Witness: 'Shame on you, Toyota, for being so greedy'

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Old 23 Feb 2010, 07:32 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Some excellent testimony videos. Looks like Toyota USA is only a sales
front, no engineering know-how, manufacturing or safety recall
decisions (all done in Japan). And that Lentz guy doesn't seem to know
anything but sales. What a shame.

Videos on: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...38073#35549366
Under Business -> Autos

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...ing-so-greedy-
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Old 23 Feb 2010, 10:34 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:32:16 -0800, john wrote:

> Some excellent testimony videos. Looks like Toyota USA is only a sales
> front, no engineering know-how, manufacturing or safety recall decisions
> (all done in Japan). And that Lentz guy doesn't seem to know anything but
> sales. What a shame.
>
> Videos on: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...38073#35549366 Under
> Business -> Autos
>
> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...ing-so-greedy-



Is this the lady that couldn't stop her car, even in neutral?


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Old 24 Feb 2010, 09:33 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On Feb 23, 8:32*pm, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Some excellent testimony videos.


yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays

rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
their cars after they began to accelerate.
them, I'd like to hear.

(did Woz just turn off his cruise control?)
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Old 24 Feb 2010, 10:09 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:33:10 -0800, ACAR wrote:

> On Feb 23, 8:32*pm, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Some excellent testimony videos.

>
> yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
>
> rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how about
> a few stories from people who were able to successfully control their cars
> after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to hear.
>
> (did Woz just turn off his cruise control?)



HEY! Leave Woz alone! His Prius rocketed from 35-100 in just 60 minutes!


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Old 25 Feb 2010, 05:55 am   #5 (permalink)
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ACAR <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote in news:5f427ba2-ea8a-4d50-83ed-
b10e57bd7c02@c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 23, 8:32*pm, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Some excellent testimony videos.

>
> yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
>
> rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
> about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
> their cars after they began to accelerate.
> them, I'd like to hear.
>




There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.

Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
immediately before the cop.


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Old 25 Feb 2010, 06:19 am   #6 (permalink)
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Normally - CEOs act as the lead Public relations/sales manager
of a firm - the best they can do is either deny something, agree
with you, or say they'll get back to you with an answer later.
Having CEO appear before Congress - is not going to be a
fact-finding-hearing but more of a public grievance and tongue
lashing session. Which is what happens in most public
hearing (the outcome is already pre-determined by actions
occuring outside and before the public hearing ).


For immediate answers for a technical qustion - the two persons
in manufacturing that are much more likely to know the answer
on the spot are the Project/Lead R&D Engineer and the
Project/Lead Testing Engineer for a particular product. While
some Toyotas are not made in Japan - they are all designed,
developed, and tested in Japan so all the engineers would
most likely need a Japanese Translator who specialized
in translating computer technology, engineering, and
scientific works ( who probably would also be an engineer
or scientist as well). Needless to say Toyota's engineers and
Dr. David Gilbert are not in agreement at this time.





On Feb 23, 8:32*pm, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Some excellent testimony videos. Looks like Toyota USA is only a sales
> front, no engineering know-how, manufacturing or safety recall
> decisions (all done in Japan). And that Lentz guy doesn't seem to know
> anything but sales. What a shame.
>
> Videos on:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...38073#35549366
> Under Business -> Autos
>
> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...402/1148/auto0...


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Old 25 Feb 2010, 06:57 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:55:33 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> ACAR <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote in news:5f427ba2-ea8a-4d50-83ed-
> b10e57bd7c02@c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Feb 23, 8:32*pm, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Some excellent testimony videos.

>>
>> yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
>>
>> rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
>> about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
>> their cars after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to hear.
>>
>>

>
>
> There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.
>
> Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
> immediately before the cop.



The 'very same car' the cop got killed in was a Lexus...


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Old 25 Feb 2010, 07:06 pm   #8 (permalink)
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=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@e86.GTS>
wrote in news:hm769b$stp$7@news.eternal-september.org:

> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:55:33 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>
>> ACAR <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:5f427ba2-ea8a-4d50-83ed-
>> b10e57bd7c02@c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Feb 23, 8:32*pm, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Some excellent testimony videos.
>>>
>>> yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
>>>
>>> rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
>>> about a few stories from people who were able to successfully
>>> control their cars after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to
>>> hear.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.
>>
>> Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
>> immediately before the cop.

>
>
> The 'very same car' the cop got killed in was a Lexus...
>
>
>



Sorry, "Lexus". I forgot.

Statement above is still correct. Just substitute "Lexus" for "Camry".


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Old 25 Feb 2010, 07:20 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:06:48 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote
> in news:hm769b$stp$7@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:55:33 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> ACAR <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:5f427ba2-ea8a-4d50-83ed-
>>> b10e57bd7c02@c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 8:32*pm, john <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Some excellent testimony videos.
>>>>
>>>> yeah, if you like Audi 5000 replays
>>>>
>>>> rather than a parade of people whose stories strain credibility how
>>>> about a few stories from people who were able to successfully control
>>>> their cars after they began to accelerate. them, I'd like to hear.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> There's the story from the man that drove the Camry in San Diego.
>>>
>>> Not the cop that died, but the driver who had that very same car
>>> immediately before the cop.

>>
>>
>> The 'very same car' the cop got killed in was a Lexus...
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> Sorry, "Lexus". I forgot.
>
> Statement above is still correct. Just substitute "Lexus" for "Camry".



OK. I was worried for a second!


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