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Old 08 Jul 2003, 11:46 am   #1 (permalink)
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Had freon refilled on my 89 camry at the shop. A/C worked fine for a day.
The next day it was back to not working again. Seems like a leak some where
in the line. Any hints on locating the leak?


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Old 08 Jul 2003, 12:24 pm   #2 (permalink)
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they should have put a dye in the freon
to find the leak. Looks like they want
you back again and again...$
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Old 08 Jul 2003, 01:50 pm   #3 (permalink)
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>camry_owner wrote:
> Had freon refilled on my 89 camry at the shop. A/C worked fine for a
> day. The next day it was back to not working again. Seems like a leak
> some where in the line. Any hints on locating the leak?


You paid money to a shop, it's up to them to account for their
oversight.
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Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)



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Old 08 Jul 2003, 02:57 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >camry_owner wrote:
> > Had freon refilled on my 89 camry at the shop. A/C worked fine for a
> > day. The next day it was back to not working again. Seems like a leak
> > some where in the line. Any hints on locating the leak?

>
> You paid money to a shop, it's up to them to account for their
> oversight.
> --
>
> Philip



Freon was banned by a number of countries due the ozone layer depletion. Has
the US taken a head in the sand over this?

Jason (where we live very close to the Ozone-hole UV feed point)


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Old 08 Jul 2003, 05:53 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"Jason James" <stratosphere2@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Freon was banned by a number of countries due the ozone layer depletion. Has
> the US taken a head in the sand over this?


Freon is a trademark. The production of number of CFC-based refrigerants were
banned in the U.S. beginning in 1995.

http://www.epa.gov/reg3artd/ozonelayer/refbus.htm

Like you, we're hoping that the hole in the ozone layer will start to heal, soon.


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Old 08 Jul 2003, 07:48 pm   #6 (permalink)
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>Jason James wrote:
> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:GnEOa.34519$C83.2895081@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
>>> camry_owner wrote:
>>> Had freon refilled on my 89 camry at the shop. A/C worked fine for a
>>> day. The next day it was back to not working again. Seems like a
>>> leak some where in the line. Any hints on locating the leak?

>>
>> You paid money to a shop, it's up to them to account for their
>> oversight.
>> --
>>
>> Philip

>
>
> Freon was banned by a number of countries due the ozone layer
> depletion. Has the US taken a head in the sand over this?
>
> Jason (where we live very close to the Ozone-hole UV feed point)


Jason: Do get up to speed yourself. We (America) have been using R134a
since 1993 and R12 is still available at a PREMIUM price thru licensed
automotive repair facilities. There is also an R-12 replacement that
meets EPA regs. Oh... that ozone hole... jet trails are good for making
the hole smaller. LOL

http://www.freon-replacements.com/

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Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)


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Old 08 Jul 2003, 08:35 pm   #7 (permalink)
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"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >Jason James wrote:
> > "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:GnEOa.34519$C83.2895081@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> >>> camry_owner wrote:
> >>> Had freon refilled on my 89 camry at the shop. A/C worked fine for a
> >>> day. The next day it was back to not working again. Seems like a
> >>> leak some where in the line. Any hints on locating the leak?
> >>
> >> You paid money to a shop, it's up to them to account for their
> >> oversight.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Philip

> >
> >
> > Freon was banned by a number of countries due the ozone layer
> > depletion. Has the US taken a head in the sand over this?
> >
> > Jason (where we live very close to the Ozone-hole UV feed point)

>
> Jason: Do get up to speed yourself. We (America) have been using R134a
> since 1993 and R12 is still available at a PREMIUM price thru licensed
> automotive repair facilities. There is also an R-12 replacement that
> meets EPA regs. Oh... that ozone hole... jet trails are good for making
> the hole smaller. LOL


R12 was banned about 8 yrs ago here. Flouro-carbon cleaning and propellants
about the same time.

Apparently, while flouro-carbons perform well as a refridgerant (low boiling
point, a gas at atmospheric prssure) many other liquids under pressure
perform reasonabley well, though not as well at the price or safety.

Jason ( just as the use of R12 has been curbed, the Chinese start buying
fridges as affluence increases)


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Old 08 Jul 2003, 09:53 pm   #8 (permalink)
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When true science (not junk science) is used, there is no clear evidence
that there is a danger to ozone layer regardless what we humans do.
"Jason James" <stratosphere2@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:fDJOa.35208$C83.2935549@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > >Jason James wrote:
> > > "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GnEOa.34519$C83.2895081@newsread1.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > >>> camry_owner wrote:
> > >>> Had freon refilled on my 89 camry at the shop. A/C worked fine for a
> > >>> day. The next day it was back to not working again. Seems like a
> > >>> leak some where in the line. Any hints on locating the leak?
> > >>
> > >> You paid money to a shop, it's up to them to account for their
> > >> oversight.
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Philip
> > >
> > >
> > > Freon was banned by a number of countries due the ozone layer
> > > depletion. Has the US taken a head in the sand over this?
> > >
> > > Jason (where we live very close to the Ozone-hole UV feed point)

> >
> > Jason: Do get up to speed yourself. We (America) have been using R134a
> > since 1993 and R12 is still available at a PREMIUM price thru licensed
> > automotive repair facilities. There is also an R-12 replacement that
> > meets EPA regs. Oh... that ozone hole... jet trails are good for making
> > the hole smaller. LOL

>
> R12 was banned about 8 yrs ago here. Flouro-carbon cleaning and

propellants
> about the same time.
>
> Apparently, while flouro-carbons perform well as a refridgerant (low

boiling
> point, a gas at atmospheric prssure) many other liquids under pressure
> perform reasonabley well, though not as well at the price or safety.
>
> Jason ( just as the use of R12 has been curbed, the Chinese start buying
> fridges as affluence increases)
>
>



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Old 09 Jul 2003, 01:19 am   #9 (permalink)
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>Jack wrote:
> When true science (not junk science) is used, there is no clear
> evidence that there is a danger to ozone layer regardless what we
> humans do. "Jason James" <stratosphere2@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:jZJOa.4854$oN.203727@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...


The problem with R12 production is that applying heat to R12 creates
phosgene gas ... a deadly nerve gas used back in WWII. Do we need to
talk about that?
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)





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Old 09 Jul 2003, 07:21 pm   #10 (permalink)
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"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> writes:

> Jack wrote:
>
>> When true science (not junk science) is used, there is no clear
>> evidence that there is a danger to ozone layer regardless what we
>> humans do.

>
> The problem with R12 production is that applying heat to R12 creates
> phosgene gas ... a deadly nerve gas used back in WWII. Do we need to
> talk about that?


I'm all for it if it leads to another verification of Godwin's Law.


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