4 Cyl Camry vs. V6 Taurus

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Old 16 Jul 2003, 07:56 pm   #1 (permalink)
Michael Singleton
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Default 4 Cyl Camry vs. V6 Taurus

Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's down to the
2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends recommend the
Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up hills.

Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines, hills and
mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty years ago have
me gunshy about the less than a V6.

Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is too stupid
a question for this group.

Michael


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Old 16 Jul 2003, 08:11 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"Michael Singleton" <msingleton@sc.rr.com> writes:

> Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's down to
> the 2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends recommend
> the Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up hills.
>
> Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines, hills and
> mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty years ago
> have me gunshy about the less than a V6.
>
> Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is too
> stupid a question for this group.


I think the question you need to ask is, why on earth would you EVER buy a
Taurus over a Camry?

Either save up for the V6 Camry or just get the 4. You'll be glad later.

The 2002-2003 Camry has an improved 4-cyl engine with 150 or so horsepower
and should be fast enough.


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Old 16 Jul 2003, 08:31 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Last summer I took a business trip here in Colorado through the Rocky
Mountains. Obviously there are several passes to go over. At the time, I was
driving a 2000 Honda Accord EX-V6, with 200 hp. The rental car for my trip was
a 2002 Toyota Camry LE 4-cyl. I was a little apprehensive at the thought of not
having my V6 for the passes, but the Camry did great! I was rather impressed
with the available power for such steep passes. Don't even consider the
Taurus....it'll be in the shop all the time anyway. ;-) You could always save
up for the 2003 Honda Accord V6...with an awesome 240 hp.

Jase
2003 Honda Accord EX-V6
2000 Honda Accord EX-V6
1994 Honda Accord EX
1991 Honda Accord EX
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Old 16 Jul 2003, 09:57 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"Michael Singleton" <msingleton@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's down
> to the 2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends
> recommend the Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up hills.
>
> Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines, hills
> and mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty
> years ago have me gunshy about the less than a V6.
>
> Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is too
> stupid a question for this group.
>
> Michael


159 hp for the 4cyl Camry vs. 157 hp for the "standard" Taurus V6.

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Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 03:51 am   #5 (permalink)
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:57:40 GMT, "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net>
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>"Michael Singleton" <msingleton@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's down
>> to the 2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends
>> recommend the Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up hills.
>>
>> Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines, hills
>> and mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty
>> years ago have me gunshy about the less than a V6.
>>
>> Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is too
>> stupid a question for this group.
>>
>> Michael

>
>159 hp for the 4cyl Camry vs. 157 hp for the "standard" Taurus V6.



Wouldn't torque be of more inportance in 'hill climbing' ??
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 08:57 am   #6 (permalink)
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"R.M. Drupsteen" <nospam#R.Drupsteen@Bouwfonds.nl> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:57:40 GMT, "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "Michael Singleton" <msingleton@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:ivmRa.239895$_w.9396495@twister.southeast.rr. com
>>> Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's down
>>> to the 2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends
>>> recommend the Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up hills.
>>>
>>> Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines, hills
>>> and mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty
>>> years ago have me gunshy about the less than a V6.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is too
>>> stupid a question for this group.
>>>
>>> Michael

>>
>> 159 hp for the 4cyl Camry vs. 157 hp for the "standard" Taurus V6.

>
>
> Wouldn't torque be of more inportance in 'hill climbing' ??


Yes and No. It depends on where the torque comes from. When you have an
engine capable of producing "work" (horsepower) at RPM higher than its
maximum torque point, you get torque by working the gearbox aggressively
to muliply modest crankshaft torque. Torque (twisting effort) at the
crankshaft is touted when a minimum number of gearbox selections (our
American 3 speed automatic tradition) are available to multiply
crankshaft torque so.... the engine must be the torque producer.

In other words, use the tachometer. Find out were maximum torque output
RPM is and don't be the least bit afraid of running the engine in that
range (between max torque and a wee bit below max horsepower) whenever
the most pulling power is needed for an indefinite period of time.
SHIFT!

If a diesel engine is in question, limit your maximum continuous RPM to
the maximum torque RPM as diesels amost never produce more horsepower
beyond the maximum torque RPM.

(retired trucker)
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 10:38 am   #7 (permalink)
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Having owning a 1999 V6 Taurus which was pretty useless on hills, I opted
for a V6 Camry. I have gone on various inclines thru mountains and it works
just fine. The 2003 Camry is a 210 hp and 5 speed auto but recommends
premium fuel. The mpg that I get on my camry more then makes up for premium
fuel.

Save your $$ and get the Camry V6
"Michael Singleton" <msingleton@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's down to

the
> 2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends recommend the
> Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up hills.
>
> Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines, hills and
> mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty years ago

have
> me gunshy about the less than a V6.
>
> Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is too

stupid
> a question for this group.
>
> Michael
>
>



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Old 17 Jul 2003, 03:39 pm   #8 (permalink)
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I had 2 91 Taurus's... a wagon and a sedan. Something broke on them
every 3 months. The 6 back then was not very strong but that was a
long time ago. I currently have a 2001 Avalon and I am not at all
impressed with it compared to my Chysler 300M but I would still thing
your obvious choice is the Camry.



"Michael Singleton" <msingleton@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's down

to the
> 2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends recommend

the
> Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up hills.
>
> Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines, hills

and
> mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty years

ago have
> me gunshy about the less than a V6.
>
> Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is too

stupid
> a question for this group.
>
> Michael
>
>



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Old 17 Jul 2003, 03:41 pm   #9 (permalink)
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But the Taurus was probably discounted thousands more than the Camry.
Not recommending the Taurus but I think the depreciation difference is
overstated on imports versus domestic when you consider the initial
rebates and discounts.


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> just for fun do this...go to Edmunds.com
> and pick any year Camry and Taurus...
> Say a 1997 model..get the new price
> then look at what they are worth now...
> taurus= next to nothing plus thousands
> of $ in repairs in its life...
> Camry= worth probably many thousands
> more than the taurus and very little spent
> on repairs...my 97 with 165,000 miles
> has had ONE repair in its life a power
> steering rack...
> Taurus cars are famous for dead AC
> and transmission problems...
> So even if you spend a bit more for a
> V6 camry your still way ahead at the end.



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Old 17 Jul 2003, 03:43 pm   #10 (permalink)
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When we bought our 91 Taurus's, we were moving from 1983 4WD Tercel
wagons. The Taurus's felt like race cars (when they weren't in the
shop).



"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Technically, your Camru transmission is a four speed automatic with
> torque converter lockup. The standard two valve V6 Taurus engine is
> better compared to the four cylinder Camry for power output.
> --
>
> Philip
>
> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all

tending
> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> - John Locke (1632-1704)
>
>
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> "XXXXX" <NOSPAM@ISP.COM> wrote in message
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> > Having owning a 1999 V6 Taurus which was pretty useless on hills,

I
> > opted for a V6 Camry. I have gone on various inclines thru

mountains
> > and it works just fine. The 2003 Camry is a 210 hp and 5 speed

auto
> > but recommends premium fuel. The mpg that I get on my camry more

then
> > makes up for premium fuel.
> >
> > Save your $$ and get the Camry V6
> > "Michael Singleton" <msingleton@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:ivmRa.239895$_w.9396495@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> >> Can anyone give me some advice? I will soon buy a car and it's

down
> >> to the 2003 4 cyl Camry and the 2003 V6 Taurus, and many friends
> >> recommend the Camry but I'm worried about it's power going up

hills.
> >>
> >> Can you tell me how the 2003 Camry responds to steep inclines,

hills
> >> and mountains? Memories of another, lesser, four-cylinder twenty
> >> years ago have me gunshy about the less than a V6.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your advice to anyone who responds. Sorry if this is

too
> >> stupid a question for this group.
> >>
> >> Michael

>
>



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