Use of a non-key in modern cars.

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Old 05 May 2012, 11:07 pm   #1 (permalink)
micky
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Default Use of a non-key in modern cars.

Not a question so far, but a "helpful-hint".

I have a new-to-me 2000 Toyota Solara. When I wanted a copy of my car
key cut on a standard non-electronic blank, the old guy at Home Depot
gave me a hard time. I wasn't sure why I wanted one, but I was sure
I did. (Maybe two.)

Finally in arguing with him, I came up with that a) it would enable me
to get into the car or trunk, and b) I might end up hiding a
full-function key there. .

Today I came up with a third and better reason. I lost my cell phone
and want to go back to using my previous cell phone, which has been
sitting without a sim card in my trunk with its car charger since last
August, since it will still work to call 911.

I figured I had to charge it before I went to AT&T to get a new sim
card (since the current one is lost along with the current phone.)

Lo and behold, the battery still showed three bars, after 6 months of
sitting.

But had it needed charging, I don't think the cigarette ligthters work
when the ignitiion is OFF. (I plan to rewire at least one lighter
socket) I would have to turn the key to ACC. I've disconnected
the key-in-ignition switch, so it's possible for me to lock the car
doors with the key in the ignition. I don't know if I could set the
alarm with the key in ACC., but even if I could, I don't like leaving
my car alone with the key in it, doors locked or not.

BUT! I can take the non-electronic key, turn it to ACC, charge the
phone, and lock the car with the real key or the remote, and even if
someone breaks in, he won't be able to start the car.

Everyone should have a key like that. .
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Old 07 May 2012, 09:34 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Use of a non-key in modern cars.

On 05/05/2012 09:07 PM, micky wrote:
> Not a question so far, but a "helpful-hint".
>
> I have a new-to-me 2000 Toyota Solara. When I wanted a copy of my car
> key cut on a standard non-electronic blank, the old guy at Home Depot
> gave me a hard time. I wasn't sure why I wanted one, but I was sure
> I did. (Maybe two.)
>
> Finally in arguing with him, I came up with that a) it would enable me
> to get into the car or trunk, and b) I might end up hiding a
> full-function key there. .
>
> Today I came up with a third and better reason. I lost my cell phone
> and want to go back to using my previous cell phone, which has been
> sitting without a sim card in my trunk with its car charger since last
> August, since it will still work to call 911.
>
> I figured I had to charge it before I went to AT&T to get a new sim
> card (since the current one is lost along with the current phone.)
>
> Lo and behold, the battery still showed three bars, after 6 months of
> sitting.
>
> But had it needed charging, I don't think the cigarette ligthters work
> when the ignitiion is OFF. (I plan to rewire at least one lighter
> socket) I would have to turn the key to ACC. I've disconnected
> the key-in-ignition switch, so it's possible for me to lock the car
> doors with the key in the ignition. I don't know if I could set the
> alarm with the key in ACC., but even if I could, I don't like leaving
> my car alone with the key in it, doors locked or not.
>
> BUT! I can take the non-electronic key, turn it to ACC, charge the
> phone, and lock the car with the real key or the remote, and even if
> someone breaks in, he won't be able to start the car.
>
> Everyone should have a key like that. .


good points.


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Old 08 May 2012, 04:00 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 05/05/2012 09:07 PM, micky wrote:
>> Not a question so far, but a "helpful-hint".
>>
>> I have a new-to-me 2000 Toyota Solara. When I wanted a copy of my car
>> key cut on a standard non-electronic blank, the old guy at Home Depot
>> gave me a hard time. I wasn't sure why I wanted one, but I was sure
>> I did. (Maybe two.)
>>
>> Finally in arguing with him, I came up with that a) it would enable me
>> to get into the car or trunk, and b) I might end up hiding a
>> full-function key there. .
>>
>> Today I came up with a third and better reason. I lost my cell phone
>> and want to go back to using my previous cell phone, which has been
>> sitting without a sim card in my trunk with its car charger since last
>> August, since it will still work to call 911.
>>
>> I figured I had to charge it before I went to AT&T to get a new sim
>> card (since the current one is lost along with the current phone.)
>>
>> Lo and behold, the battery still showed three bars, after 6 months of
>> sitting.
>>
>> But had it needed charging, I don't think the cigarette ligthters work
>> when the ignitiion is OFF. (I plan to rewire at least one lighter
>> socket) I would have to turn the key to ACC. I've disconnected
>> the key-in-ignition switch, so it's possible for me to lock the car
>> doors with the key in the ignition. I don't know if I could set the
>> alarm with the key in ACC., but even if I could, I don't like leaving
>> my car alone with the key in it, doors locked or not.
>>
>> BUT! I can take the non-electronic key, turn it to ACC, charge the
>> phone, and lock the car with the real key or the remote, and even if
>> someone breaks in, he won't be able to start the car.
>>
>> Everyone should have a key like that. .

>
> good points.
>
>
> --
> nomina rutrum rutrum


Can't they just make you a basic valet key? Seems like that is what you're
looking for.

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Old 08 May 2012, 09:51 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Tue, 08 May 2012 17:00:43 -0400, MG <rebore78052@mypacks.net> wrote:

> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:joa0o4$u4j$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 05/05/2012 09:07 PM, micky wrote:
>>> Not a question so far, but a "helpful-hint".
>>>
>>> I have a new-to-me 2000 Toyota Solara. When I wanted a copy of my car
>>> key cut on a standard non-electronic blank, the old guy at Home Depot
>>> gave me a hard time. I wasn't sure why I wanted one, but I was sure
>>> I did. (Maybe two.)
>>>
>>> Finally in arguing with him, I came up with that a) it would enable me
>>> to get into the car or trunk, and b) I might end up hiding a
>>> full-function key there. .
>>>
>>> Today I came up with a third and better reason. I lost my cell phone
>>> and want to go back to using my previous cell phone, which has been
>>> sitting without a sim card in my trunk with its car charger since last
>>> August, since it will still work to call 911.
>>>
>>> I figured I had to charge it before I went to AT&T to get a new sim
>>> card (since the current one is lost along with the current phone.)
>>>
>>> Lo and behold, the battery still showed three bars, after 6 months of
>>> sitting.
>>>
>>> But had it needed charging, I don't think the cigarette ligthters work
>>> when the ignitiion is OFF. (I plan to rewire at least one lighter
>>> socket) I would have to turn the key to ACC. I've disconnected
>>> the key-in-ignition switch, so it's possible for me to lock the car
>>> doors with the key in the ignition. I don't know if I could set the
>>> alarm with the key in ACC., but even if I could, I don't like leaving
>>> my car alone with the key in it, doors locked or not.
>>>
>>> BUT! I can take the non-electronic key, turn it to ACC, charge the
>>> phone, and lock the car with the real key or the remote, and even if
>>> someone breaks in, he won't be able to start the car.
>>>
>>> Everyone should have a key like that. .

>>
>> good points.
>>
>>
>> -- nomina rutrum rutrum

>
> Can't they just make you a basic valet key? Seems like that is what
> you're looking for.



What is the deal on valet keys? I just had to pay Honda $70 to get a
valet key. There has to be a cheaper way.

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Old 12 May 2012, 01:44 am   #5 (permalink)
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On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:00:43 -0400, "MG" <rebore78052@mypacks.net>
wrote:

>
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>"jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>> On 05/05/2012 09:07 PM, micky wrote:
>>> Not a question so far, but a "helpful-hint".
>>>
>>> I have a new-to-me 2000 Toyota Solara. When I wanted a copy of my car
>>> key cut on a standard non-electronic blank, the old guy at Home Depot
>>> gave me a hard time. I wasn't sure why I wanted one, but I was sure
>>> I did. (Maybe two.)
>>>
>>> Finally in arguing with him, I came up with that a) it would enable me
>>> to get into the car or trunk, and b) I might end up hiding a
>>> full-function key there. .
>>>
>>> Today I came up with a third and better reason. I lost my cell phone
>>> and want to go back to using my previous cell phone, which has been
>>> sitting without a sim card in my trunk with its car charger since last
>>> August, since it will still work to call 911.
>>>
>>> I figured I had to charge it before I went to AT&T to get a new sim
>>> card (since the current one is lost along with the current phone.)
>>>
>>> Lo and behold, the battery still showed three bars, after 6 months of
>>> sitting.
>>>
>>> But had it needed charging, I don't think the cigarette ligthters work
>>> when the ignitiion is OFF. (I plan to rewire at least one lighter
>>> socket) I would have to turn the key to ACC. I've disconnected
>>> the key-in-ignition switch, so it's possible for me to lock the car
>>> doors with the key in the ignition. I don't know if I could set the
>>> alarm with the key in ACC., but even if I could, I don't like leaving
>>> my car alone with the key in it, doors locked or not.
>>>
>>> BUT! I can take the non-electronic key, turn it to ACC, charge the
>>> phone, and lock the car with the real key or the remote, and even if
>>> someone breaks in, he won't be able to start the car.
>>>
>>> Everyone should have a key like that. .

>>
>> good points.
>>
>>
>> --
>> nomina rutrum rutrum

>
>Can't they just make you a basic valet key?


It depends what you mean by basic. If you mean a key without a chip
in it, what I called a non-electronic key, yes, pretty much.

If basic doesn't mean that, and you mean a valet key with a chip in
it**, no. Because that *would* not just turn on the cigatette
lighter, but would also start the car, making it vulnerale to theft.
Theft is not very likely but by using the non-electronic key, I can
avoid the possibility entirely. **And an electronic valet key came
with the car.

Yes, a basic non-electronic 4-lock key (or a basic non-e valet key)
is what I was talking about. A non-electronic valiet key would also
prevent someone from entering the trunk or glove box. Maybe I'll get
one

>Seems like that is what you're looking for.


FWIW, I'm not actually looking for anything anymore. I have one, and
I found another use for it.
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