1998 Camry transmission slipping. Please help

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Old 21 Jul 2003, 09:39 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1998 Camry transmission slipping. Please help

Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I noticed the
other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny just
mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way up.
After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny reengaged
and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem reoccured
this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming up. I
was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The problem
did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.

Any ideas on what could be happening here??

Thanks

jasguild
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Old 21 Jul 2003, 10:33 am   #2 (permalink)
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jas kim wrote:
> Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I noticed the
> other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny just
> mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way up.
> After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny reengaged
> and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem reoccured
> this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming up. I
> was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The problem
> did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
>
> Any ideas on what could be happening here??
>
> Thanks
>
> jasguild


You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state of
disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you got your
foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.

Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level? That's the
first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)



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Old 21 Jul 2003, 01:19 pm   #3 (permalink)
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The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs about 8
bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a trailer. I
couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the goop and it
work as good as new.
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> jas kim wrote:
> > Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I noticed the
> > other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny just
> > mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way up.
> > After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny reengaged
> > and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem reoccured
> > this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming up. I
> > was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The problem
> > did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
> >
> > Any ideas on what could be happening here??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > jasguild

>
> You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state of
> disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you got your
> foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
>
> Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level? That's the
> first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
> inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
> --
>
> Philip
>
> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> - John Locke (1632-1704)
>
>
>



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Old 21 Jul 2003, 05:15 pm   #4 (permalink)
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The transmission oil level is and has always been higher than the
marks on the dip stick. This is the level that the dealer maintained
it.

jasguild




"Tj" <trichar3@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message news:<79WSa.165766$8B.21731@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
> The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs about 8
> bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a trailer. I
> couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the goop and it
> work as good as new.
> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0JTSa.112831$Io.9659600@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > jas kim wrote:
> > > Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I noticed the
> > > other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny just
> > > mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way up.
> > > After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny reengaged
> > > and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem reoccured
> > > this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming up. I
> > > was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The problem
> > > did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on what could be happening here??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > jasguild

> >
> > You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state of
> > disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you got your
> > foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
> >
> > Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level? That's the
> > first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
> > inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
> > --
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
> > the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> > wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> > - John Locke (1632-1704)
> >
> >
> >

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Old 21 Jul 2003, 07:11 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"Higher" eh? Are you checking the fluid level with the engine RUNNING?
This is not a Honda. Toyota ... engine running and in Park. Also, the
fluid needs to red in color ... not brown nor smelling foul / burnt.
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)


jas kim wrote:
> The transmission oil level is and has always been higher than the
> marks on the dip stick. This is the level that the dealer maintained
> it.
>
> jasguild
>
>
>
>
> "Tj" <trichar3@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:<79WSa.165766$8B.21731@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
>> The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs
>> about 8
>> bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a trailer.
>> I
>> couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the
>> goop and it
>> work as good as new.
>> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:0JTSa.112831$Io.9659600@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
>>> jas kim wrote:
>>>> Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I noticed
>>>> the
>>>> other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny
>>>> just
>>>> mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way
>>>> up.
>>>> After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny
>>>> reengaged
>>>> and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem
>>>> reoccured
>>>> this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming up. I
>>>> was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The problem
>>>> did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on what could be happening here??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> jasguild
>>>
>>> You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state of
>>> disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you got
>>> your
>>> foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
>>>
>>> Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level?
>>> That's the
>>> first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
>>> inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>
>>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
>>> tending
>>> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
>>> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
>>> - John Locke (1632-1704)



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Old 21 Jul 2003, 08:54 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Higher" eh? Are you checking the fluid level with the engine RUNNING?
> This is not a Honda. Toyota ... engine running and in Park. Also, the
> fluid needs to red in color ... not brown nor smelling foul / burnt.
> --
>
> Philip
>
> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> - John Locke (1632-1704)
>
>
> jas kim wrote:
> > The transmission oil level is and has always been higher than the
> > marks on the dip stick. This is the level that the dealer maintained
> > it.
> >
> > jasguild
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tj" <trichar3@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:<79WSa.165766$8B.21731@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
> >> The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs
> >> about 8
> >> bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a trailer.
> >> I
> >> couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the
> >> goop and it
> >> work as good as new.
> >> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:0JTSa.112831$Io.9659600@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> >>> jas kim wrote:
> >>>> Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I noticed
> >>>> the
> >>>> other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny
> >>>> just
> >>>> mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way
> >>>> up.
> >>>> After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny
> >>>> reengaged
> >>>> and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem
> >>>> reoccured
> >>>> this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming up. I
> >>>> was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The problem
> >>>> did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any ideas on what could be happening here??
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> jasguild
> >>>
> >>> You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state of
> >>> disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you got
> >>> your
> >>> foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
> >>>
> >>> Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level?
> >>> That's the
> >>> first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
> >>> inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Philip
> >>>
> >>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
> >>> tending
> >>> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> >>> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> >>> - John Locke (1632-1704)

>
>


I wonder if a higher level could be ATF transferred from the final
drive/differential to the transaxle because of a faulty seal? I have heard
our Toyota techs mention this concerning older 4 cyl Camry's.

Considering how neglected final drive checks/fluid changes are in most
cases, this might be a consideration and a good time to do a service


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Old 22 Jul 2003, 02:54 am   #7 (permalink)
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The differential is not sealed from the main ATF oil supply on auto trans
axles where no separate final drive filler plug exists. In any case,
while the engine is running, the fluid levels will have had time to
equalize and engine running is how the fluid level on a Toyota (and most
others) is checked.
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)

Platil wrote:
>
> I wonder if a higher level could be ATF transferred from the final
> drive/differential to the transaxle because of a faulty seal? I have
> heard our Toyota techs mention this concerning older 4 cyl Camry's.
>
> Considering how neglected final drive checks/fluid changes are in most
> cases, this might be a consideration and a good time to do a service


> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8j%Sa.113502$Io.9714735@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
>> "Higher" eh? Are you checking the fluid level with the engine
>> RUNNING? This is not a Honda. Toyota ... engine running and in
>> Park. Also, the fluid needs to red in color ... not brown nor
>> smelling foul / burnt. --
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
>> tending the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis
>> not to be wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
>> - John Locke (1632-1704)
>>
>>
>> jas kim wrote:
>>> The transmission oil level is and has always been higher than the
>>> marks on the dip stick. This is the level that the dealer
>>> maintained it.
>>>
>>> jasguild
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tj" <trichar3@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<79WSa.165766$8B.21731@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
>>>> The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs
>>>> about 8
>>>> bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a
>>>> trailer. I
>>>> couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the
>>>> goop and it
>>>> work as good as new.
>>>> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:0JTSa.112831$Io.9659600@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
>>>>> jas kim wrote:
>>>>>> Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I
>>>>>> noticed the
>>>>>> other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way
>>>>>> up.
>>>>>> After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny
>>>>>> reengaged
>>>>>> and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem
>>>>>> reoccured
>>>>>> this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming
>>>>>> up. I was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances.
>>>>>> The problem did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas on what could be happening here??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jasguild
>>>>>
>>>>> You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state
>>>>> of disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you
>>>>> got your
>>>>> foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level?
>>>>> That's the
>>>>> first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
>>>>> inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Philip
>>>>>
>>>>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
>>>>> tending
>>>>> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to
>>>>> be wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
>>>>> - John Locke (1632-1704)



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Old 22 Jul 2003, 05:56 am   #8 (permalink)
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I thought the 02 Camry w/the 4 cyl, 2AZ-FE engine was the first generation
of 4 cyl Camry to share ATF between the differential and transmission???

"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The differential is not sealed from the main ATF oil supply on auto trans
> axles where no separate final drive filler plug exists. In any case,
> while the engine is running, the fluid levels will have had time to
> equalize and engine running is how the fluid level on a Toyota (and most
> others) is checked.
> --
>
> Philip
>
> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> - John Locke (1632-1704)
>
> Platil wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if a higher level could be ATF transferred from the final
> > drive/differential to the transaxle because of a faulty seal? I have
> > heard our Toyota techs mention this concerning older 4 cyl Camry's.
> >
> > Considering how neglected final drive checks/fluid changes are in most
> > cases, this might be a consideration and a good time to do a service

>
> > "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:8j%Sa.113502$Io.9714735@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> >> "Higher" eh? Are you checking the fluid level with the engine
> >> RUNNING? This is not a Honda. Toyota ... engine running and in
> >> Park. Also, the fluid needs to red in color ... not brown nor
> >> smelling foul / burnt. --
> >>
> >> Philip
> >>
> >> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
> >> tending the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis
> >> not to be wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> >> - John Locke (1632-1704)
> >>
> >>
> >> jas kim wrote:
> >>> The transmission oil level is and has always been higher than the
> >>> marks on the dip stick. This is the level that the dealer
> >>> maintained it.
> >>>
> >>> jasguild
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Tj" <trichar3@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:<79WSa.165766$8B.21731@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
> >>>> The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs
> >>>> about 8
> >>>> bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a
> >>>> trailer. I
> >>>> couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the
> >>>> goop and it
> >>>> work as good as new.
> >>>> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:0JTSa.112831$Io.9659600@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> >>>>> jas kim wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I
> >>>>>> noticed the
> >>>>>> other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny
> >>>>>> just
> >>>>>> mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way
> >>>>>> up.
> >>>>>> After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny
> >>>>>> reengaged
> >>>>>> and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem
> >>>>>> reoccured
> >>>>>> this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming
> >>>>>> up. I was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances.
> >>>>>> The problem did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any ideas on what could be happening here??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> jasguild
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state
> >>>>> of disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you
> >>>>> got your
> >>>>> foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level?
> >>>>> That's the
> >>>>> first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
> >>>>> inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Philip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
> >>>>> tending
> >>>>> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to
> >>>>> be wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> >>>>> - John Locke (1632-1704)

>
>



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Old 22 Jul 2003, 07:50 am   #9 (permalink)
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So to check the oil in a Toyota I should have the engine running. I
know the dip stick has a reading for cold and hot but is it better to
do it hot or cold? My wife has a Honda and I did see in the manual
that their tranny is checked with the engine off. However I am pretty
sure that the oil level in the Camry is high when the engine is off
and on and when hot and cold. I have checked it in all these possible
scenarios already.

Will check the quality and color of the oil this evening.

Thanks for responding and feel free to shoot other ideas.

jasguild


"Platil" <sig220@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:<bP0Ta.115447$ye4.84953@sccrnsc01>...
> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:8j%Sa.113502$Io.9714735@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > "Higher" eh? Are you checking the fluid level with the engine RUNNING?
> > This is not a Honda. Toyota ... engine running and in Park. Also, the
> > fluid needs to red in color ... not brown nor smelling foul / burnt.
> > --
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
> > the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> > wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> > - John Locke (1632-1704)
> >
> >
> > jas kim wrote:
> > > The transmission oil level is and has always been higher than the
> > > marks on the dip stick. This is the level that the dealer maintained
> > > it.
> > >
> > > jasguild
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tj" <trichar3@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<79WSa.165766$8B.21731@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
> > >> The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs
> > >> about 8
> > >> bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a trailer.
> > >> I
> > >> couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the
> > >> goop and it
> > >> work as good as new.
> > >> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:0JTSa.112831$Io.9659600@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> > >>> jas kim wrote:
> > >>>> Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I noticed
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny
> > >>>> just
> > >>>> mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way
> > >>>> up.
> > >>>> After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny
> > >>>> reengaged
> > >>>> and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem
> > >>>> reoccured
> > >>>> this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming up. I
> > >>>> was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The problem
> > >>>> did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any ideas on what could be happening here??
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> jasguild
> > >>>
> > >>> You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state of
> > >>> disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you got
> > >>> your
> > >>> foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level?
> > >>> That's the
> > >>> first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
> > >>> inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Philip
> > >>>
> > >>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
> > >>> tending
> > >>> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> > >>> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> > >>> - John Locke (1632-1704)

> >
> >

>
> I wonder if a higher level could be ATF transferred from the final
> drive/differential to the transaxle because of a faulty seal? I have heard
> our Toyota techs mention this concerning older 4 cyl Camry's.
>
> Considering how neglected final drive checks/fluid changes are in most
> cases, this might be a consideration and a good time to do a service

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Old 22 Jul 2003, 03:40 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Can I get my transmission oil and transmission filter changed by a
regular shop or do I need to go to the Toyota dealer to get a good job
done?? The reason I ask this is that I remember when I asked this
question about my honda, I was told that if I took the honda to a
regular shop, they do not put in the genuine honda trans oil (which is
different than regular trans fluid). Instead the regular shops use an
additive on top of the regular trans oil to get the right formula
which is not as good as the genuine thing.

Is this the same issue with Toyotas??

Sincerely

jasguild


"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<5PaTa.17$e4.11@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink. net>...
> You noticed I mentioned Honda being checked with engine off. ANYTIME a
> poster mentions his fluid seems overfilled, I always find a Honda in
> their past or present. ;^) Honda is the *exception.* The optimum
> "check" for Toyota is to drive the car for a 15 minutes from COLD and
> then check the fluid .... with the engine idling ... fluid to the HOT
> mark ... transmission in Park ... just like it says on the stick just
> above the HOT mark. In your Toyota, *ignore* the ATF fluid level with
> the engine off because as soon as the engine stops turning, the torque
> converter starts draining back thru the pump until it is about half full
> .... which raises the fluid level by about 1.5 quarts. Honda simply
> makes the *cold* reading (half filled torque converter) the "check point
> level."
> --
>
> Philip
>
> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
> the same way, make the design
> visible to the people . tis not to be wondered that they should then
> rouse themselves."
> - John Locke (1632-1704)
>
>
> jas kim wrote:
> > So to check the oil in a Toyota I should have the engine running. I
> > know the dip stick has a reading for cold and hot but is it better to
> > do it hot or cold? My wife has a Honda and I did see in the manual
> > that their tranny is checked with the engine off. However I am pretty
> > sure that the oil level in the Camry is high when the engine is off
> > and on and when hot and cold. I have checked it in all these possible
> > scenarios already.
> >
> > Will check the quality and color of the oil this evening.
> >
> > Thanks for responding and feel free to shoot other ideas.
> >
> > jasguild
> >
> >
> > "Platil" <sig220@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:<bP0Ta.115447$ye4.84953@sccrnsc01>...
> >> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:8j%Sa.113502$Io.9714735@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> >>> "Higher" eh? Are you checking the fluid level with the engine
> >>> RUNNING?
> >>> This is not a Honda. Toyota ... engine running and in Park. Also,
> >>> the
> >>> fluid needs to red in color ... not brown nor smelling foul / burnt.
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Philip
> >>>
> >>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
> >>> tending
> >>> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
> >>> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> >>> - John Locke (1632-1704)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jas kim wrote:
> >>>> The transmission oil level is and has always been higher than the
> >>>> marks on the dip stick. This is the level that the dealer
> >>>> maintained
> >>>> it.
> >>>>
> >>>> jasguild
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Tj" <trichar3@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:<79WSa.165766$8B.21731@twister.nyroc.rr.com>. ..
> >>>>> The auto parts stores sell something to prevent slippage.It costs
> >>>>> about 8
> >>>>> bucks. It works great. I thought I blow a tranny pulling a
> >>>>> trailer.
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> couldn't get van to go over 35 mph the next day. Then I used the
> >>>>> goop and it
> >>>>> work as good as new.
> >>>>> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:0JTSa.112831$Io.9659600@newsread2.prod.itd.ea rthlink.net...
> >>>>>> jas kim wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi I have a 1998 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinders automatic. I
> >>>>>>> noticed
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> other evening while driving about 40 miles per hour, the tranny
> >>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>> mysteriously disengaged. The rpm of the engine went all the way
> >>>>>>> up.
> >>>>>>> After pressing the accelerator two or three times the tranny
> >>>>>>> reengaged
> >>>>>>> and the check engine light lit up immediately. The problem
> >>>>>>> reoccured
> >>>>>>> this morning. In the two instances, the car was still warming
> >>>>>>> up. I
> >>>>>>> was driving for less than 5 minutes in both instances. The
> >>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>> did not reoccur for the remainder of the drive.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any ideas on what could be happening here??
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> jasguild
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You are saying the transmission disengaged ... and in that state
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> disengagement, the engine flared up near red-line before you got
> >>>>>> your
> >>>>>> foot off the throttle. Then the transmission re-engaged.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok. Have you checked the automatic transmission fluid level?
> >>>>>> That's the
> >>>>>> first place I would look. When the transmission has marginally
> >>>>>> inadequate fluid level, gear engagement cannot be assured.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Philip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
> >>>>>> tending
> >>>>>> the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
> >>>>>> - John Locke (1632-1704)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I wonder if a higher level could be ATF transferred from the final
> >> drive/differential to the transaxle because of a faulty seal? I
> >> have heard
> >> our Toyota techs mention this concerning older 4 cyl Camry's.
> >>
> >> Considering how neglected final drive checks/fluid changes are in
> >> most
> >> cases, this might be a consideration and a good time to do a service

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