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Old 23 Jul 2003, 11:59 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default Brand new camry 03: Airbag light on

Hi,
I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.
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Old 23 Jul 2003, 12:23 pm   #2 (permalink)
C. E. White
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Default Re: Brand new camry 03: Airbag light on

If the car is repaired properly, it will be safe to drive. The air bag
light is on because the computer that controls it has detected a fault. I
expect that the technicians will be able to determine from the computer
which component is causing the problem and replace it.

I think you are naive if you think buying a Toyota guarantees you won't
have any problems. One of the worst cars I ever owned was a Toyota.
Personally I won't touch them, but lots of people love them. But then lots
of people love Hondas, Fords, and even Dodges too.

The key thing is whether or not you trust your dealer's service
department. If they are properly trained, and honest, the problem will be
fixed and you will be satisfied. If they are jack legs, it is no telling
what they will do.

Regards,

Ed White

Sandra wrote:

> Hi,
> I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
> a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
> notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
> this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
> is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
> into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
> car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
> and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
> Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
> state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
> car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
> warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
> particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
> Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.


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Old 23 Jul 2003, 03:22 pm   #3 (permalink)
Rob Guenther
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Default Re: Brand new camry 03: Airbag light on

Get a Volkswagen, we don't have problems with our safety features.... just a
few defective parts here and there, and our interiors will beat out the one
in your Camry even in the cheaper models.....

Message of this reply is, don't cross post to groups that aren't related to
your TOYOTA CAMRY.

"Sandra" <sandrazlopez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e4494ce.0307230859.723231d7@posting.google.c om...
> Hi,
> I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
> a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
> notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
> this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
> is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
> into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
> car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
> and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
> Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
> state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
> car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
> warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
> particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
> Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.



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Old 23 Jul 2003, 04:53 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:22:22 -0400, "Rob Guenther"
<robguenther@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Get a Volkswagen, we don't have problems with our safety features.... just a
>few defective parts here and there, and our interiors will beat out the one
>in your Camry even in the cheaper models.....
>
>Message of this reply is, don't cross post to groups that aren't related to
>your TOYOTA CAMRY.


Pretend that it is a VW product. The message posted would be: the
electrics are screwy on my new car. The VW message(s), if any, would
be conflicting and intermittent then go away and then the car would
need a new battery. Did I mention I have owned a few VW products?
Quality is almost as good as Chrysler these days.

BTW, check out the Audi group. You want a tale of woe? A8, $75K USD
and it was delivered broken and Audi won't return calls. Quelle
surprise.
>
>"Sandra" <sandrazlopez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:9e4494ce.0307230859.723231d7@posting.google. com...
>> Hi,
>> I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
>> a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
>> notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
>> this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
>> is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
>> into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
>> car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
>> and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
>> Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
>> state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
>> car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
>> warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
>> particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
>> Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.

>
>


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Old 23 Jul 2003, 05:08 pm   #5 (permalink)
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In the airbag applications I'm familiar with, the "test" consists of
checking for the correct resistance of the detonation element. Anything
that is open in that circuit (wire, connector or the detonation element)
would cause the fault light to appear.

FWIW, I paid money to disable my air bag for the passenger side and
frankly, would not be concerned (that's the way I am) if my airbag
weren't there. The only irritation would be the light being on.

It should be an easy problem to repair. Personally, I've owned several
Toyotas over the years (a Corolla, two Celicas, two pickups and recently
purchased a Solara). I've had very, very few problems with their quality.

b.
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Old 23 Jul 2003, 05:19 pm   #6 (permalink)
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.... My question is this. Why the hell would one post a Camry airbag problem
on the VW forum, among other newsgroups???

VW's have enough of their own problems that are far more interesting then an
airbag problem, especially one that is always one... let us figure out how
to fix our sporadic engine light issues, PLEASE. ;-).
"JJ" <jetta@badcar.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:22:22 -0400, "Rob Guenther"
> <robguenther@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >Get a Volkswagen, we don't have problems with our safety features....

just a
> >few defective parts here and there, and our interiors will beat out the

one
> >in your Camry even in the cheaper models.....
> >
> >Message of this reply is, don't cross post to groups that aren't related

to
> >your TOYOTA CAMRY.

>
> Pretend that it is a VW product. The message posted would be: the
> electrics are screwy on my new car. The VW message(s), if any, would
> be conflicting and intermittent then go away and then the car would
> need a new battery. Did I mention I have owned a few VW products?
> Quality is almost as good as Chrysler these days.
>
> BTW, check out the Audi group. You want a tale of woe? A8, $75K USD
> and it was delivered broken and Audi won't return calls. Quelle
> surprise.
> >
> >"Sandra" <sandrazlopez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:9e4494ce.0307230859.723231d7@posting.google. com...
> >> Hi,
> >> I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
> >> a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
> >> notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
> >> this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
> >> is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
> >> into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
> >> car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
> >> and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
> >> Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
> >> state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
> >> car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
> >> warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
> >> particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
> >> Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.

> >
> >

>



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Old 23 Jul 2003, 05:57 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:19:32 -0400, "Rob Guenther"
<robguenther@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>... My question is this. Why the hell would one post a Camry airbag problem
>on the VW forum, among other newsgroups???
>
>VW's have enough of their own problems that are far more interesting then an
>airbag problem, especially one that is always one... let us figure out how
>to fix our sporadic engine light issues, PLEASE. ;-).


Misery loves company?

The more I ask and search unsenet, blogs and owners I accost in the
parking lots about their cars (I am looking for a new
A4,/C240/S60/TSX) the less I like. Maybe I will just order (no test
drive required) a Camry XLE and be done with it.

Cars. Hate the damn things except when they are new and trouble free.

>"JJ" <jetta@badcar.com> wrote in message
>news:3f1f0327.23557654@news.gv.shawcable.net...
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:22:22 -0400, "Rob Guenther"
>> <robguenther@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >Get a Volkswagen, we don't have problems with our safety features....

>just a
>> >few defective parts here and there, and our interiors will beat out the

>one
>> >in your Camry even in the cheaper models.....
>> >
>> >Message of this reply is, don't cross post to groups that aren't related

>to
>> >your TOYOTA CAMRY.

>>
>> Pretend that it is a VW product. The message posted would be: the
>> electrics are screwy on my new car. The VW message(s), if any, would
>> be conflicting and intermittent then go away and then the car would
>> need a new battery. Did I mention I have owned a few VW products?
>> Quality is almost as good as Chrysler these days.
>>
>> BTW, check out the Audi group. You want a tale of woe? A8, $75K USD
>> and it was delivered broken and Audi won't return calls. Quelle
>> surprise.
>> >
>> >"Sandra" <sandrazlopez@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:9e4494ce.0307230859.723231d7@posting.google. com...
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
>> >> a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
>> >> notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
>> >> this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
>> >> is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
>> >> into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
>> >> car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
>> >> and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
>> >> Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
>> >> state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
>> >> car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
>> >> warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
>> >> particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
>> >> Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>


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Old 23 Jul 2003, 06:36 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:05:45 GMT, still in primer
<superbee73@swfla.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>JJ wrote: snip
>
>> BTW, check out the Audi group. You want a tale of woe? A8, $75K USD
>> and it was delivered broken and Audi won't return calls. Quelle
>> surprise.

>
>
>---------- I cant find this Audi group you talk about. Got Link? -G.
>


alt.autos.audi

Maybe and Accord. Yeah, Accord. Slow and ugly but they used good
bolts, screws, glue and spit to hold it all together. Maybe I should
lease. Hmmmm leasing. But no equity in a depreciating asset. Who ever
came up with the idea that a car is an investment should be made to
fix them for a living.

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Old 23 Jul 2003, 07:09 pm   #9 (permalink)
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I agree with Ed. And do give the dealer some time to prove
himself...or not. Just don't let him take TOO long and keep track of
your warranty time ticking away.

In the meantime, BE SURE you are documenting all this stuff! Dates,
things done at the dealer, receipts, mileage when each thing was done
or problem first noticed, names of people, etc.. Should you NEED this
documentation later on for any court case or for taking it higher up
to Toyota-USA HQ, you'll have solid hardcopy for them to look at (keep
the originals, send copies/scans only!). Even after the warranty is
over, if you can show that a problem existed DURING the warranty, it's
still a valid issue they have to take care of.

Yes, no matter what the brand of car, it can have problems...don't get
too worried too early re: that point, but of course for safety's sake,
DO be sure the sir bag is working. If you only can take the dealer's
word presently -- but the light should NOT be lit -- get it in
writing...again, in case you need it later.

If he won't do that -- and since it could "impact" your life -- don't
be a nice guy any more and demand another car.

Good luck,

John D.





sandrazlopez@yahoo.com (Sandra) wrote in message news:<9e4494ce.0307230859.723231d7@posting.google. com>...
> Hi,
> I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
> a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
> notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
> this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
> is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
> into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
> car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
> and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
> Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
> state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
> car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
> warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
> particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
> Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.

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Old 23 Jul 2003, 11:17 pm   #10 (permalink)
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The 2003 Camry has it's share of problems, probably more so after Toyota
cheapened the design after 1996 like the year we have, and a 96 was only
OK.

Read some of the other messages in the last couple days on: transmission
jerking around 45 MPH because of bad solenoids, brake disc warpage
because they used too small a rotor, oil pan leaking, valve noise as
little as 1000 miles, and wheel alignment problems.

Make sure you anticipate at least these and get them fixed under warranty.

One sad thing is, you bought today's Camry.


Sandra wrote:
> Hi,
> I bought a Toyota Camry, 2003, LE just 3-days back and I already have
> a problem with it. The airbag light remains on all the time. We
> notified the dealer and he said that he will get it fixed. Obviously
> this has got us severly upset because this is a safety issue and there
> is no way to check whether the airbag is actually working till you get
> into an accident!! (unlike other defects)....We bought a brand new
> car...that too a toyota.... because we are concerned about the safety
> and dependibility of the vehicle. . The dealer said that Toyota
> Technicians will do some code check on the car. Then they will do the
> state inspection (the car is brand new). Is it safe to drive such a
> car even after repair...? Plus we have the normal 36,000 miles
> warranty on that, do you recommend extended warranty? can we get this
> particular car replaced by the dealer? What are my options on this?
> Please help, any kind of tips will be useful.....Thanks in advance.


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