2012 Camry: Eyesore under the hood

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Old 11 Feb 2012, 08:50 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2012 Camry: Eyesore under the hood

Recently looked at some 2012 Camrys at a local Toyota dealer and was
somewhat shocked to see that none of the power plants had an exhaust
manifold shield/cover. While the average Joe/Jane probably wouldn't
notice anything amiss, this was the first thing I noticed after
popping the hood.

The salesman claimed that they rattled over time so Toyota had stopped
using them. A head mechanic said that they did have covers originally
but the upstream O2 sensors had to be replaced with longer ones and so
the covers could no longer fit.

Here is a picture of the 2012 Camry power plant showing the unsightly
area;

http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424437/original

Here is a picture of a 1996 Camry power plant;

http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424442/original
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Old 11 Feb 2012, 08:52 am   #2 (permalink)
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Default 2012 Camry: Eyesore under the hood

Recently looked at some 2012 Camrys at a local Toyota dealer and was
somewhat shocked to see that none of the power plants had an exhaust
manifold shield/cover. While the average Joe/Jane probably wouldn't
notice anything amiss, this was the first thing I noticed after
popping the hood.

The salesman claimed that they rattled over time so Toyota had stopped
using them. A head mechanic said that they did have covers originally
but the upstream O2 sensors had to be replaced with longer ones and so
the covers could no longer fit.

Here is a picture of the 2012 Camry power plant showing the unsightly
area;

http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424437/original

Here is a picture of a 1996 Camry power plant;

http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424442/original
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Old 11 Feb 2012, 10:46 am   #3 (permalink)
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"oparr@hotmail.com" <oparr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Recently looked at some 2012 Camrys at a local Toyota dealer and was
> somewhat shocked to see that none of the power plants had an exhaust
> manifold shield/cover. While the average Joe/Jane probably wouldn't
> notice anything amiss, this was the first thing I noticed after
> popping the hood.
>
> The salesman claimed that they rattled over time so Toyota had stopped
> using them. A head mechanic said that they did have covers originally
> but the upstream O2 sensors had to be replaced with longer ones and so
> the covers could no longer fit.
>
> Here is a picture of the 2012 Camry power plant showing the unsightly
> area;
>
> http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424437/original
>
> Here is a picture of a 1996 Camry power plant;
>
> http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424442/original


$$$$$$.

Who cares what it looks like under the hood. It's amazing that they
haven't locked the hood yet with a Toyota-proprietary lock.

Face it, anything can be engineered. But it comes down to the value;
does it pay off to engineer that piece?

Me, I'd rather they keep that money and put it into engineering
something substantial--engine, tranny, suspension, better materials for
the interior, whatever.

Let's look at it this way: Toyota custs costs by getting rid of that
shield. VW cuts costs by turning their bread and butter Passat and
Jetta overall into utter pieces of shit designed to last the length of
the warranty and no longer. Pieces of shit that look uglier than hell
and that, when you sit in them, feel like a 1980s GM car.

In five years, we'll see who did the better job of cutting costs while
keeping customers happy and sales up.
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Old 11 Feb 2012, 01:29 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Feb 11, 10:46*am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
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>Who cares what it looks like under the hood.
>


Me, obviously.
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Old 11 Feb 2012, 02:24 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Feb 11, 5:50*am, "op...@hotmail.com" <op...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Recently looked at some 2012 Camrys at a local Toyota dealer and was
> somewhat shocked to see that none of the power plants had an exhaust
> manifold shield/cover. While the average Joe/Jane probably wouldn't
> notice anything amiss, this was the first thing I noticed after
> popping the hood.
>
> The salesman claimed that they rattled over time so Toyota had stopped
> using them. A head mechanic said that they did have covers originally
> but the upstream O2 sensors had to be replaced with longer ones and so
> the covers could no longer fit.
>
> Here is a picture of the 2012 Camry power plant showing the unsightly
> area;
>
> http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424437/original
>
> Here is a picture of a 1996 Camry power plant;
>
> http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424442/original



Interesting! I think the '02 Sienna has a similar issue. I thought
the shield was just missing, since I'd bought it used, but... that
explains it!
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Old 11 Feb 2012, 03:02 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"oparr@hotmail.com" <oparr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 11, 10:46*am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >Who cares what it looks like under the hood.
> >

>
> Me, obviously.


more importantly, why?

Are you honestly saying the lack of such a shield would stop you from
buying the car???

Are you really THAT shallow?

And to think you're allowed to vote.
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Old 11 Feb 2012, 06:39 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Feb 11, 3:02*pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
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> more importantly, why?
>
> Are you honestly saying the lack of such a shield would stop you from
> buying the car???
>
> Are you really THAT shallow?
>
> And to think you're allowed to vote.


Waste of time.

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Old 11 Feb 2012, 06:53 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On 2/11/2012 5:50 AM, oparr@hotmail.com wrote:
> Recently looked at some 2012 Camrys at a local Toyota dealer and was
> somewhat shocked to see that none of the power plants had an exhaust
> manifold shield/cover. While the average Joe/Jane probably wouldn't
> notice anything amiss, this was the first thing I noticed after
> popping the hood.
>
> The salesman claimed that they rattled over time so Toyota had stopped
> using them. A head mechanic said that they did have covers originally
> but the upstream O2 sensors had to be replaced with longer ones and so
> the covers could no longer fit.
>
> Here is a picture of the 2012 Camry power plant showing the unsightly
> area;
>
> http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424437/original
>
> Here is a picture of a 1996 Camry power plant;
>
> http://www.pbase.com/eldata/image/141424442/original


They probably didn't receive the shields that would fit in time for the
production. It looks like there are places to mount the shield. Maybe
the 2013s will have it.

Of course the salesman has an excuse for every decontenting. I remember
when folding outside mirrors were dropped on the U.S. Camry's and they
said that they created more wind noise. Yet the Camry's sold in other
countries continued to have folding mirrors, sometimes automatically
folding mirrors.

Definitely you want to wait until they get the exhaust manifold shields
on there.
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Old 11 Feb 2012, 06:55 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Feb 11, 2:24*pm, Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Interesting! *I think the '02 Sienna has a similar issue. *I thought
> the shield was just missing, since I'd bought it used, but... that
> explains it!
>


Someone in another forum told me that Toyota leaves them off for one
reason or another from time to time. They get away with it because
most people don't really care. My 1997 Camry had one and the 2009
Camry I turned in also had one...Hence my disgust with the 2012.

That missing shield is completely incommensurate with the rest of the
car. Furthermore, the manifold is going to discolor and rust over time
and make the power plant look like an even worse POS.


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Old 11 Feb 2012, 07:03 pm   #10 (permalink)
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In article
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"oparr@hotmail.com" <oparr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> That missing shield is completely incommensurate with the rest of the
> car. Furthermore, the manifold is going to discolor and rust over time
> and make the power plant look like an even worse POS.


That manifold is going to discolor and rust over time no matter what.
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