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Old 12 Feb 2010, 10:32 pm   #1 (permalink)
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:

> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>
> Oh, boy...



Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...

By now, we’ve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
(it’s somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
the front propeller shaft.

Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.

The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
process of the front prop shaft.

The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December 2009
to early Feb. 2010.


DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?

If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
preferred suppliers.


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Old 12 Feb 2010, 11:42 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On 02/12/2010 08:32 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:
>
>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>
>> Oh, boy...

>
>
> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>
> By now, we’ve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
> (it’s somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
> the front propeller shaft.
>
> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>
> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
> process of the front prop shaft.
>
> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December 2009
> to early Feb. 2010.
>
>
> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>
> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
> preferred suppliers.
>
>


hopefully toyota will have learned their lesson - don't trust domestic
suppliers.

actually, two lessons: make sure your competition doesn't spend more on
political donations than you do!

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Old 13 Feb 2010, 12:00 am   #3 (permalink)
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:42:39 -0800, jim beam wrote:

> On 02/12/2010 08:32 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:
>>
>>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>>
>>> Oh, boy...

>>
>>
>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>>
>> By now, we’ve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
>> (it’s somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
>> the front propeller shaft.
>>
>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>>
>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
>> process of the front prop shaft.
>>
>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December
>> 2009 to early Feb. 2010.
>>
>>
>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>>
>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
>> preferred suppliers.
>>
>>
>>

> hopefully toyota will have learned their lesson - don't trust domestic
> suppliers.


I thought CTS was going to be under close scrutiny, but I think Dana is
toast! This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
Tacoma...

Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
rot prematurely!

This recall 'only' affects 8,000 vehicles, but I bet the guys at Dana are
sweating bullets...

>
> actually, two lessons: make sure your competition doesn't spend more on
> political donations than you do!



Yeah, that too. I particularly liked the ads Chevrolet dealers were
running that said, We'll give you $1,000 more than book value!

Sure! Why the hell not? It's *OUR* money!!!


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Old 13 Feb 2010, 06:12 am   #4 (permalink)
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On Feb 12, 10:32 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
> > I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
> > propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)

>
> > Oh, boy...

>
> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>
> By now, we$B!G(Bve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
> (it$B!G(Bs somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
> the front propeller shaft.
>
> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>
> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
> process of the front prop shaft.
>
> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December 2009
> to early Feb. 2010.
>
> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>
> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
> preferred suppliers.


Toyota , on its way to 10,000,000 recalls, Toyota hires retired-former
NHTSA employees, they help squash many investigations that would have
led to RECALLS. Toyota knew about accererator issues in 2003, just
wait this might top 20,000,000 , Twenty Million, is its over?. And you
lamely blame Dana on a few, now thats Lame. Toyotas whole modus has
been "dont tell" anybody. They should hit toy with a Ten Billion
dollar fine.
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Old 13 Feb 2010, 09:07 am   #5 (permalink)
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On 02/13/2010 04:12 AM, ransley wrote:
> On Feb 12, 10:32 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B<Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)

>>
>>> Oh, boy...

>>
>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>>
>> By now, we$B!G(Bve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
>> (it$B!G(Bs somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
>> the front propeller shaft.
>>
>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>>
>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
>> process of the front prop shaft.
>>
>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December 2009
>> to early Feb. 2010.
>>
>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>>
>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
>> preferred suppliers.

>
> Toyota , on its way to 10,000,000 recalls, Toyota hires retired-former
> NHTSA employees, they help squash many investigations that would have
> led to RECALLS. Toyota knew about accererator issues in 2003, just
> wait this might top 20,000,000 , Twenty Million, is its over?. And you
> lamely blame Dana on a few, now thats Lame. Toyotas whole modus has
> been "dont tell" anybody. They should hit toy with a Ten Billion
> dollar fine.


so toyota, with their VOLUNTARY recall, and who have a grand total of 2
fatality crashes vaguely implicated in the throttle pedal problem, both
of which could have been prevented by a DRIVER capable of shifting the
transmission to neutral, using the brakes, or even [surprise!] switching
the engine off, should be fined. but frod, who killed literally
hundreds with all their non-recalled problems like suv's that roll just
because of a flat, should be given a pat on the back and a cookie before
they go to bed with your money? you're either a freakin' retard, or
you're a paid detroit whore.

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Old 13 Feb 2010, 09:16 am   #6 (permalink)
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On 02/13/2010 07:07 AM, jim beam wrote:
> On 02/13/2010 04:12 AM, ransley wrote:
>> On Feb 12, 10:32 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B<Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>>>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>>>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>>
>>>> Oh, boy...
>>>
>>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>>>
>>> By now, we$B!G(Bve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
>>> (it$B!G(Bs somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a
>>> Toyota
>>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
>>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
>>> the front propeller shaft.
>>>
>>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
>>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>>>
>>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
>>> process of the front prop shaft.
>>>
>>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December
>>> 2009
>>> to early Feb. 2010.
>>>
>>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>>>
>>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
>>> preferred suppliers.

>>
>> Toyota , on its way to 10,000,000 recalls, Toyota hires retired-former
>> NHTSA employees, they help squash many investigations that would have
>> led to RECALLS. Toyota knew about accererator issues in 2003, just
>> wait this might top 20,000,000 , Twenty Million, is its over?. And you
>> lamely blame Dana on a few, now thats Lame. Toyotas whole modus has
>> been "dont tell" anybody. They should hit toy with a Ten Billion
>> dollar fine.

>
> so toyota, with their VOLUNTARY recall, and who have a grand total of 2
> fatality crashes vaguely implicated in the throttle pedal problem, both
> of which could have been prevented by a DRIVER capable of shifting the
> transmission to neutral, using the brakes, or even [surprise!] switching
> the engine off, should be fined. but frod, who killed literally hundreds
> with all their non-recalled problems like suv's that roll just because
> of a flat, should be given a pat on the back and a cookie before they go
> to bed with your money? you're either a freakin' retard, or you're a
> paid detroit whore.
>


oh look, your ip address, 68.77.18.140, is registered in chicago! just
a quick ride on the 94 to your client's office.

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Old 13 Feb 2010, 05:08 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On 02/13/2010 12:54 PM, Mike Hunter wrote:
> Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and
> Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan


that's utter bullshit. /any/ steel conforming to spec will do.

and DO NOT cut out the cross-postings other people have used.


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> "Hachiroku"<Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:12:27 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> (Cross posting deleted, automatically)
>>>
>>> Why would Dana be sweating? The problem is in the steel that is made by
>>> Nippon LOL

>>
>> Then why is it only US made trucks?
>>

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Old 13 Feb 2010, 05:22 pm   #8 (permalink)
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In message <D4ednbEvVo-erOrWnZ2dnUVZ_qdi4p2d@speakeasy.net>, jim beam
<me@privacy.net> writes
>>>>Why would Dana be sweating? The problem is in the steel that is made by
>>>> Nippon LOL

As I said in another post, it's never the fault of the Merkins it's
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Old 13 Feb 2010, 05:56 pm   #9 (permalink)
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jim beam wrote:
>
> On 02/13/2010 12:54 PM, Mike Hunter wrote:
> > Get real! Nippon makes the steel Dana is required to use by Toyota and
> > Lexus models that are being recalled are made in Japan

>
> that's utter bullshit. /any/ steel conforming to spec will do.


Nope not BS. First of all the part in question is not made of steel,
but Ductile Iron and it isn't made by DANA or Toyota but is cast at
various US foundries. The particular iron alloy is indeed made in Japan
and supplied to the foundries. This is standard practice for Honda and
Toyota to supply the foundries with the iron alloy ingot.
From the sounds of it Dana identified a particular batch of castings
that were bad (Dana said that less than 2% of the parts shipped had the
defect)

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Old 13 Feb 2010, 06:19 pm   #10 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku ハチ*ク" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
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>....This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
> Tacoma...
>
> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
> rot prematurely!


Dana makes frames for lots of companies. Why does it seem only the Toyota
frames are so bad there are recalls for them?

Google the following:
* rusting Toyota frame recall - 3,420,000 hits
* rusting Ford frame recall - 478,000 hits, and most were actually talking
about the Toyota rusting frames
* rusting Chevrolet frame recall - 1,840,00 hits, and again most of them
were actually talking about Rusting Toyota frames

Try it for yourself...

Given the fact that Ford and Chevrolet have each sold more than 10 times as
many trucks as Toyota, don't you think if they had the same sort of problem
with rusting frames, there be more complaints about them on the internet?

You guys need to quit drinking the Toyota kool-aid. They have repeatedly
shown disregard for there Customer and have to be dragged kicking and
screaming into doing the right thing.

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