Don't change tranny oil anymore "not spam :)"

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Old 28 Oct 2003, 02:54 pm   #1 (permalink)
Robert Voyles
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Default Don't change tranny oil anymore "not spam :)"

A friend has a 94 CamryV6auto and wanted to change the tranny oil and
filter at 150k miles. Her mechanic says it is too late as the oil is brown
and the new oil would cause her to start having problems.
Any one back this up? (or shoot it down)........BobV


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Old 28 Oct 2003, 03:22 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Don't change tranny oil anymore "not spam :)"

In news:_JAnb.106823$0Z5.85871@lakeread03,
Robert Voyles <sloto@coxx.net> being of bellicose mind posted:
> A friend has a 94 CamryV6auto and wanted to change the tranny
> oil and filter at 150k miles. Her mechanic says it is too late as
> the oil is brown and the new oil would cause her to start having
> problems. Any one back this up? (or shoot it down)........BobV


The old wisdom is .... when a trans rolls in that has been neglected,
as a Shop, you don't want to be the last one to have your hands on
the thing so.... tell the owner whatever BS that will get them to
leave. There is some truth in replacing munged ATF with fresh and
bringing on a shifting problem. So, if you change really foul ATF,
be ready for something to happen that will cost money NOW instead of
a few months down the road.

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~~Philip "Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"




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Old 29 Oct 2003, 11:01 am   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Don't change tranny oil anymore "not spam :)"

I have seen on 3 occasions, old transmissions failing after a fluid change.
(over 90k on the same fluid) The trannys fail between 10k and 15k miles
after the service. American or Foreign, no matter.


"Philip " <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> In news:_JAnb.106823$0Z5.85871@lakeread03,
> Robert Voyles <sloto@coxx.net> being of bellicose mind posted:
> > A friend has a 94 CamryV6auto and wanted to change the tranny
> > oil and filter at 150k miles. Her mechanic says it is too late as
> > the oil is brown and the new oil would cause her to start having
> > problems. Any one back this up? (or shoot it down)........BobV

>
> The old wisdom is .... when a trans rolls in that has been neglected,
> as a Shop, you don't want to be the last one to have your hands on
> the thing so.... tell the owner whatever BS that will get them to
> leave. There is some truth in replacing munged ATF with fresh and
> bringing on a shifting problem. So, if you change really foul ATF,
> be ready for something to happen that will cost money NOW instead of
> a few months down the road.
>
> --
>
> ~~Philip "Never let school interfere
> with your education - Mark Twain"
>
>
>
>



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Old 29 Oct 2003, 11:49 am   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Don't change tranny oil anymore "not spam :)"

TWO things you do -not- know: a) that the transmission would have
failed within the "10k-15k mile" period ANYWAY and... b) you do not
know if the new fluid contributed to the transmission's demise. Stop
and think about WHY anyone would bring in an "old" and "neglected"
transmission for a fluid and filter change in the first place.

The reason a service shop would rather not touch a neglected
automatic is that in the shop's view, transmission failure is on the
horizon and they do not want to be the "last person who touched it."
--

~~Philip "Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

>In news:vpvsig78ci5nd7@corp.supernews.com,
>kevin <kreipe@hotmail.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> I have seen on 3 occasions, old transmissions failing after a
> fluid change. (over 90k on the same fluid) The trannys fail
> between 10k and 15k miles after the service. American or Foreign,
> no matter.
>
>
> "Philip " <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:H6Bnb.5629$Px2.4962@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > In news:_JAnb.106823$0Z5.85871@lakeread03,
> > Robert Voyles <sloto@coxx.net> being of bellicose mind posted:
> > > A friend has a 94 CamryV6auto and wanted to change the tranny
> > > oil and filter at 150k miles. Her mechanic says it is too late
> > > as the oil is brown and the new oil would cause her to start
> > > having problems. Any one back this up? (or shoot it
> > > down)........BobV

> >
> > The old wisdom is .... when a trans rolls in that has been
> > neglected, as a Shop, you don't want to be the last one to have
> > your hands on the thing so.... tell the owner whatever BS that
> > will get them to leave. There is some truth in replacing
> > munged ATF with fresh and bringing on a shifting problem. So,
> > if you change really foul ATF, be ready for something to happen
> > that will cost money NOW instead of a few months down the road.
> >
> > --
> >
> > ~~Philip "Never let school interfere
> > with your education - Mark
> > Twain"




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Old 29 Oct 2003, 02:16 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"Robert Voyles" <sloto@coxx.net> wrote in message
news:_JAnb.106823$0Z5.85871@lakeread03...
> A friend has a 94 CamryV6auto and wanted to change the tranny oil and
> filter at 150k miles. Her mechanic says it is too late as the oil is brown
> and the new oil would cause her to start having problems.
> Any one back this up? (or shoot it down)........BobV

<snip>

OK, thanks for the input Kevin and Phillip.
I suppose it is similar to flushing the crank case on a hi mileage eng.
(might loosen up mung on worn parts that were being kept in tolerance by the
mung).
Think I will advise to change the oil and filter, and pray (or what ever).
Seems to me that NEVER changing the oil again is insuring probs eventually.
BobV


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Old 25 Nov 2003, 11:48 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Don't change tranny oil anymore "not spam :)"

Try changing it twice within 2 months. That way if any sticky crap or any
metal shavings let go again with the new fluid in, you can flush that stuff
out too. Just a thought.


"Robert Voyles" <sloto@coxx.net> wrote in message
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> "Robert Voyles" <sloto@coxx.net> wrote in message
> news:_JAnb.106823$0Z5.85871@lakeread03...
> > A friend has a 94 CamryV6auto and wanted to change the tranny oil and
> > filter at 150k miles. Her mechanic says it is too late as the oil is

brown
> > and the new oil would cause her to start having problems.
> > Any one back this up? (or shoot it down)........BobV

> <snip>
>
> OK, thanks for the input Kevin and Phillip.
> I suppose it is similar to flushing the crank case on a hi mileage eng.
> (might loosen up mung on worn parts that were being kept in tolerance by

the
> mung).
> Think I will advise to change the oil and filter, and pray (or what

ever).
> Seems to me that NEVER changing the oil again is insuring probs

eventually.
> BobV
>
>



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