Gas mileage: 4 vs V6 2003 data

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Old 22 Jul 2003, 06:50 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default Gas mileage: 4 vs V6 2003 data

Looking for realistic data for gas mileage for the 4 vs. V6 2003 Camry, if
you have ever made several measurements.

Please give what driving and mileage, e.g.. city, mostly highway or freeway
(65 mph LOL).

I am trying to make up my mind.

EPA is only good for comparison.

Thanks,


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Old 23 Jul 2003, 03:15 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Further to my post, I get between 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway with my V6
and A/C on. City driving yields lower mileage.


"Car Guy" <NOSPAM@ISP.COM> wrote in message
news:OgyTa.6277$1I5.630816@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> V6 engines will take more fuel then the 4 cyl. Also, the V6 recommends
> Premium. I bought the 2002 Camry LE V6 and am happy with the additional
> power. If you are concerned about fuel consumption and prices, get the 4
> cyl.
> "Dusty" <remove-dusty@jadehouse.org> wrote in message
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> > Looking for realistic data for gas mileage for the 4 vs. V6 2003 Camry,

if
> > you have ever made several measurements.
> >
> > Please give what driving and mileage, e.g.. city, mostly highway or

> freeway
> > (65 mph LOL).
> >
> > I am trying to make up my mind.
> >
> > EPA is only good for comparison.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 23 Jul 2003, 03:49 pm   #3 (permalink)
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I get 32 to 36MPG on my 1995 Camry I-4 on I-15 from Southern Cal to Canada
Columbia Icefield. Family of 4 - 2 Adult and 2 kids(5,7). The trunk is FULL
and back seat is almost full. A/C is on most of the time. Average speed 80MPH.
I get better mileage once I get non california gas.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:50:05 GMT, "Dusty" <remove-dusty@jadehouse.org> wrote:

=>Looking for realistic data for gas mileage for the 4 vs. V6 2003 Camry, if
=>you have ever made several measurements.
=>
=>Please give what driving and mileage, e.g.. city, mostly highway or freeway
=>(65 mph LOL).
=>
=>I am trying to make up my mind.
=>
=>EPA is only good for comparison.
=>
=>Thanks,
=>

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Old 23 Jul 2003, 06:58 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"Car Guy" <NOSPAM@ISP.COM> writes:

> Further to my post, I get between 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway with my V6
> and A/C on.


I doubt it.


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Old 23 Jul 2003, 09:47 pm   #5 (permalink)
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You are entitled to your opinion. Is there any reason you doubt it? Do you
have documented or real life evidence that the 1MZ-FE V6 is incapable of
getting 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway?


"Chris Aseltine" <aseltine@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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> "Car Guy" <NOSPAM@ISP.COM> writes:
>
> > Further to my post, I get between 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway with my

V6
> > and A/C on.

>
> I doubt it.
>
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Old 23 Jul 2003, 10:45 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Chris Aseltine" <aseltine@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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> "Car Guy" <NOSPAM@ISP.COM> writes:
>
> > Further to my post, I get between 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway with my

V6
> > and A/C on.

>
> I doubt it.
>


I find this a little high as well.
I have a '99 Camry LE V6 I have had since about new with 63,000 miles on it
now.

I drive ~15,000 miles/yr on flat roads in a warm climate with 50 percent of
that being a work commute of 14 miles each way with the following breakdown:
First 5 miles of the commute: 35-45 MPH, next 7 miles: 55-60 MPH, last 2
miles: 10-30 MPH with 4 or 5 stoplights for the whole trip.

I drive gently.. Very, very gently. I do achieve the speed limit or a little
above but I might spend a quarter-mile to get to 60 from a stop. (RPM is
usually kept below 2000 except for the final gear where it runs 2300 or so.)

I suppose it is possible to accelerate more slowly, but I don't know how
I am considerate of other drivers though and do get out their way.

I also glide to a stop or until the light turns green. The brake pads show
maybe 20% wear at 63,000 miles.

On this cycle with a grocery stop here or there I have an average of 27 to
27.5 MPG with Mobil 1 5W-30, tires at 44 PSI .
I calculate MPG on every fill-up.

My very best lifetime mileage was 32MPG pure highway at 65 MPH, no A/C.

I did manage to average right at 30 MPG during a recent, hurried 1200 mile
round-trip journey with a moving average of 69 MPH (mostly driving around
75+ MPH) as measured by a GPS. A/C was on maybe half the time. I managed 520
miles of non-stop driving on one tank of gas! The empty light has been on 20
miles before I finally made it to my preferred gas station (Kroger gas with
discount card, BTW).

I ran 87 octane for the first 60,000 miles, but noticed a 1 MPG improvement
upon switching to 93 octane, FWIW. Not worth the cost difference, but
interesting nonetheless.

Plugs are new at 60K, oil religiously changed before 3000 miles (I changed
to M1 5W-30 at 5K, no consumption or leaks), air filter every 15K, trans
drain every 15K, full trans flush every 30K Mobil 1 ATF since 20K, etc, etc,
ad nauseam...

Tell me straight - am I wearing my car out with all this aggressive driving?
LOL



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Old 24 Jul 2003, 05:59 am   #7 (permalink)
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I think you want the Camry to run forever with that regimen. The new car
vultures must hate you :-)



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> "Chris Aseltine" <aseltine@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:PfFTa.3688$o7.47292@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
> > "Car Guy" <NOSPAM@ISP.COM> writes:
> >
> > > Further to my post, I get between 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway with

my
> V6
> > > and A/C on.

> >
> > I doubt it.
> >

>
> I find this a little high as well.
> I have a '99 Camry LE V6 I have had since about new with 63,000 miles on

it
> now.
>
> I drive ~15,000 miles/yr on flat roads in a warm climate with 50 percent

of
> that being a work commute of 14 miles each way with the following

breakdown:
> First 5 miles of the commute: 35-45 MPH, next 7 miles: 55-60 MPH, last 2
> miles: 10-30 MPH with 4 or 5 stoplights for the whole trip.
>
> I drive gently.. Very, very gently. I do achieve the speed limit or a

little
> above but I might spend a quarter-mile to get to 60 from a stop. (RPM is
> usually kept below 2000 except for the final gear where it runs 2300 or

so.)
>
> I suppose it is possible to accelerate more slowly, but I don't know how


> I am considerate of other drivers though and do get out their way.
>
> I also glide to a stop or until the light turns green. The brake pads show
> maybe 20% wear at 63,000 miles.
>
> On this cycle with a grocery stop here or there I have an average of 27 to
> 27.5 MPG with Mobil 1 5W-30, tires at 44 PSI .
> I calculate MPG on every fill-up.
>
> My very best lifetime mileage was 32MPG pure highway at 65 MPH, no A/C.
>
> I did manage to average right at 30 MPG during a recent, hurried 1200 mile
> round-trip journey with a moving average of 69 MPH (mostly driving around
> 75+ MPH) as measured by a GPS. A/C was on maybe half the time. I managed

520
> miles of non-stop driving on one tank of gas! The empty light has been on

20
> miles before I finally made it to my preferred gas station (Kroger gas

with
> discount card, BTW).
>
> I ran 87 octane for the first 60,000 miles, but noticed a 1 MPG

improvement
> upon switching to 93 octane, FWIW. Not worth the cost difference, but
> interesting nonetheless.
>
> Plugs are new at 60K, oil religiously changed before 3000 miles (I changed
> to M1 5W-30 at 5K, no consumption or leaks), air filter every 15K, trans
> drain every 15K, full trans flush every 30K Mobil 1 ATF since 20K, etc,

etc,
> ad nauseam...
>
> Tell me straight - am I wearing my car out with all this aggressive

driving?
> LOL
>
>
>



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Old 24 Jul 2003, 11:05 am   #8 (permalink)
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Car Guy wrote:
> Philip et. al,
>
> On my last extended highway trip, I drive about 460 km and I that was
> on 32 litres of fuel.
>
> Let do some math here based on Canadian (Imperial) calculations:
>
> 460 km = 285.2 miles (1 km = 0.62 mile)
> 32 litres = 7.03 gallons ( 1 Gallon = 4.55 litres)


Ok... MY math:

32 liters = 8.45 US Gallons

So... 285.83 miles divided by 8.45 US Gallons = 33.82 US miles per
gallon. 33 mpg is not at all unusual for V6 Camry in the U.S..

Anytime Canadians start bragging about fuel consumtion, I *know* there's
a conversion error or an omission regarding Imperial vs. US gallons.

(snip the remaining apology for conversion errors
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>> Well... when a 2002 ES300 Lexus with the 1MZ-FE has city 20 / hwy 29
>> .... your figures are quite suspect. If a 2001 ES300, lower those
>> figures to city 19 / hwy 26. (US EPA, US gallons).
>> --
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> "If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
>> tending the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis
>> not to be wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
>> - John Locke (1632-1704)
>>
>>
>> Car Guy wrote:
>>> You are entitled to your opinion. Is there any reason you doubt it?
>>> Do you have documented or real life evidence that the 1MZ-FE V6 is
>>> incapable of getting 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chris Aseltine" <aseltine@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:PfFTa.3688$o7.47292@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
>>>> "Car Guy" <NOSPAM@ISP.COM> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Further to my post, I get between 35 to 40 mpg's on the highway
>>>>> with my V6 and A/C on.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt it.



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Old 24 Jul 2003, 05:07 pm   #9 (permalink)
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"Dusty" <remove-dusty@jadehouse.org> wrote in message news:<N4kTa.335$lI7.281@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com >...
> Looking for realistic data for gas mileage for the 4 vs. V6 2003 Camry, if
> you have ever made several measurements.
>
> Please give what driving and mileage, e.g.. city, mostly highway or freeway
> (65 mph LOL).
>
> I am trying to make up my mind.
>
> EPA is only good for comparison.
>
> Thanks,


I have a 2003 4-cyl manual Camry LE. It has about 13k on it and gets
a steady 29-30 mpg with about 70/30 highway/city use. 500 miles per
tank of gas!
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Old 24 Jul 2003, 05:24 pm   #10 (permalink)
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I get that on a tank of gas on my 2002 V6 Camry.
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> "Dusty" <remove-dusty@jadehouse.org> wrote in message

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> > Looking for realistic data for gas mileage for the 4 vs. V6 2003 Camry,

if
> > you have ever made several measurements.
> >
> > Please give what driving and mileage, e.g.. city, mostly highway or

freeway
> > (65 mph LOL).
> >
> > I am trying to make up my mind.
> >
> > EPA is only good for comparison.
> >
> > Thanks,

>
> I have a 2003 4-cyl manual Camry LE. It has about 13k on it and gets
> a steady 29-30 mpg with about 70/30 highway/city use. 500 miles per
> tank of gas!



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