Re: Clutch Problems with '97 Camry

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Old 31 Mar 2004, 11:06 pm   #1 (permalink)
Sudipto Ghosh
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Thanks Mike (#4) & Wolfgang (#5).

Mike,
No, the terrain where I live is not hilly & neither am I in constant
stop & go traffic. This is also not my first manual transmission
either. So that leaves your other question as to whether I am a clutch
rider or not ? Not fully sure what you mean by that but if you are
asking whether I drive, with my left foot constantly pressing the
clutch pedal, then no. In fact over the last couple of years both
myself & my wife are very conscious of this fact & try to take utmost
care with the clutch.

Wolfgang,
> Are you slipping the clutch when starting off ?

Really not sure what you mean by that. Please elaborate.

>Using it to brake the car

No

> Speed shifting to break loose the tires ?

Again not sure what you mean by that. But one thing I do is say I am
on the highway & about to take the next exit. Then instead of
successively changing gears from 5, 4, 3 ,2 ..., I put the car into
neutral strainght away. My reasoning being, less gear change, means
less amout of time the clutch is pressed.

> Towing something, driving in San Francisco, driving with your foot on the
> clutch petal, stop and go NYC traffic?

No, No, No, No.

> What makes you believe they needed to be replaced? Was car reving but not
> picking up speed especially in higher gears?

Yes, that was the case the first 3 times. This time the Toyota
dearlership from where I went for the oil change said so though I did
not feel anything yet while driving. But given the recent history, I
would tend to believe him.

> Did you see the worn clutch plates.

I have the the clutch from the last time it was changed. Not sure what
to look for or how to tell what is worn out.

> Did you also replace the pressure plate and throw-out bearing? What about the
> hydralic cylinders? Petal free play can be adjusted too.

Not sure of all this. But all the time the replacement was done at
quite reputable places (twice at Toyota dealerships). I guess they
would/should have done that. But I don't know. (You can see that I am
a complete novice in such things.)

> With that expense I'd go for an automatic next time.

For sure. Though I have been driving 5-speed for last 12 years,
never again am I going to buy another one.
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Old 01 Apr 2004, 07:28 am   #2 (permalink)
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I wonder if your rear main seal has started to leak and
put a little oil on your flywheel/clutch causing some
slippage...
Go for an automatic next time. They get about the same
mileage, never have to worry about clutches, have better
resale value and shift smoother than I ever could.
Of course starting from hills is not a white knuckle
adventure with an automatic.
You will not spill as much coffee while driving too!
Rob.
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Old 01 Apr 2004, 09:48 am   #3 (permalink)
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In news:20040401082807.07753.00000504@mb-m18.aol.com,
ROBMURR <robmurr@aol.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> I wonder if your rear main seal has started to leak and
> put a little oil on your flywheel/clutch causing some
> slippage...
> Go for an automatic next time. They get about the same
> mileage, never have to worry about clutches, have better
> resale value and shift smoother than I ever could.
> Of course starting from hills is not a white knuckle
> adventure with an automatic.
> You will not spill as much coffee while driving too!
> Rob.


With centrifugal force and a flywheel between the rear main seal and
the clutch friction disc, how does oil find its way to the friction
disc?
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- Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM


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Old 04 Apr 2004, 12:28 am   #4 (permalink)
Jason James
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"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:jRWac.11146$lt2.1566@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> In news:20040401082807.07753.00000504@mb-m18.aol.com,
> ROBMURR <robmurr@aol.com> being of bellicose mind posted:
> > I wonder if your rear main seal has started to leak and
> > put a little oil on your flywheel/clutch causing some
> > slippage...
> > Go for an automatic next time. They get about the same
> > mileage, never have to worry about clutches, have better
> > resale value and shift smoother than I ever could.
> > Of course starting from hills is not a white knuckle
> > adventure with an automatic.
> > You will not spill as much coffee while driving too!
> > Rob.

>
> With centrifugal force and a flywheel between the rear main seal and
> the clutch friction disc, how does oil find its way to the friction
> disc?
> --
>
> - Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM


My theory is: as the oil works its way past the knackered rear main-seal it
does indeed meet the flywheel which flings it on to the bell-housing where
it eventually drips down onto the clutch. No doubt Phil you have seen quite
a few greasy oily clutch housings (bellhousing for those of British motoring
venacular).

Mine has oil on the clutch courtesy of oil-change abuse causing the rear
main to go hard. While it doesn't judder (vibrate) much around town due to
lower flywheel speeds, after a long trip in summer, it returns :-(

Jason

Jason


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