Renewing Front Seat Belts.

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Old 28 Sep 2004, 04:12 pm   #1 (permalink)
Johnny Melvin
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Hi Guys,
I am getting fed up with the lack of rewind on my seat belts in
my 1995 CAMRY.

I just got a quote for renewing the front 2 at my local TOYOTA dealer.
Its 210 that's about $360.
That seems a lot.

I have had lots of cars over the years but never belts that were weak to
rewind
like these have been.
The rear ones are the same and they are very rarely used.

Is this usual on Toyotas.

Johnny UK.


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Old 28 Sep 2004, 04:36 pm   #2 (permalink)
Art
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My 2001 Avalon with only 20k miles on it has the same problem. Another
reason why my 4th Toyota will be my last.


"Johnny Melvin" <johnny@melvin.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys,
> I am getting fed up with the lack of rewind on my seat belts

in
> my 1995 CAMRY.
>
> I just got a quote for renewing the front 2 at my local TOYOTA dealer.
> Its 210 that's about $360.
> That seems a lot.
>
> I have had lots of cars over the years but never belts that were weak to
> rewind
> like these have been.
> The rear ones are the same and they are very rarely used.
>
> Is this usual on Toyotas.
>
> Johnny UK.
>
>



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Old 28 Sep 2004, 07:54 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Johnny Melvin wrote:
|| Hi Guys,
|| I am getting fed up with the lack of rewind on my seat
|| belts in my 1995 CAMRY.
||
|| I just got a quote for renewing the front 2 at my local TOYOTA
|| dealer. Its 210 that's about $360.
|| That seems a lot.
||
|| I have had lots of cars over the years but never belts that were
|| weak to rewind
|| like these have been.
|| The rear ones are the same and they are very rarely used.
||
|| Is this usual on Toyotas.
||
|| Johnny UK.

They replaced my drivers seat belt on my 99 Camry..same problem you are
having. It was good for a few more months...then weakened. They need a
STRONGER mechanism, already!!!!




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Old 29 Sep 2004, 04:21 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"finnedone" <finnedone@fishmarket.com> wrote in message
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> Johnny Melvin wrote:

|| weak to rewind
> || like these have been.
> || The rear ones are the same and they are very rarely used.
> ||
> || Is this usual on Toyotas.
> ||
> || Johnny UK.
>
> They replaced my drivers seat belt on my 99 Camry..same problem you are
> having. It was good for a few more months...then weakened. They need a
> STRONGER mechanism, already!!!!
>
>
>

Well in that case I will not pay to get them replaced.
I though I had just got a faulty set fitted,
But it looks like faulty is standard.
Pity I love my Camry.

Johnny UK.


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Old 29 Sep 2004, 04:37 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Go to this site and it shows you how you can adjust them yourself.
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~jec56/seatbelt/seatbelt.htm
Hope this helps.

Alex

"Johnny Melvin" <johnny@melvin.com> wrote in message
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> "finnedone" <finnedone@fishmarket.com> wrote in message
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>> Johnny Melvin wrote:

> || weak to rewind
>> || like these have been.
>> || The rear ones are the same and they are very rarely used.
>> ||
>> || Is this usual on Toyotas.
>> ||
>> || Johnny UK.
>>
>> They replaced my drivers seat belt on my 99 Camry..same problem you are
>> having. It was good for a few more months...then weakened. They need a
>> STRONGER mechanism, already!!!!
>>
>>
>>

> Well in that case I will not pay to get them replaced.
> I though I had just got a faulty set fitted,
> But it looks like faulty is standard.
> Pity I love my Camry.
>
> Johnny UK.
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>



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Old 30 Sep 2004, 07:35 am   #6 (permalink)
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"Johnny Melvin" <johnny@melvin.com> wrote in message news:<cjf8ro$9s0$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> "finnedone" <finnedone@fishmarket.com> wrote in message
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> > Johnny Melvin wrote:

> || weak to rewind


> But it looks like faulty is standard.
> Pity I love my Camry.



How about just pulling the belt straight out from the top mount, then
allowiing it to retract slowly before you release it, rather than
letting go and expecting it to jump back into place?
Stronger tension return springs would likely elicit complaints that
the belts are uncomfortable to use.
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Old 30 Sep 2004, 08:51 am   #7 (permalink)
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If you owned any brand car in addition to your Toyota, you would understand
that the Toyota spring mechanism quickly looses tension compared to other
makes. It has nothing to do with nursing the belt into the holder.

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> "Johnny Melvin" <johnny@melvin.com> wrote in message

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> > || weak to rewind

>
> > But it looks like faulty is standard.
> > Pity I love my Camry.

>
>
> How about just pulling the belt straight out from the top mount, then
> allowiing it to retract slowly before you release it, rather than
> letting go and expecting it to jump back into place?
> Stronger tension return springs would likely elicit complaints that
> the belts are uncomfortable to use.



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Old 01 Oct 2004, 10:38 am   #8 (permalink)
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"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<sbU6d.5328$ls6.1670@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net>...
> If you owned any brand car in addition to your Toyota, you would understand
> that the Toyota spring mechanism quickly looses tension compared to other
> makes. It has nothing to do with nursing the belt into the holder.
>
> "Daniel M. Dreifus" <nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c5ef7dc0.0409300435.7d1f9966@posting.google.c om...
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> > ***Stronger tension return springs would likely elicit complaints that
> > the belts are uncomfortable to use.***


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From: Marc (getlostspamm108@hotmail.com)
Subject: Seat belt clip on 93 LE? This is the only article in this
thread
View: Original FormatNewsgroups: alt.autos.toyota.camry
Date: 2004-09-29 09:29:37 PST

I've had to move driver's seat due to adding a lumbar support on the
seat
and now the seat belt chafes my neck. It was always somewhat
uncomfortable
in the winter wearing a heavy jacket and will be even more so now.
I've
always had the lever on the door frame in its farthest down position
(up
makes it worse). ***Is their some kind of clip sold to prevent the
belt from
retracting with such normal force.***(emphasis added) The belt still
does it's lockup thing
when I have it held a bit out then yank on it suddenly so it shouldn't
be a
safety issue. I can live with having to push the belt into the car
when I
exit.

Thanks,
Marc
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Old 03 Oct 2004, 07:23 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Daniel M. Dreifus wrote:
|| "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
|| news:<sbU6d.5328$ls6.1670@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net>...
||| If you owned any brand car in addition to your Toyota, you would
||| understand that the Toyota spring mechanism quickly looses tension
||| compared to other makes. It has nothing to do with nursing the
||| belt into the holder.
|||
||| "Daniel M. Dreifus" <nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
||| news:c5ef7dc0.0409300435.7d1f9966@posting.google.c om...
|||
|||| ***Stronger tension return springs would likely elicit complaints
|||| that the belts are uncomfortable to use.***
||
|| ======================================
||
|| From: Marc (getlostspamm108@hotmail.com)
|| Subject: Seat belt clip on 93 LE? This is the only article in this
|| thread
|| View: Original FormatNewsgroups: alt.autos.toyota.camry
|| Date: 2004-09-29 09:29:37 PST
||
|| I've had to move driver's seat due to adding a lumbar support on the
|| seat
|| and now the seat belt chafes my neck. It was always somewhat
|| uncomfortable
|| in the winter wearing a heavy jacket and will be even more so now.
|| I've
|| always had the lever on the door frame in its farthest down position
|| (up
|| makes it worse). ***Is their some kind of clip sold to prevent the
|| belt from
|| retracting with such normal force.***(emphasis added) The belt still
|| does it's lockup thing
|| when I have it held a bit out then yank on it suddenly so it
|| shouldn't
|| be a
|| safety issue. I can live with having to push the belt into the car
|| when I
|| exit.
||
|| Thanks,
|| Marc

The problem for almost EVERYONE else is poor, weak retraction of the seat
belt(s). You will soon get your wish as your seat belt retraction will
quickly become weak, very weak.



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Old 04 Oct 2004, 07:42 am   #10 (permalink)
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"dorsal" <dorsal@fin.com> wrote in message news:<%J08d.16832$223.10242@edtnps89>...

> You will soon get your wish as your seat belt retraction will
> quickly become weak, very weak.


As long as the belt can be retracted properly, I'm OK with it.
Mine is ten years old, so presumably, the retraction springs are
stabilized.
Never really noticed a problem.
My Dad was in the passenger seat Saturday, and left the belt dangling,
so I guess that's what you mean.
He has a Buick, so presumably, in other cars the belt snaps back when
you let go.
Like I said, never noticed a problem with present function.
Not high on my list of concerns.
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