87 Camry Tranny Problem

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Old 07 Nov 2003, 12:12 pm   #1 (permalink)
Medora2
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I've got an 87 Camry wagon with 160k miles and still runs pretty well.
Except that the auto transmission is starting to act up a bit. I'm not sure
if a big problem is on the way or maybe just a minor issue such as the
Torque converter solenoid or sensor needs replacing. The transmission has
the following issues-

1. Tranny gets very jerky in the 45-48mph range. Especially when
decelerating.

2. Most of the time, the car starts off from a stop with plenty of power.
But sometimes it will seem to barely move no matter how hard the gas pedal
is pushed....tho it quickly gets back to speed after a minute or so.

3. The O/D OFF signal (overdrive off) has recently been flashing on and
off.

Any suggestions appreciated.


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Old 07 Nov 2003, 01:34 pm   #2 (permalink)
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i don't want to scare you, but....

i had an 87 camry(sedan), and in spring 02 it began doing that. she had
216K miles on her.
she drove that way for about 2 weeks. i was super busy with a job that
required me 24/7 and didn't have time to get her to the shop. one afternoon
i pulled into my driveway and she never did work again. the tranny was shot.

i was 19 and didn't have the money for a new transmission at the time but
need transportation immediately. i had to sell her to a mechanic friend and
purchase an 89 camry sedan.

I'd give anything to have her back. she was a great car. i hope you have
better luck, sorry i couldn't really pinpoint a problem. but those were her
exact symptoms before the tranny kicked. lemme know what turns up.
-daniel

"Medora2" <dsunger@shentel.net> wrote in message
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> I've got an 87 Camry wagon with 160k miles and still runs pretty well.
> Except that the auto transmission is starting to act up a bit. I'm not

sure
> if a big problem is on the way or maybe just a minor issue such as the
> Torque converter solenoid or sensor needs replacing. The transmission has
> the following issues-
>
> 1. Tranny gets very jerky in the 45-48mph range. Especially when
> decelerating.
>
> 2. Most of the time, the car starts off from a stop with plenty of

power.
> But sometimes it will seem to barely move no matter how hard the gas pedal
> is pushed....tho it quickly gets back to speed after a minute or so.
>
> 3. The O/D OFF signal (overdrive off) has recently been flashing on and
> off.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
>



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Old 07 Nov 2003, 04:33 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"scott" <commie1492@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> i don't want to scare you, but....
> i had an 87 camry(sedan), and in spring 02 it began doing that. she had
> 216K miles on her.
> she drove that way for about 2 weeks. i was super busy with a job that
> required me 24/7 and didn't have time to get her to the shop. one

afternoon
> i pulled into my driveway and she never did work again. the tranny was

shot.

Maybe it's not quite that bad. This has been going on for around 4,000
miles and it's still running OK. We took a 2,000 mile trip during this time
and things haven't changed during that time.
I'm just not sure what's going on. There is a solenoid involved in the
transmission- torque converter lockout solenoid ( I think). This solenoid is
supposed to activate by sensor at higher speeds and save some drivetrain
effort. Maybe the solenoid or sensor has gone bad or is sticking. Not too
hard to replace or so I'm hoping.


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Old 08 Nov 2003, 11:11 am   #4 (permalink)
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"Medora2" <dsunger@shentel.net> wrote in message
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> "scott" <commie1492@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vtSqb.15516$9M3.3918@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > i don't want to scare you, but....
> > i had an 87 camry(sedan), and in spring 02 it began doing that. she had
> > 216K miles on her.
> > she drove that way for about 2 weeks. i was super busy with a job that
> > required me 24/7 and didn't have time to get her to the shop. one

> afternoon
> > i pulled into my driveway and she never did work again. the tranny was

> shot.
>
> Maybe it's not quite that bad. This has been going on for around 4,000
> miles and it's still running OK. We took a 2,000 mile trip during this

time
> and things haven't changed during that time.
> I'm just not sure what's going on. There is a solenoid involved in the
> transmission- torque converter lockout solenoid ( I think). This solenoid

is
> supposed to activate by sensor at higher speeds and save some drivetrain
> effort. Maybe the solenoid or sensor has gone bad or is sticking. Not too
> hard to replace or so I'm hoping.


That solenoid works hard. It can be diagnosed by watching the tachometer as
your car changes into 3rd (with or without OD selected). Once in top-gear
and the throttle/accelerator is steady, the tacho will drop revs as the
torque convertor goes into lock-up. If the tacho remains steady, then the
lockup solenoid maybe inoperative.

Jason


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Old 08 Nov 2003, 02:21 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"Jason James" <flyhi@byplane.com> wrote in message
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> That solenoid works hard. It can be diagnosed by watching the tachometer

as
> your car changes into 3rd (with or without OD selected). Once in top-gear
> and the throttle/accelerator is steady, the tacho will drop revs as the
> torque convertor goes into lock-up. If the tacho remains steady, then the
> lockup solenoid maybe inoperative.


Thanks for the good response.
This car doesn't have the tachometer option. However, it sounds like it
might be worth just trying to replace that solenoid because the car is very
good running condition otherwise (powerful, good body, oil clean at 2500
miles after change). Carquest generally has good quality replacement parts.
Any other suggestions to diagnose the solenoid without tach?


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Old 09 Nov 2003, 06:46 am   #6 (permalink)
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"Medora2" <dsunger@shentel.net> wrote in message news:<afcrb.3636$gl3.1009057832@twister2.starband. net>...

> Any other suggestions to diagnose the solenoid without tach?


Not sure about your model year, but next Generation flashes a specific
code for a malfunctioning solenoid.
If you can read the code by counting the number of flashes, like 41 or
31, the dealer should be able to confirm for you, or perhaps someone
in this group could look it up in the factory manual if you post it
here.
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