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Old 11 Feb 2010, 08:29 pm   #1 (permalink)
john
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Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. I wonder if there will be
charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did
in the Mitsubishi case.

"For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards

Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s
U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that
someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause
injuries, or worse, to the company's customers.

Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed
Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of
covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including
its former president, had been arrested and charged."

From The Detroit News:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz0fHiJSPza
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 08:04 am   #2 (permalink)
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In article
<b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3@k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
john <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. I wonder if there will be
> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did
> in the Mitsubishi case.
>
> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards
>
> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s
> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that
> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause
> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers.
>
> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed
> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of
> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including
> its former president, had been arrested and charged."
>
> From The Detroit News:
> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...48/auto01/Toyo
> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza


My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite
a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another
Toyota without question.
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 10:15 am   #3 (permalink)
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"dbu''" <nospam@nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:Mq-dnXvUWNF6wujWnZ2dnUVZ_gRi4p2d@giganews.com...
> In article
> <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3@k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> john <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. I wonder if there will be
>> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did
>> in the Mitsubishi case.
>>
>> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards
>>
>> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s
>> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that
>> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause
>> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers.
>>
>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed
>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of
>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including
>> its former president, had been arrested and charged."
>>
>> From The Detroit News:
>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...48/auto01/Toyo
>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza

>
> My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite
> a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another
> Toyota without question.
> --
>

Yep me too. After all, I have much more confidence in hardware built by
Toyota, and ECU software written by Toyota than if it were built/written by
Microsoft. (or GM)


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Old 12 Feb 2010, 10:21 am   #4 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:15:27 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>"dbu''" <nospam@nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:Mq-dnXvUWNF6wujWnZ2dnUVZ_gRi4p2d@giganews.com...
>> In article
>> <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3@k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
>> john <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. I wonder if there will be
>>> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did
>>> in the Mitsubishi case.
>>>
>>> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards
>>>
>>> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s
>>> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that
>>> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause
>>> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers.
>>>
>>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed
>>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of
>>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including
>>> its former president, had been arrested and charged."
>>>
>>> From The Detroit News:
>>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...48/auto01/Toyo
>>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza

>>
>> My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite
>> a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another
>> Toyota without question.
>> --
>>

>Yep me too. After all, I have much more confidence in hardware built by
>Toyota, and ECU software written by Toyota than if it were built/written by
>Microsoft. (or GM)
>


And I like La Villa thin crust, cheese and sausage.
It's harder finding good thin crust than a good car.

--Vic
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Old 12 Feb 2010, 12:09 pm   #5 (permalink)
Ed Maier
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On 2/12/2010 8:04 AM, dbu'' wrote:
> In article
> <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3@k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> john<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. I wonder if there will be
>> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did
>> in the Mitsubishi case.
>>
>> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards
>>
>> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s
>> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that
>> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause
>> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers.
>>
>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed
>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of
>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including
>> its former president, had been arrested and charged."
>>
>> From The Detroit News:
>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...48/auto01/Toyo
>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza

>
> My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite
> a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another
> Toyota without question.


Same here. My wife and I have owned a '52 Plymouth, '60 VW Bug, '62
Corvair Monza, '65 Mustang conv. 289 CID 4 speed, '69 Grand Torino, '74
Gremlin, '79 Pinto Cruising Wagon, '84(?) Bronco II, '89(?) Saturn, '91
Camry, '?? T-Bird, '99 Mazda Tribute, '2004 4Runner, 2004 Highlander,
and a 2008 Avalon. Couple of others in that mix I don't remember. The
Toyotas were the least troublesome by far.

Ed Maier


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Old 12 Feb 2010, 06:30 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:09:30 -0600, Ed Maier wrote:

> Same here. My wife and I have owned a '52 Plymouth, '60 VW Bug, '62
> Corvair Monza,


You, uh, don't still have this, do you...?


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Old 12 Feb 2010, 06:32 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:04:22 -0600, dbu'' wrote:

> In article
> <b11522a6-0228-4f0e-b59d-a22b55130eb3@k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> john <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yoshi Inaba sounds like a clairvoyant. I wonder if there will be
>> charges and arrests in the Toyota case as the Japanese government did
>> in the Mitsubishi case.
>>
>> "For years, warning signs have clashed with its touted high standards
>>
>> Five years ago, Yoshi Inaba, then president of Toyota Motor Corp.'s
>> U.S. sales operations, disclosed his biggest fear. It was that
>> someday, some flaw in Toyota vehicles might go undetected and cause
>> injuries, or worse, to the company's customers.
>>
>> Inaba was perhaps thinking of a huge scandal that had just engulfed
>> Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a smaller Japanese carmaker accused of
>> covering up defects for years. Top Mitsubishi executives, including
>> its former president, had been arrested and charged."
>>
>> From The Detroit News:
>> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...48/auto01/Toyo
>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza

>
> My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite
> a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another
> Toyota without question.



Yup. Same here. Will not hesitate to buy another Toy, that is, if they
have what I want.

I'm thinking the next one might be a S00B, AWD wagon, unless Toyota either
puts the XRs engine back in the AWD Matrix, or brings back the Celica...


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Old 12 Feb 2010, 06:34 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:21:52 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:15:27 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net>
> wrote:


>>Yep me too. After all, I have much more confidence in hardware built by
>>Toyota, and ECU software written by Toyota than if it were built/written by
>>Microsoft. (or GM)
>>

>
> And I like La Villa thin crust, cheese and sausage.
> It's harder finding good thin crust than a good car.
>
> --Vic



That did it, Vic...Now I know you're a whacko!

Either that, or a Neopolitano.

I'm Italian thanks to a half Italian mother. She likes the thin crust,
whereas I like Sicilian, great big crust like you're chewing on half a
loaf of bread.

I also like clam sauce with my spaghetti...



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Old 12 Feb 2010, 07:49 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On 2/12/2010 6:30 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:09:30 -0600, Ed Maier wrote:
>
>> Same here. My wife and I have owned a '52 Plymouth, '60 VW Bug, '62
>> Corvair Monza,

>
> You, uh, don't still have this, do you...?
>
>


God no.

Ed Maier


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Old 12 Feb 2010, 08:24 pm   #10 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:49:35 -0600, Ed Maier wrote:

> On 2/12/2010 6:30 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:09:30 -0600, Ed Maier wrote:
>>
>>> Same here. My wife and I have owned a '52 Plymouth, '60 VW Bug, '62
>>> Corvair Monza,

>>
>> You, uh, don't still have this, do you...?
>>
>>
>>

> God no.
>
> Ed Maier


Why?!? Those were cool little cars. I had a '66, three on the...er...yeah.

It's problems were more than my technical capabilities at the time.

However, if I had it now, I would have one cool Corvair.
(I live about 10 miles from the place in Mass that remanufactures Corvair
parts...)



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