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Old 04 Oct 2003, 11:41 am   #1 (permalink)
Joe Golden
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I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to replace the
front pads. What is all the hype about the new ceramic pads that are out
and will they work ok on my Camry?


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Old 05 Oct 2003, 12:25 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"Joe Golden" <joegolden@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to replace the
> front pads. What is all the hype about the new ceramic pads that are out
> and will they work ok on my Camry?
>
>
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As long as the pads are softer than the rotors or discs, it shouldn't
matter. Steel disks may weill be indicated,....opinion only.

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Old 05 Oct 2003, 04:19 pm   #3 (permalink)
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In news:ruYfb.137722$bo1.4508@news-server.bigpond.net.au,
Jason James <flyhi@byplane.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> "Joe Golden" <joegolden@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:9LCfb.1717$WV3.718@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to
> > replace the front pads. What is all the hype about the new
> > ceramic pads that are out and will they work ok on my Camry?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joe Golden

>
> As long as the pads are softer than the rotors or discs, it
> shouldn't matter. Steel disks may weill be indicated,....opinion
> only.
>
> Jason


Ceramic impregnated brake lininings have been used in semi trucks for
years, starting (I believe) in brake shoes. The advantage is their
resistance to fade under very prolonged steady application (ie, long
down grades). How the material would be formumlated and how well it
would work in a light duty application like automobiles might be
quite different.
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Old 05 Oct 2003, 04:41 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:41:41 GMT, "Joe Golden" <joegolden@sbcglobal.net>
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>I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to replace the
>front pads. What is all the hype about the new ceramic pads that are out
>and will they work ok on my Camry?


I just had the old brakes replaced on my '98 Camry, with the new ceramic
pads. I also had to have the rotors replaced - the 'lifetime' metallic
brake pads ate them up. My mechanic told me that the ceramic pads will
be much easier on the rotors and last longer than the old asbestos pads
but not as long as the metallic pads. Rotors aren't cheap so I went for
the ceramics. So far they feel great - braking is nice and smooth.

NRJ
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Old 05 Oct 2003, 07:13 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Joe Golden wrote:
>
> I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to replace the
> front pads. What is all the hype about the new ceramic pads that are out
> and will they work ok on my Camry?


I put ceramic pads on my 1999 Camry LE with new brimbo rotors. Our mechanic claims that
ceramic pads help reduce heat, thus reduces the chances of warping your rotors. So far, I
have been very pleased in that braking distance is still excellent and the rotors are
holding up fine.
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Old 05 Oct 2003, 07:40 pm   #6 (permalink)
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In news:5kf0ovobhlaod1sf58amb2nk2qpvl01q7l@4ax.com,
Navin R. Johnson <TheJerk@optigrab.net> being of bellicose mind
posted:
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:41:41 GMT, "Joe Golden"
> <joegolden@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to
> > replace the front pads. What is all the hype about the new
> > ceramic pads that are out and will they work ok on my Camry?

>
> I just had the old brakes replaced on my '98 Camry, with the new
> ceramic pads. I also had to have the rotors replaced - the
> 'lifetime' metallic brake pads ate them up. My mechanic told me
> that the ceramic pads will be much easier on the rotors and last
> longer than the old asbestos pads but not as long as the metallic
> pads. Rotors aren't cheap so I went for the ceramics. So far they
> feel great - braking is nice and smooth.
>
> NRJ
> "Plan?......... Ain't no plan!"


Navin... you ate the bait, hook line and sinker. There have not
been asbestos brake pads for many many years. "Metallic" pads have a
small mixture of brass, iron filings, and copper in a rope fiber
material. ALL brake pads that you can trust in mountainous driving
WILL wear the rotor. The few that don't are the ones you smell
burning up when you're in a line of cars going down long winding
grades. Those pad materials are JUNK. These low metallic pads are
ok for drivers in flat land states or who drive only in town. Pads
with iron and ceramic powder or shavings in the parent organic
material will fade less but be a bit harder on rotors when you USE
the brakes frequently in mountainous driving. BTW, rotors on many
economy Japanese cars are quite low priced.
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Old 05 Oct 2003, 07:52 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the replies.

"Joe Golden" <joegolden@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to replace the
> front pads. What is all the hype about the new ceramic pads that are out
> and will they work ok on my Camry?
>
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Old 05 Oct 2003, 10:08 pm   #8 (permalink)
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I bought KVR 's Semi Metallic Carbon Fibre pads with Brembo rotors...no more
brake fade....

KVRPerformance.com



"Joe Golden" <joegolden@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:9LCfb.1717$WV3.718@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to replace the
> front pads. What is all the hype about the new ceramic pads that are out
> and will they work ok on my Camry?
>
>
> --
> Joe Golden
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Old 06 Oct 2003, 02:17 am   #9 (permalink)
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In news:3F80B3B6.5AE48E42@highwaay.net,
Owen Funkhouser <funk@highwaay.net> being of bellicose mind posted:
> Joe Golden wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to
> > replace the front pads. What is all the hype about the new
> > ceramic pads that are out and will they work ok on my Camry?

>
> I put ceramic pads on my 1999 Camry LE with new brimbo rotors.
> Our mechanic claims that ceramic pads help reduce heat, thus
> reduces the chances of warping your rotors. So far, I have been
> very pleased in that braking distance is still excellent and the
> rotors are holding up fine.


I would have laughed in your mechanic's face. Heat is a byproduct of
friction and friction is what slows your car. That one friction
material may require less pedal pressure than another to create the
same level of friction varies ... as does the material's resistance
to heat induced fade.
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Old 06 Oct 2003, 02:17 am   #10 (permalink)
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Under what conditions do you think you encounter brake fade?
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>In news:C05gb.2187$oO4.209639@news20.bellglobal.com,
>hlee <leftylee@NOSPAMhotmail.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> I bought KVR 's Semi Metallic Carbon Fibre pads with Brembo
> rotors...no more brake fade....
>
> KVRPerformance.com
>
>
>
> "Joe Golden" <joegolden@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:9LCfb.1717$WV3.718@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> > I have a 2001 Camry LE V-6 with 44000 miles and it is time to
> > replace the front pads. What is all the hype about the new
> > ceramic pads that are out and will they work ok on my Camry?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joe Golden




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