Delayed shifts 95 Corolla

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Old 04 Mar 2004, 09:45 pm   #1 (permalink)
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This is the -A131 3 speed auto. Both 1-2 and 2-3 shifts are delayed.
Have to rev up pretty good and let off the throttle to get the shifts
to go. Manual low to 2 acts the same as well as manual 2-3. Flushed
the filter screen and ran 2 gallons of fluid through to no avail.
Sticky governer? TV cable? Any help is appreciated. BTW, 150,000
miles.

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Old 04 Mar 2004, 11:12 pm   #2 (permalink)
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In news:1e84207f.0403041945.67b7be38@posting.google.c om,
Brian <bjgl1@msn.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> This is the -A131 3 speed auto. Both 1-2 and 2-3 shifts are
> delayed. Have to rev up pretty good and let off the throttle to
> get the shifts to go. Manual low to 2 acts the same as well as
> manual 2-3. Flushed the filter screen and ran 2 gallons of fluid
> through to no avail. Sticky governer? TV cable? Any help is
> appreciated. BTW, 150,000 miles.
>
> Brian


First check the Throttle Valve cable adjustment. It IS possible for
the cable to get *partially* out of its groove on the bell crank down
at the valve body end which has the same effect as shortening the
cable adjustment (raises shift points). To check this requires
removing the pan. It is also easy to partially unseat the TV cable
at the bottom end while replacing the filter/screen. Be careful.
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Old 05 Mar 2004, 04:22 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message news:<6%>
> First check the Throttle Valve cable adjustment. It IS possible for
> the cable to get *partially* out of its groove on the bell crank down
> at the valve body end which has the same effect as shortening the
> cable adjustment (raises shift points). To check this requires
> removing the pan. It is also easy to partially unseat the TV cable
> at the bottom end while replacing the filter/screen. Be careful.



Thanks, I'll take the pan off again and have a look. I have the
factory manual and saw some pics and a description of that area (for
cable replacement), but it didn't make much sense to me. I have
another '95 with the 1.8 and E245 trans, and the routing of the tv
cable is different. This one is a 1.6 and the tv cable routes up and
right over and around the air cleaner cover, but I can't find any pics
to show me if this is where it's supposed to be or not. Any idea on
that? I'll dig into it again.

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Old 05 Mar 2004, 09:20 pm   #4 (permalink)
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In news:1e84207f.0403051422.8dbd4e4@posting.google.co m,
Brian <bjgl1@msn.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> "Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:<6%>
> > First check the Throttle Valve cable adjustment. It IS possible
> > for the cable to get *partially* out of its groove on the bell
> > crank down at the valve body end which has the same effect as
> > shortening the cable adjustment (raises shift points). To check
> > this requires removing the pan. It is also easy to partially
> > unseat the TV cable at the bottom end while replacing the
> > filter/screen. Be careful.

>
>
> Thanks, I'll take the pan off again and have a look. I have the
> factory manual and saw some pics and a description of that area
> (for cable replacement), but it didn't make much sense to me. I
> have
> another '95 with the 1.8 and E245 trans, and the routing of the tv
> cable is different. This one is a 1.6 and the tv cable routes up
> and right over and around the air cleaner cover, but I can't find
> any pics to show me if this is where it's supposed to be or not.
> Any idea on that? I'll dig into it again.
>
> Brian


Rule of thumb for cables: No sharp bends and do not secure a cable
to something fixed. Cables are living, moving, links between points
that must be free to move around. ;-)
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Old 06 Mar 2004, 07:39 am   #5 (permalink)
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> Rule of thumb for cables: No sharp bends and do not secure a cable
> to something fixed. Cables are living, moving, links between points
> that must be free to move around. ;-)


I think I have it fixed. All I can figure is it is a replacement TV
cable because the "stopper" on the throttle end was staked onto the
cable at least 5/8 inch too far down the cable. The TV would not come
close to a full return before the stopper jammed into the cable
housing. The throttle (body) would only go to maybe 3/4 open before
the TV travel stopped in the trans!! I have to talk to the owner yet
as I have no idea how long this has been this way. I re-routed the
cable like it is on my car and ends up in the same location as well.
A little tweaking with the adjustment and the car shifts just fine
now. Thank you for all your help.

Brian
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Old 06 Mar 2004, 09:26 am   #6 (permalink)
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In news:1e84207f.0403060539.5abd13f7@posting.google.c om,
Brian <bjgl1@msn.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> > Rule of thumb for cables: No sharp bends and do not secure a
> > cable to something fixed. Cables are living, moving, links
> > between points that must be free to move around. ;-)

>
> I think I have it fixed. All I can figure is it is a replacement
> TV cable because the "stopper" on the throttle end was staked onto
> the cable at least 5/8 inch too far down the cable. The TV would
> not come close to a full return before the stopper jammed into the
> cable housing. The throttle (body) would only go to maybe 3/4
> open before the TV travel stopped in the trans!! I have to talk
> to the owner yet as I have no idea how long this has been this
> way. I re-routed the cable like it is on my car and ends up in
> the same location as well. A little tweaking with the adjustment
> and the car shifts just fine now. Thank you for all your help.
>
> Brian


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