Air/Fuel Sensor update

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Old 15 Apr 2004, 07:20 pm   #1 (permalink)
Tim J. Johson
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Posted previously about '03 LE with 9K having a failed Air Fuel mix
sensor.

Covered under warranty but has been a circus. Took about 10 days to
get the first replacement sensor. toyota installed it and everything
went haywire.

They kept car for extra day and they finally decided it was a bad
sensor. Ordered another one....took a week to get it. They installed
it and it all went screwy again. More time on the phone between toyota
dealer and some "mystical toyota experts sitting on pillows in a
far-off land."

They finally decided that my Camry, which was produced in June 03 used
a different sensor than that that is specified in the parts catalog,
even if they pull up that part via VIN number. So, anyone in a similar
situation might want to be aware of this little glitch.
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Old 15 Apr 2004, 07:41 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Tim J. Johson wrote:
> Posted previously about '03 LE with 9K having a failed Air Fuel mix
> sensor.
>
> Covered under warranty but has been a circus. Took about 10 days
> to get the first replacement sensor. toyota installed it and
> everything went haywire.
>
> They kept car for extra day and they finally decided it was a bad
> sensor. Ordered another one....took a week to get it. They
> installed it and it all went screwy again. More time on the phone
> between toyota dealer and some "mystical toyota experts sitting on
> pillows in a far-off land."
>
> They finally decided that my Camry, which was produced in June 03
> used a different sensor than that that is specified in the parts
> catalog, even if they pull up that part via VIN number. So, anyone
> in a similar situation might want to be aware of this little
> glitch.
> Cheers, tim


Hmmm! Thank you for relaying the outcome. Wonder if there is a
distinction between Japanense and US built Camry in this respect?
You know, the old disclaimer "We reserve the right to make
modifications without warning."
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 10:23 am   #3 (permalink)
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"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message > Hmmm! Thank you for relaying the outcome. Wonder if there is a
> distinction between Japanense and US built Camry in this respect?
> You know, the old disclaimer "We reserve the right to make
> modifications without warning."



This is a Japan-built car. I had the same problem with an '84 Tercel
that I bought new. It was one of the last cars produced for that model
year....the dealer told me that when I took delivery. It had a mix of
'84 and '85 parts that caused some confusion at times....
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 11:35 am   #4 (permalink)
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Tim J. Johson wrote:
> "Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message >
> Hmmm! Thank you for relaying the outcome. Wonder if there is a
>> distinction between Japanense and US built Camry in this respect?
>> You know, the old disclaimer "We reserve the right to make
>> modifications without warning."

>
>
> This is a Japan-built car. I had the same problem with an '84
> Tercel
> that I bought new. It was one of the last cars produced for that
> model
> year....the dealer told me that when I took delivery. It had a
> mix of '84 and '85 parts that caused some confusion at times....


Verrrrrrry interesting! By now you may have read about the
operational and structural differences between an Air Fuel Ratio
sensor located ahead of the catalyst vs the O2 sensor located after
the catalyst in very OBD-II smog systems. Toyota and especially some
parts catalogs have been a bit sloppy about interchanging A/F with O2
sensors in their nomenclature, leading to a bit of confusion.
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