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Old 10 Nov 2003, 09:29 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there:
I have a '93 Camry V6 LE with 193k km. For a while I have been having
this problem with the front end - there is a thumping noise going over
the unever road (pretty much any road in Montreal area), seems to be
happening when the wheel(s) are moving down - say, after the tip of the
speed bump. Stabilizer bar bushings are new, rubber rings (isolators) on
the struts are new, struts are year old Sensatracks, upper bumpers on
struts are new. Wheels are firm when car is jacked (no play). So, I'm
running low on ideas where to look next. Suggestions are welcome :-)

BTW, car was with dealer some months ago, and they quoted 1200+tax to
replace the parts mentioned. Have I missed something there?
TIA,
Zbysko

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Old 11 Nov 2003, 09:03 am   #2 (permalink)
Daniel M. Dreifus
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Zbysko <z@no.net> wrote in message news:<3FB057B0.2020004@no.net>...
> Hi there:
> I have a '93 Camry V6 LE with 193k km. For a while I have been having
> this problem with the front end - there is a thumping noise going over
> the unever road


The front struts are bolted to the steering knuckle, so when the
wheels turn, the struts turn. The upper end of the shaft from the
struts is bolted to the upper strut mount which includes a bearing.
This upper strut mount is bolted directly to the metal body of the car
such that any play in the upper strut mount is transmitted as noise
to the body.
This is a common problem, and there is an improved part to replace
your upper strut mounts.
The price you were quoted included new struts also.
To replace the strut mounts you need a spring compressor (potentially
dangerous as it contains the force necessary to support the weight of
the vehicle) and to remove the struts.
Retail on the "strut supports" or "strut caps" when I had mine done in
2001 was $81.70 each, plus labor.
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Old 11 Nov 2003, 09:30 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Daniel M. Dreifus wrote:
> Zbysko <z@no.net> wrote in message news:<3FB057B0.2020004@no.net>...
>
>>Hi there:
>>I have a '93 Camry V6 LE with 193k km. For a while I have been having
>>this problem with the front end - there is a thumping noise going over
>>the unever road

>
>
> The front struts are bolted to the steering knuckle, so when the
> wheels turn, the struts turn. The upper end of the shaft from the
> struts is bolted to the upper strut mount which includes a bearing.
> This upper strut mount is bolted directly to the metal body of the car
> such that any play in the upper strut mount is transmitted as noise
> to the body.
> This is a common problem, and there is an improved part to replace
> your upper strut mounts.
> The price you were quoted included new struts also.
> To replace the strut mounts you need a spring compressor (potentially
> dangerous as it contains the force necessary to support the weight of
> the vehicle) and to remove the struts.
> Retail on the "strut supports" or "strut caps" when I had mine done in
> 2001 was $81.70 each, plus labor.


Thanks Daniel;
When I replaced the rubber spring seats (insulators, as Toyota calls
them) I looked at the mounts, admittedly not in detail, but they seemed
pretty much OK. I was not aware that there is a bearing inside the
mount, I thought that strut body rotates arond the damper shaft, which
would then be fixed at the top. Thanks again for the tip, now I know
what to do next :-)
And yes, price quoted to me included parts, but that is still way much
more than I paid for the parts (and my six hours of amateur labor)...
Zbysko

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