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Old 02 Mar 2004, 03:57 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, all,

I test drove two 2004 new Camry this morning. The major concern for me
on the basic LE 4 cyl auto tranny model is the soft brake. Now I
understand why some people say those soft brakes on Camry can make you
heart attack some time. The other vehicle, SE V6 auto tranny, doesn't
seem to have this problem (maybe they thought the people driving a
sporty Camry needs a more responsive brake

I wonder what mechanical mechanism causes those soft brakes and if
they can be tuned by the dealer or a mechanic after the purchase.
Thanks.

Patrick
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Old 02 Mar 2004, 09:45 pm   #2 (permalink)
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In article <d8a7e954.0403021357.11c26cae@posting.google.com >, Patrick
<egf_repeats@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> I test drove two 2004 new Camry this morning. The major concern for me
> on the basic LE 4 cyl auto tranny model is the soft brake. Now I
> understand why some people say those soft brakes on Camry can make you
> heart attack some time. The other vehicle, SE V6 auto tranny, doesn't
> seem to have this problem (maybe they thought the people driving a
> sporty Camry needs a more responsive brake
>
> I wonder what mechanical mechanism causes those soft brakes and if
> they can be tuned by the dealer or a mechanic after the purchase.
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick


I bought a new 2003 Camry XLE right before the 04's were released.
My brakes were very soft also, so much that they said it was dangerous
to drive and that I needed a new Master cylinder. It is much better
now, don't have the "heart attacks" when trying to stop. I have
notcied that when going over a bump and then applying the brakes, the
anti-lock systems kicks in, sometimes it can be a little unnerving!
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Old 03 Mar 2004, 09:58 am   #3 (permalink)
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Oops, "master cylinder"? That doesn't sound a good news. So the dealer
replaced a new master cylinder for you on a brand new Camry?

I wonder if there is something you can tune in the brake system instead of
replacing a new master cylinder, the heart of the brake system as far
as I know.

Stevie Ray <stevieray@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<020320042145280092%stevieray@hotmail.com>...
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> I bought a new 2003 Camry XLE right before the 04's were released.
> My brakes were very soft also, so much that they said it was dangerous
> to drive and that I needed a new Master cylinder. It is much better
> now, don't have the "heart attacks" when trying to stop. I have
> notcied that when going over a bump and then applying the brakes, the
> anti-lock systems kicks in, sometimes it can be a little unnerving!

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Old 03 Mar 2004, 11:15 am   #4 (permalink)
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"Patrick" <egf_repeats@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d8a7e954.0403030758.2a0fcb31@posting.google.c om...
> Oops, "master cylinder"? That doesn't sound a good news. So the dealer
> replaced a new master cylinder for you on a brand new Camry?
>
> I wonder if there is something you can tune in the brake system instead of
> replacing a new master cylinder, the heart of the brake system as far
> as I know.


By ' soft' brakes you mean the brake pedal has a spongy feel ? Unless all
Camrys of that model have the same feel, there is little that can be done.
There is a reaction- washer in the power brake-booster which has a direct
effect on pedal-feel. Whether this is the cause and not just that particular
car having air in its hydraulics,..I don't know.

See if you can drive another car of the same year and model to compare.


Jason


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Old 03 Mar 2004, 09:23 pm   #5 (permalink)
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egf_repeats@hotmail.com (Patrick) wrote in message news:<d8a7e954.0403021357.11c26cae@posting.google. com>...
> Hi, all,
>
> I test drove two 2004 new Camry this morning. The major concern for me
> on the basic LE 4 cyl auto tranny model is the soft brake. Now I
> understand why some people say those soft brakes on Camry can make you
> heart attack some time. The other vehicle, SE V6 auto tranny, doesn't
> seem to have this problem (maybe they thought the people driving a
> sporty Camry needs a more responsive brake
>
> I wonder what mechanical mechanism causes those soft brakes and if
> they can be tuned by the dealer or a mechanic after the purchase.
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick


I got the front brake pads replaced on my '02 SE V6 Auto. When I left
the dealer, the brake pedal did feel soft and spongy, and did travel
very far. I drove right back, and the shop rep told me that it's
normal, and that it will take a little while for the feel to return to
normal. "It's just the nature of the beast!" were his words.

He was right, the brakes firmed up within the same day.

--Ibrahim
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