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Old 01 Apr 2004, 06:22 pm   #1 (permalink)
David
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Today, the odometer on my 92 Camry V-6 LE passed the goal I set for the car,
300,000 miles. At this point, the car owes me nothing. I'd try to push a
bit further, but I was in a car accident a few months ago and repairs to the
hood and front end would run me 1500 dollars, so I think it is time to move
on. This is the best car I have ever owned, despite a few minor issues.
The following is a list of complaints/issues/repairs I have made to the car
over the years.

1. Innumerable retractable antennae. Looks great but doesn't last when it
has to go up and down several times a day. Motor still works though.

2. Retractable seatbelt. The springs just wear out and don't retract. Not
worth fixing, but Toyota seems to have problems with things that retracct
(see number 1)

3. 2 sets of oxygen sensors.

4. Squeaky rear bushings. I just turned up the radio and drowned out the
noise for 300k.

5. Radio/Cassette deck. Reception was never great and the cassette died
after approximately 8 years. This made complaint #4 more annoying.

6. Driver side window regulator/motor. This died at approximately 160k
miles. I live in NJ and would have to open and close the driver's window 6
times a day to pay tolls on the Garden State Parkway, so I can't blame
Toyota.

7. At 160K miles, the key wore down and got stuck in the ignition. About
300 dollars to have ignition lock changed.

8. Starter motor needed replacement at 200K miles.

9. Power steering pump seized at 200K.

10.Changed the timing belt at 120K miles. Still on the second belt and
original water pump.

11.Knock sensor died at 160K miles. This was annoying and shouldn't have
died. Repair and replacement was approximately 800 dollars, as I recall.

12.The original Dunlop D80 V4 lasted only 20K miles. The car ate a second
pair of Dunlop SP4000. Overinflating the tires by approximately 2psi solved
future problems as did changing to H rated Dunlops. Got 60K per set after
making changes.

13.First set of front brake pads at 120K. Full set and rotors at 260 K
miles. Needed new rear calipers at same time. My fault. I didn't change
brake fluid for the first 7 years.

14.Annoying lights that died in radio/clock so I couldn't see what time it
was or the radio station.

15.Dim headlights that never threw a good pattern. The plastic covers
clouded with age/time exascerbating the problem.

16.Hood pressure struts at approximately 9 years.

17. Car has original struts, engine mounts, exhaust, etc. AC works great.
No leaks in cooling system. Everything else original.

I hate to part with the beast, but it is time for perhaps a new 95? Camry!
Thoughts?


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Old 01 Apr 2004, 07:49 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Good long term report on your Camry!
Anything with 300,000 miles will have
a few things go wrong with it..
When you bought that car originally
you really bought 2 cars or the life
of 2 cars...Most american cars if they
even made it to 150,000 would be ready
for the scrapper...I hope to get 250,000+
out of my 1997..I have 175,000 so far
with very few problems...
Pick out a new or good used one and
drive it 300,000 more!
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Old 01 Apr 2004, 10:46 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Great report. I myself have a 92 V6 LE and haven't had as many probs as you,
but I only have 100K miles on mine. Just to list my probs:

1. Antenna didn't retract - Replaced with Honda S2000 antenna
2. Seatbelt doesn't retract
3. Squeaky rear bushings as well...bought an aftermarket rear anti-sway bar
with polyurethane bushings. A quick fix for you is to put in some white
lithium grease in there.
4. Radio/cassette sucked, replaced with aftermarket Pioneer unit.
5. Window goes down slow, but still ok.
6. CV boots ripped, changed
7. Suspension got soft, changed to H&R springs and KYB struts.
8. Valve covers leak oil, ahh, not a big deal.

Everything else mechanical has been absolutely perfect. No engine, brake,
steering or suspension probls...car runs amazing. Couldn't ask for a more
reliable car than this. I really think they over engineered the 92
Camry.....


"David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Today, the odometer on my 92 Camry V-6 LE passed the goal I set for the car,
300,000 miles. At this point, the car owes me nothing. I'd try to push a
bit further, but I was in a car accident a few months ago and repairs to the
hood and front end would run me 1500 dollars, so I think it is time to move
on. This is the best car I have ever owned, despite a few minor issues.
The following is a list of complaints/issues/repairs I have made to the car
over the years.

1. Innumerable retractable antennae. Looks great but doesn't last when it
has to go up and down several times a day. Motor still works though.

2. Retractable seatbelt. The springs just wear out and don't retract. Not
worth fixing, but Toyota seems to have problems with things that retracct
(see number 1)

3. 2 sets of oxygen sensors.

4. Squeaky rear bushings. I just turned up the radio and drowned out the
noise for 300k.

5. Radio/Cassette deck. Reception was never great and the cassette died
after approximately 8 years. This made complaint #4 more annoying.

6. Driver side window regulator/motor. This died at approximately 160k
miles. I live in NJ and would have to open and close the driver's window 6
times a day to pay tolls on the Garden State Parkway, so I can't blame
Toyota.

7. At 160K miles, the key wore down and got stuck in the ignition. About
300 dollars to have ignition lock changed.

8. Starter motor needed replacement at 200K miles.

9. Power steering pump seized at 200K.

10.Changed the timing belt at 120K miles. Still on the second belt and
original water pump.

11.Knock sensor died at 160K miles. This was annoying and shouldn't have
died. Repair and replacement was approximately 800 dollars, as I recall.

12.The original Dunlop D80 V4 lasted only 20K miles. The car ate a second
pair of Dunlop SP4000. Overinflating the tires by approximately 2psi solved
future problems as did changing to H rated Dunlops. Got 60K per set after
making changes.

13.First set of front brake pads at 120K. Full set and rotors at 260 K
miles. Needed new rear calipers at same time. My fault. I didn't change
brake fluid for the first 7 years.

14.Annoying lights that died in radio/clock so I couldn't see what time it
was or the radio station.

15.Dim headlights that never threw a good pattern. The plastic covers
clouded with age/time exascerbating the problem.

16.Hood pressure struts at approximately 9 years.

17. Car has original struts, engine mounts, exhaust, etc. AC works great.
No leaks in cooling system. Everything else original.

I hate to part with the beast, but it is time for perhaps a new 95? Camry!
Thoughts?



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Old 02 Apr 2004, 08:28 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Re: "From: cutlerd@comcast.net (David)
..............11.Knock sensor died at 160 K miles.This was annoying and
shouldn't have died.Repair and replacement was approx 800 dollars,as I
recall "
---------------------------------------------------------------
I was wondering what the life expectancy of the knox sensor is .How
can you test one?
Anybody else have experience with this part?
Most of the knock I get is cured by fixing the EGR system or de-carbon
of the engine .But I always wonder if this thing is still working after
all these years.

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Old 05 Apr 2004, 06:31 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<UPKdnXDXy-u0L_HdRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
> Today, the odometer on my 92 Camry V-6 LE passed the goal I set for the car,
> 300,000 miles. ...
> I hate to part with the beast, but it is time for perhaps a new 95? Camry!


I noticed this message was posted on April 1, 2004, so perhaps this ia
an April Fool joke? Otherwise please enlighten us on where you expect
to find a "new" 1995 Camry in 2004 ???
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Old 05 Apr 2004, 08:00 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Dee" <d_lau@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:bc999a91.0404051531.12c21eed@posting.google.c om...
> "David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:<UPKdnXDXy-u0L_HdRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
> > Today, the odometer on my 92 Camry V-6 LE passed the goal I set for the

car,
> > 300,000 miles. ...
> > I hate to part with the beast, but it is time for perhaps a new 95?

Camry!
>
> I noticed this message was posted on April 1, 2004, so perhaps this ia
> an April Fool joke? Otherwise please enlighten us on where you expect
> to find a "new" 1995 Camry in 2004 ???


300K? That's just a puppy. It's coming into the backstretch. Why not
keep it and try for 400K. I will on mine.
Don't just say "It's time".


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Old 06 Apr 2004, 09:50 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Were it not for the 1500 dollars of front end damage, I'd keep the car and
push on.

"William W. Plummer" <William.PlummerXNOSPAMX@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:mincc.81434$K91.175052@attbi_s02...
>
> "Dee" <d_lau@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:bc999a91.0404051531.12c21eed@posting.google.c om...
> > "David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:<UPKdnXDXy-u0L_HdRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
> > > Today, the odometer on my 92 Camry V-6 LE passed the goal I set for

the
> car,
> > > 300,000 miles. ...
> > > I hate to part with the beast, but it is time for perhaps a new 95?

> Camry!
> >
> > I noticed this message was posted on April 1, 2004, so perhaps this ia
> > an April Fool joke? Otherwise please enlighten us on where you expect
> > to find a "new" 1995 Camry in 2004 ???

>
> 300K? That's just a puppy. It's coming into the backstretch. Why not
> keep it and try for 400K. I will on mine.
> Don't just say "It's time".
>
>



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Old 06 Apr 2004, 11:50 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Hi,
How noisy is the "Squeaky rear bushings. I just turned up the radio
and drowned out the noise for 300k." so that you had to turn up radio.
Is it much more noisy when you go over a bump since I have a
mysterious noise I am unable to pinpoint. Your response will be
appreciated.

Matt
> >

> "David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:UPKdnXDXy-u0L_HdRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> Today, the odometer on my 92 Camry V-6 LE passed the goal I set for the car,
> 300,000 miles. At this point, the car owes me nothing. I'd try to push a
> bit further, but I was in a car accident a few months ago and repairs to the
> hood and front end would run me 1500 dollars, so I think it is time to move
> on. This is the best car I have ever owned, despite a few minor issues.
> The following is a list of complaints/issues/repairs I have made to the car
> over the years.
>
> 1. Innumerable retractable antennae. Looks great but doesn't last when it
> has to go up and down several times a day. Motor still works though.
>
> 2. Retractable seatbelt. The springs just wear out and don't retract. Not
> worth fixing, but Toyota seems to have problems with things that retracct
> (see number 1)
>
> 3. 2 sets of oxygen sensors.
>
> 4. Squeaky rear bushings. I just turned up the radio and drowned out the
> noise for 300k.
>
> 5. Radio/Cassette deck. Reception was never great and the cassette died
> after approximately 8 years. This made complaint #4 more annoying.
>
> 6. Driver side window regulator/motor. This died at approximately 160k
> miles. I live in NJ and would have to open and close the driver's window 6
> times a day to pay tolls on the Garden State Parkway, so I can't blame
> Toyota.
>
> 7. At 160K miles, the key wore down and got stuck in the ignition. About
> 300 dollars to have ignition lock changed.
>
> 8. Starter motor needed replacement at 200K miles.
>
> 9. Power steering pump seized at 200K.
>
> 10.Changed the timing belt at 120K miles. Still on the second belt and
> original water pump.
>
> 11.Knock sensor died at 160K miles. This was annoying and shouldn't have
> died. Repair and replacement was approximately 800 dollars, as I recall.
>
> 12.The original Dunlop D80 V4 lasted only 20K miles. The car ate a second
> pair of Dunlop SP4000. Overinflating the tires by approximately 2psi solved
> future problems as did changing to H rated Dunlops. Got 60K per set after
> making changes.
>
> 13.First set of front brake pads at 120K. Full set and rotors at 260 K
> miles. Needed new rear calipers at same time. My fault. I didn't change
> brake fluid for the first 7 years.
>
> 14.Annoying lights that died in radio/clock so I couldn't see what time it
> was or the radio station.
>
> 15.Dim headlights that never threw a good pattern. The plastic covers
> clouded with age/time exascerbating the problem.
>
> 16.Hood pressure struts at approximately 9 years.
>
> 17. Car has original struts, engine mounts, exhaust, etc. AC works great.
> No leaks in cooling system. Everything else original.
>
> I hate to part with the beast, but it is time for perhaps a new 95? Camry!
> Thoughts?

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Old 07 Apr 2004, 02:23 am   #9 (permalink)
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:50:06 -0400, "David" <cutlerd@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Were it not for the 1500 dollars of front end damage, I'd keep the car and
>push on.


Just bondo it and push on to 1,000,000 miles ... at least ... then
gift it to your kid.
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Old 07 Apr 2004, 07:50 am   #10 (permalink)
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How much does a nose cost at a junk yard?

"David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Were it not for the 1500 dollars of front end damage, I'd keep the car and
> push on.
>
> "William W. Plummer" <William.PlummerXNOSPAMX@alum.mit.edu> wrote in

message
> news:mincc.81434$K91.175052@attbi_s02...
> >
> > "Dee" <d_lau@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:bc999a91.0404051531.12c21eed@posting.google.c om...
> > > "David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote in message

> > news:<UPKdnXDXy-u0L_HdRVn-sA@comcast.com>...
> > > > Today, the odometer on my 92 Camry V-6 LE passed the goal I set for

> the
> > car,
> > > > 300,000 miles. ...
> > > > I hate to part with the beast, but it is time for perhaps a new 95?

> > Camry!
> > >
> > > I noticed this message was posted on April 1, 2004, so perhaps this ia
> > > an April Fool joke? Otherwise please enlighten us on where you expect
> > > to find a "new" 1995 Camry in 2004 ???

> >
> > 300K? That's just a puppy. It's coming into the backstretch. Why

not
> > keep it and try for 400K. I will on mine.
> > Don't just say "It's time".
> >
> >

>
>



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