Starter repair

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05 Oct 2004, 07:29 pm   #1 (permalink)
Chuck Kampmiller
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Starter repair

I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts. This
may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in the
correct direction.

--

Chuck Kampmiller
Aloha, OR



  Reply With Quote
Old 05 Oct 2004, 07:56 pm   #2 (permalink)
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Re: Starter repair

In article <p%G8d.193346$D%.111523@attbi_s51>,
"Chuck Kampmiller" <chuckka1@comcast.net> wrote:

> I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
> repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
> is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts. This
> may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in the
> correct direction.


My Trooper II had the same problem. I could have replaced the contacts
but choose to replace the whole starter as it had to come out anyway, (I
did it myself) and I did not want to repeat the job especially in the
winter. The rebuilt starter was not that bad in price. Check with a
major parts house in your area, I'm sure you will find the contacts at a
reasonable price. Good luck
--

  Reply With Quote
Old 06 Oct 2004, 07:59 am   #3 (permalink)
Alex Marcuzzi
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Re: Starter repair

Here is the article. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Starter.shtml.
I changed the contacts on my starter two years ago and still working fine.
Alex.
"Chuck Kampmiller" <chuckka1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news%G8d.193346$D%.111523@attbi_s51...
>I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
> repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
> is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts.
> This
> may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in the
> correct direction.
>
> --
>
> Chuck Kampmiller
> Aloha, OR
>
>
>



  Reply With Quote
Old 06 Oct 2004, 10:19 am   #4 (permalink)
Jason James
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Re: Starter repair


"Chuck Kampmiller" <chuckka1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news%G8d.193346$D%.111523@attbi_s51...
> I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
> repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
> is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts.

This
> may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in the
> correct direction.
>
> --
>
> Chuck Kampmiller
> Aloha, OR


Her is a trap I found when re-assembling the starter after a contact change.

Basically the two threaded studs need a groove cut across their ends so they
canbe held from twisting while their rspective nuts are tightened.



Search Result 1
From: Jason James (vellicet@bigpond.com)
Subject: Starter:trap when installing new sol-contacts or tightening battery
cable.
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: alt.autos.toyota.camry
Date: 2004-08-18 22:15:08 PST


A greater starter would be hard to imagine (they are used to spin V8s when
geared down), but the solenoid starter current contacts install had one
easily missed trap.

They need to be dead-flat so all their available contact area is used. If
they are not-so,..then early problems arise.

The problem occurs when the nut on each post ( one for the actual starter-
motor,..the other for battery input) is tightened after all the new guts are
installed or at any time the starter battery-cable is removed and replaced :

The stud will turn slightly as the nut is tightened. This causes
the contact inside to 'cock' up at one end,..and down the other, making a
clean and total contact by the solenoid bridging contact impossible as each
contact will be tilted in reverse to each other,,,, the spring loaded
contact-ring will not accomodate this mis-alignment. This rapidly leads to
premature contact wear.

The trick (which the Gregories doesn't mention) is too hold the pinion out
to the length of its engagement travel (a pair of vice -grips acting as a
wedge of sorts,clamped with medium pressure on the pinion-boss) so the
solenoid armature/plunger can be held down to cause the contacts to
self-align. Then while this is all-happening, tighten the two contact studs.
Remove the plunger return-spring while doing this last bit. The plunger just
pulls out.

Applies to Toyotas and no doubt some other Jap cars with Nippon-Denso
starter-motors.

One remedy when removing/replacing the starter during any job on the car:
Its very important when undoing and tightening the nut on the
battery-lug-post, to mark it first to make sure it ends up in the right
position again. A screwdriver slot filed in the post-end would fix this
problem.



  Reply With Quote
Old 07 Oct 2004, 11:02 am   #5 (permalink)
Tegger®
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Re: Starter repair

"Chuck Kampmiller" <chuckka1@comcast.net> sprach im
news%G8d.193346$D%.111523@attbi_s51:

> I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
> repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
> is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts.
> This may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in
> the correct direction.
>



Dealer calls it a starter solenoid "stud kit".


--
TeGGeR®

  Reply With Quote
Old 07 Oct 2004, 12:01 pm   #6 (permalink)
Roger Brown
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Re: Starter repair

Chuck Kampmiller wrote:
>
> I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
> repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
> is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts. This
> may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in the
> correct direction.


Yes, easy and inexpensive to replace the starter solenoid contacts if
that is inded the problem:
http://www.4Crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...OnlineOrdering


--
Roger
  Reply With Quote
Old 08 Oct 2004, 06:51 pm   #7 (permalink)
Conase
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Re: Starter repair

>"Chuck Kampmiller" <chuckka1@comcast.net> sprach im
>news%G8d.193346$D%.111523@attbi_s51:
>
>> I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
>> repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
>> is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts.
>> This may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in
>> the correct direction.
>>

>
>
>Dealer calls it a starter solenoid "stud kit".
>
>
>--
>TeGGeR®


Try here >>>>>>>>

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Starter.shtml
  Reply With Quote
Old 13 Oct 2004, 03:50 am   #8 (permalink)
Viperkiller
Guest
  • Posts: n/a
  • User Status:


Default Re: Starter repair

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 00:29:09 GMT, "Chuck Kampmiller"
<chuckka1@comcast.net> wrote:

>I remember sometime in the past that a kit was talked about here that
>repaired the contacts in the starter relay. My daughter's 1990 Camry
>is acting up again. I got by before by using a file on the contacts. This
>may be the time to replace the parts if someone can point me in the
>correct direction.


I just go to a small engine shop and give them the starter and the
new contacts. Check her battery too. I found that weak,
insufficient, or cheap, small batteries make it worse. Insufficient
power getting to the starter seems to accelerate the wear on the
contacts, which may be due to the longer time it takes to crank the
car.
  Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:14 am.

Attribution:
Autoblog
Powered by Yahoo Answers



ToyotaLexusForum.com is an unofficial community for car enthusiasts. ToyotaLexusForum.com is not affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation in any way.
Toyota Motor Corporation does not sponsor, support, or endorse ToyotaLexusForum.com in any way.
Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.