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Old 21 Apr 2004, 02:23 pm   #1 (permalink)
Tim J. Johson
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'03 LE. 4-cy.

Going by the "book," (the maintenance book toyota supplies with the
new car), I first needed to replace the cabin air filter at 10,000mi
in the camry (and several other models, also). Then at 15,000mi (but
only in the Camry), then at 20,000mi.

I didn't look further. Asked the local dealership service "adviser"
about it (seems screwy to me), but he just shrugged and told me to
follow the book.

Wouldn't mind so much, but the filter costs $27.95 at Toyota, $25.95
at CarQuest and Napa "doesn't stock it yet."
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Old 21 Apr 2004, 06:16 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Tim J. Johson wrote:
> '03 LE. 4-cy.
>
> Going by the "book," (the maintenance book toyota supplies with the
> new car), I first needed to replace the cabin air filter at
> 10,000mi in the camry (and several other models, also). Then at
> 15,000mi (but only in the Camry), then at 20,000mi.
>
> I didn't look further. Asked the local dealership service "adviser"
> about it (seems screwy to me), but he just shrugged and told me to
> follow the book.
>
> Wouldn't mind so much, but the filter costs $27.95 at Toyota,
> $25.95 at CarQuest and Napa "doesn't stock it yet."


You have misinterpreted the Passport Service Book.
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Old 22 Apr 2004, 08:12 am   #3 (permalink)
JH
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Non OEM filters cost jusy $ 18.95 here in Canada at Canadina Tire they fit
just fine ...
that's something like $14 US
Guess you will have to visit us here in Canada, Eh
"Tim J. Johson" <timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> '03 LE. 4-cy.
>
> Going by the "book," (the maintenance book toyota supplies with the
> new car), I first needed to replace the cabin air filter at 10,000mi
> in the camry (and several other models, also). Then at 15,000mi (but
> only in the Camry), then at 20,000mi.
>
> I didn't look further. Asked the local dealership service "adviser"
> about it (seems screwy to me), but he just shrugged and told me to
> follow the book.
>
> Wouldn't mind so much, but the filter costs $27.95 at Toyota, $25.95
> at CarQuest and Napa "doesn't stock it yet."



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Old 22 Apr 2004, 10:30 am   #4 (permalink)
Tim J. Johson
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"> You have misinterpreted the Passport Service Book.


That's what I have to think, but I have looked at it closely, as have
a couple of friends and if you take it literally, at least as we
interpret it, if you go by the severe schedule you replace at 10 15
and 20, and then for some reason, skip the 25 mark....I didn't look
past that.

If anyone cares, you can plug in the 03 camry into the website below
and see if the three of us are crazy....

http://www.toyotapartsandservice.com/smg/guides.php
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 11:23 pm   #5 (permalink)
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I've gotten along fine for 300K miles in my 92 Camry WITHOUT changing the
non-exisent cabin filter.
"JH" <jhoremans@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Non OEM filters cost jusy $ 18.95 here in Canada at Canadina Tire they fit
> just fine ...
> that's something like $14 US
> Guess you will have to visit us here in Canada, Eh
> "Tim J. Johson" <timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:bce7ee76.0404211123.68fc7266@posting.google.c om...
> > '03 LE. 4-cy.
> >
> > Going by the "book," (the maintenance book toyota supplies with the
> > new car), I first needed to replace the cabin air filter at 10,000mi
> > in the camry (and several other models, also). Then at 15,000mi (but
> > only in the Camry), then at 20,000mi.
> >
> > I didn't look further. Asked the local dealership service "adviser"
> > about it (seems screwy to me), but he just shrugged and told me to
> > follow the book.
> >
> > Wouldn't mind so much, but the filter costs $27.95 at Toyota, $25.95
> > at CarQuest and Napa "doesn't stock it yet."

>
>



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Old 24 Apr 2004, 11:34 am   #6 (permalink)
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Might be a missprint in the 2003 book. My 2004 book requirers it at 30,000
mile intervals, than at 15,000 mile intervals it states "Note: Driving in
heavy traffic, on dirt roads or in urban, dusty or desert areas may shorten
the life of the cabin air filter. Replacement may be needed if you notice
reduced air flow from the air conditioner and heater or if the windows fog
easily when you use the "Fresh" mode. Consult your dealer if any of these
conditions occur."

Gary Carter

"Tim J. Johson" <timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> "> You have misinterpreted the Passport Service Book.
>
>
> That's what I have to think, but I have looked at it closely, as have
> a couple of friends and if you take it literally, at least as we
> interpret it, if you go by the severe schedule you replace at 10 15
> and 20, and then for some reason, skip the 25 mark....I didn't look
> past that.
>
> If anyone cares, you can plug in the 03 camry into the website below
> and see if the three of us are crazy....
>
> http://www.toyotapartsandservice.com/smg/guides.php



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Old 26 Apr 2004, 01:28 pm   #7 (permalink)
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"Gary Carter" <glcarter@netins.net> wrote in message news:<c6e4u9$b2e$1@news.netins.net>...
> Might be a missprint in the 2003 book. My 2004 book requirers it at 30,000
> mile intervals, than at 15,000 mile intervals it states "Note: Driving in
> heavy traffic, on dirt roads or in urban, dusty or desert areas may shorten
> the life of the cabin air filter. SNIP


Interesting about the '04. Much different for what you would assume
would be the same thing....If it weren't for the warranty "thang" I
would put the cabin Air filter on the same 10K sked that I use for the
engine air filter and be done with it.
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Old 26 Apr 2004, 07:02 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Philip sent me an e-mail, not sure if he posted it here on the group,
because I post via Google and it typically only updates once or twice
a day and I'm leaving the country for a week.

Anyhow, Philip thought me worries about warranty problems connected to
not changing the cabin air filter were "lame."

I have to disagree.

I know the odds are slight, but say the fan, cooling system, etc.
fails
while the car is under warranty. Should be fixed free, correct?

Well, what if I had not replaced the cabin air filter as specified by
Toyota?

Would they not be able to claim that the failure was related to me not
changing the filter as specified, thus forcing the system to work
harder and fail prematurely?

I COULD see that happening and I could see me paying several hundred
bills to have the system repaired. Maybe I'm a little paranoid, but
seems sensible.
tim
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Old 26 Apr 2004, 07:52 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Tim J. Johson wrote:
> Philip sent me an e-mail, not sure if he posted it here on the
> group, because I post via Google and it typically only updates
> once or twice a day and I'm leaving the country for a week.
>
> Anyhow, Philip thought my worries about warranty problems
> connected to not changing the cabin air filter were "lame."
>
> I have to disagree.


If you would study the construction of the air plenum chambers and
component locations, you will find nothing that can be damaged by a
clogged or even a missing filter. Did you know that Camry has not had
this filter at all .. until about 2001? You are free to believe
whatever your imagination conceives. I won't waste the energy on
ignorance.

> I know the odds are slight, but say the fan, cooling system, etc.
> fails while the car is under warranty. Should be fixed free,

correct?

I see ... you're chasing shadows.

> Well, what if I had not replaced the cabin air filter as specified
> by Toyota?
>
> Would they not be able to claim that the failure was related to me
> not changing the filter as specified, thus forcing the system to
> work harder and fail prematurely?
>
> I COULD see that happening and I could see me paying several
> hundred bills to have the system repaired. Maybe I'm a little
> paranoid, but seems sensible.
> tim


Tim. You're a GREAT candidate for an extended warranty ... one that
would allay your baseless fears.
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Old 03 May 2004, 02:41 pm   #10 (permalink)
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I changed my cabin filter at 10,000 miles and was surprised at how dirty it
was. Easy to do yourself... Fram has non OEM replacements for about $18...and
often with $5 off rebate.
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