be found. ANy help is greatly appreciated.


Have a look
http://www.obd-codes.com/forums/view...php?f=1&t=4429

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Old 20 Aug 2010, 03:33 am   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I am now
getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.

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Old 20 Aug 2010, 06:46 am   #4 (permalink)
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"camryguy" <anthonyzadeh@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3acd71d1-e025-4816-9501-78c178076a23@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I am now
> getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
> told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
> checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
> investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
> cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
> Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
> keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
> another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
> it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.


Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I've heard of
this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tank could
explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are in an
area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
hole.

Ed


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Old 20 Aug 2010, 08:43 am   #5 (permalink)
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On Aug 20, 8:46*am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3acd71d1-e025-4816-9501-78c178076a23@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I am now
> > getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
> > told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
> > checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
> > investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
> > cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
> > Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
> > keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
> > another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
> > it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.

>
> Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I've heardof
> this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tank could
> explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are in an
> area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
> hole.
>
> Ed


Hi Ed, I am in an area where rust is a problem, Nova Scotia, Canada,
but I do believe, if I'm not mistaken that my Camry has a plastic Gas
tank. However, I will investigate just to be sure. Thanks for the
reply!
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Old 20 Aug 2010, 03:50 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Aug 20, 8:43*am, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 8:46*am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:3acd71d1-e025-4816-9501-78c178076a23@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I am now
> > > getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
> > > told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
> > > checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
> > > investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
> > > cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
> > > Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
> > > keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
> > > another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
> > > it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.

>
> > Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I've heard of
> > this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tank could
> > explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are inan
> > area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
> > hole.

>
> > Ed

>
> Hi Ed, I am in an area where rust is a problem, Nova Scotia, Canada,
> but I do believe, if I'm not mistaken that my Camry has a plastic Gas
> tank. However, I will investigate just to be sure. Thanks for the
> reply!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I had a gas line go, I simply spliced in a rubber line, I cant see
anyone using plastic, in an accident it will just crack
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Old 20 Aug 2010, 05:50 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Aug 20, 5:50*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 8:43*am, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 20, 8:46*am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> > > "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> > >news:3acd71d1-e025-4816-9501-78c178076a23@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com....

>
> > > > Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I am now
> > > > getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
> > > > told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
> > > > checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
> > > > investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
> > > > cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube..
> > > > Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
> > > > keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
> > > > another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
> > > > it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.

>
> > > Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I've heard of
> > > this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tank could
> > > explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are in an
> > > area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
> > > hole.

>
> > > Ed

>
> > Hi Ed, I am in an area where rust is a problem, Nova Scotia, Canada,
> > but I do believe, if I'm not mistaken that my Camry has a plastic Gas
> > tank. However, I will investigate just to be sure. Thanks for the
> > reply!- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> I had a gas line go, I simply spliced in a rubber line, I cant see
> anyone using plastic, in an accident it will just crack


Yes your right...after further inspection, the gas tank is metal, just
black. I assumed with it being black that it was plastic, but you know
what they say about assuming.
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Old 20 Aug 2010, 06:07 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Aug 20, 5:50*pm, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 5:50*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 20, 8:43*am, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Aug 20, 8:46*am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> > > > "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> > > >news:3acd71d1-e025-4816-9501-78c178076a23@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > > > Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I am now
> > > > > getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
> > > > > told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
> > > > > checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
> > > > > investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened upthe
> > > > > cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
> > > > > Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
> > > > > keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
> > > > > another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
> > > > > it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself..

>
> > > > Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I'veheard of
> > > > this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tank could
> > > > explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are in an
> > > > area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
> > > > hole.

>
> > > > Ed

>
> > > Hi Ed, I am in an area where rust is a problem, Nova Scotia, Canada,
> > > but I do believe, if I'm not mistaken that my Camry has a plastic Gas
> > > tank. However, I will investigate just to be sure. Thanks for the
> > > reply!- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > I had a gas line go, I simply spliced in a rubber line, I cant see
> > anyone using plastic, in an accident it will just crack

>
> Yes your right...after further inspection, the gas tank is metal, just
> black. I assumed with it being black that it was plastic, but you know
> what they say about assuming.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Epoxy could fix a leak
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Old 20 Aug 2010, 10:15 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Aug 20, 8:07*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 5:50*pm, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 20, 5:50*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Aug 20, 8:43*am, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Aug 20, 8:46*am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> > > > >news:3acd71d1-e025-4816-9501-78c178076a23@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > > > > Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I amnow
> > > > > > getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
> > > > > > told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
> > > > > > checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
> > > > > > investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
> > > > > > cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
> > > > > > Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas capwill
> > > > > > keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated.. On
> > > > > > another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
> > > > > > it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.

>
> > > > > Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I've heard of
> > > > > this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tankcould
> > > > > explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are in an
> > > > > area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
> > > > > hole.

>
> > > > > Ed

>
> > > > Hi Ed, I am in an area where rust is a problem, Nova Scotia, Canada,
> > > > but I do believe, if I'm not mistaken that my Camry has a plastic Gas
> > > > tank. However, I will investigate just to be sure. Thanks for the
> > > > reply!- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > I had a gas line go, I simply spliced in a rubber line, I cant see
> > > anyone using plastic, in an accident it will just crack

>
> > Yes your right...after further inspection, the gas tank is metal, just
> > black. I assumed with it being black that it was plastic, but you know
> > what they say about assuming.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Epoxy could fix a leak


I don't think I have a leak, just not a tight fit on the gas cap. I
bought a new gas cap about a month ago to no avail. I can't seem to
find any leaks under the car. The only place where I can smell gas is
up by the fuel door. I have been under the car checking all afternoon.
The only thing I can think is that there is a small warp in the filler
nozzle. There is rust forming on the inside of the filler neck. Oxygen
is getting in somewhere, but where is beyond me. I may have to invest
in a new filler neck. And a VSV switch. Love the car, hate the
problems!
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Old 21 Aug 2010, 03:57 am   #10 (permalink)
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On Aug 20, 10:15*pm, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 8:07*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 20, 5:50*pm, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Aug 20, 5:50*pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Aug 20, 8:43*am, camryguy <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > On Aug 20, 8:46*am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > > "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> > > > > >news:3acd71d1-e025-4816-9501-78c178076a23@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > > > > > Ok, an update, ran the scanner, and addition to the P0401, I am now
> > > > > > > getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
> > > > > > > told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't.I
> > > > > > > checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
> > > > > > > investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
> > > > > > > cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
> > > > > > > Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
> > > > > > > keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
> > > > > > > another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
> > > > > > > it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.

>
> > > > > > Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I've heard of
> > > > > > this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tank could
> > > > > > explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are in an
> > > > > > area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
> > > > > > hole.

>
> > > > > > Ed

>
> > > > > Hi Ed, I am in an area where rust is a problem, Nova Scotia, Canada,
> > > > > but I do believe, if I'm not mistaken that my Camry has a plasticGas
> > > > > tank. However, I will investigate just to be sure. Thanks for the
> > > > > reply!- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > I had a gas line go, I simply spliced in a rubber line, I cant see
> > > > anyone using plastic, in an accident it will just crack

>
> > > Yes your right...after further inspection, the gas tank is metal, just
> > > black. I assumed with it being black that it was plastic, but you know
> > > what they say about assuming.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > Epoxy could fix a leak

>
> I don't think I have a leak, just not a tight fit on the gas cap. I
> bought a new gas cap about a month ago to no avail. I can't seem to
> find any leaks under the car. The only place where I can smell gas is
> up by the fuel door. I have been under the car checking all afternoon.
> The only thing I can think is that there is a small warp in the filler
> nozzle. There is rust forming on the inside of the filler neck. Oxygen
> is getting in somewhere, but where is beyond me. I may have to invest
> in a new filler neck. And a VSV switch. Love the car, hate the
> problems!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Take a gas cap, drill a hole in it and glue in a fitting that fits a
air hose, pressurise it to 10 lb with a tire filler and listen for the
leak. The check engine light is from the leak. On mine the lines
rusted under the plastic cover of the rocker panel, my lines were
rusted the length of the car, the brake lines run the same area, if
the lines are rusted and leaking there then the brake lines are NEXT
to fail and need to be done before they Fail while driving, mine
failed while driving and i had an accident, thats a bad situation you
dont want.
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