2005 Camry pricing

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Old 11 Nov 2004, 08:18 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2005 Camry pricing

First step I aill do some research on Internet.

Usually I get MSRP and Invoice price. I know MSRP is too high. How is
Invoice price related to final out-the-door price.

My friends told me you can get Invoice price cover everything including tax,
destination fee, lisence fee, etc. The deal is good.

The dealer is tricky and you have to have your bottom line. Any tips on
buying new car?

BTW, I am in Los Angeles Area.

-fj


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Old 12 Nov 2004, 12:07 pm   #2 (permalink)
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I doubt you can get out of the door price the same as invoice price. It is
possible to get a price which is $1000 below invoice but still when you add
fees and taxes it will be more than that. You can get quotes from carsdirect
and autobytel and then try to negotiate with your dealer. I'm from LA area
too. When I showed my prices to my local dealer he was just laughing and
told me it's unreal. Finally I bought a car via autobytel and out of the
door price was $900 over invoice.

"fj" <frank_z_j@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
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> First step I aill do some research on Internet.
>
> Usually I get MSRP and Invoice price. I know MSRP is too high. How is
> Invoice price related to final out-the-door price.
>
> My friends told me you can get Invoice price cover everything including
> tax,
> destination fee, lisence fee, etc. The deal is good.
>
> The dealer is tricky and you have to have your bottom line. Any tips on
> buying new car?
>
> BTW, I am in Los Angeles Area.
>
> -fj
>
>



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Old 12 Nov 2004, 11:34 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Go to library and find an APRIL issue of Consumer Reports. They always have
an article about negotiating the purchase of a car. Make sure everything
is in writing. Cross off all the boilerplate in the back of the contract by
writing on the front "All terms on the back of this agreeement are void."
After you have a handwritten deal, they will use a computer to type up a
nice one. Make sure they match and add the "All terms....... void"
sentence. You don't have to read the terms you are voiding. I guarantee
you that those terms are not on your side. There are tons more of
suggestions but that is all the time i have.


"fj" <frank_z_j@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
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> First step I aill do some research on Internet.
>
> Usually I get MSRP and Invoice price. I know MSRP is too high. How is
> Invoice price related to final out-the-door price.
>
> My friends told me you can get Invoice price cover everything including
> tax,
> destination fee, lisence fee, etc. The deal is good.
>
> The dealer is tricky and you have to have your bottom line. Any tips on
> buying new car?
>
> BTW, I am in Los Angeles Area.
>
> -fj
>
>



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Old 13 Nov 2004, 06:23 am   #4 (permalink)
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Here in South Florida we have dealers that advertise low balls for the 2005
Camry LE for $13,900, so if you can live without an automatic transmission
you can get one for that price. You sit and wait till they give you the
advertised price, waited for 4 hours and talked 2 people out of 6 cylinder
models. I did this on a 2004 last year and got it for $14,730 plus taxes.
They weren't happy about that, the list sticker price was $19,605.

Ben

"fj" <frank_z_j@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
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> First step I aill do some research on Internet.
>
> Usually I get MSRP and Invoice price. I know MSRP is too high. How is
> Invoice price related to final out-the-door price.
>
> My friends told me you can get Invoice price cover everything including
> tax,
> destination fee, lisence fee, etc. The deal is good.
>
> The dealer is tricky and you have to have your bottom line. Any tips on
> buying new car?
>
> BTW, I am in Los Angeles Area.
>
> -fj
>
>



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Old 13 Nov 2004, 02:10 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"ben" <ben14@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Here in South Florida we have dealers that advertise low balls for the

2005
> Camry LE for $13,900, so if you can live without an automatic transmission
> you can get one for that price. You sit and wait till they give you the
> advertised price, waited for 4 hours and talked 2 people out of 6 cylinder
> models. I did this on a 2004 last year and got it for $14,730 plus taxes.
> They weren't happy about that, the list sticker price was $19,605.
>
> Ben


Usually a low advertised price comes associated with a specific vin. That
particular VIN is never available is just to make you come to the
dealership.


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Old 14 Nov 2004, 03:04 am   #6 (permalink)
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:18:25 -0800, "fj" <frank_z_j@nothotmail.com>
wrote:

>First step I aill do some research on Internet.
>
>Usually I get MSRP and Invoice price. I know MSRP is too high. How is
>Invoice price related to final out-the-door price.
>
>My friends told me you can get Invoice price cover everything including tax,
>destination fee, lisence fee, etc. The deal is good.
>
>The dealer is tricky and you have to have your bottom line. Any tips on
>buying new car?
>
>BTW, I am in Los Angeles Area.
>
>-fj
>

Your right. You first have to do some research. You have to find out
the invoice price and any incentives. This can be done with the
internet or publications that publish those figures.

Once you've got a close approximation of their cost, add $500-$900 for
their profit. They have light bills to pay, benefits to provide,
mortgage to pay, etc. When you go to the dealer, explain to them that
you're serious and you'll buy the car at that price. This is very
important as they need to know that you're really going to buy the
car. If they try to negotiate with you, kindly mention that you don't
want to negotiate and just want a "Yes" or "No" answer and that there
won't be any hard feeling if they say "No." Just in case, have a
maximum amount ready that you're willing to pay. Don't fall for the
"monthly payment" talk. Figure the maximum monthly payment you're
willing to pay before getting to the dealer.

The best time of buy a car is Nov. through Jan. --- especially towards
the end of December. This period is typicall when the sales
departments lose money because no one is buying cars. Everyone is
spending their money for Christmas. They're hungry for any business
they can get. Just remember they have to make some money, even if
just a little bit.

I'm in Florida. If you were here, I'd recommend you to the salesman I
deal with.
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Old 14 Nov 2004, 12:03 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Did you try Longo Toyota? I went to their lot yesterday, they are damn huge.
Hundreds of new Camry sitting there. The sticker price, MSRP is $20,490. The
sales man said they are supposed to sell 20K Camry this year. There are 2K
to go till the end of December. You can see there is a gap and they are fall
behind. I believe there will be more aggressive promotion towards the end of
the year.

When I said I will buy one in December, the sales man seemed not interested
any more. It was Saturday and they are so busy.

I'll keep you posted how things are going.

-fj



"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
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> I doubt you can get out of the door price the same as invoice price. It is
> possible to get a price which is $1000 below invoice but still when you

add
> fees and taxes it will be more than that. You can get quotes from

carsdirect
> and autobytel and then try to negotiate with your dealer. I'm from LA area
> too. When I showed my prices to my local dealer he was just laughing and
> told me it's unreal. Finally I bought a car via autobytel and out of the
> door price was $900 over invoice.
>
> "fj" <frank_z_j@nothotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cn16hh$33i$1@gist.usc.edu...
> > First step I aill do some research on Internet.
> >
> > Usually I get MSRP and Invoice price. I know MSRP is too high. How is
> > Invoice price related to final out-the-door price.
> >
> > My friends told me you can get Invoice price cover everything including
> > tax,
> > destination fee, lisence fee, etc. The deal is good.
> >
> > The dealer is tricky and you have to have your bottom line. Any tips on
> > buying new car?
> >
> > BTW, I am in Los Angeles Area.
> >
> > -fj
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 14 Nov 2004, 10:00 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"fj" <frank_z_j@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Did you try Longo Toyota? I went to their lot yesterday, they are damn
> huge.
> Hundreds of new Camry sitting there. The sticker price, MSRP is $20,490.
> The
> sales man said they are supposed to sell 20K Camry this year. There are 2K
> to go till the end of December. You can see there is a gap and they are
> fall
> behind. I believe there will be more aggressive promotion towards the end
> of
> the year.
>
> When I said I will buy one in December, the sales man seemed not
> interested
> any more. It was Saturday and they are so busy.
>
> I'll keep you posted how things are going.
>



No, it's a bit too far for me. I bought my car from Toyota of Oxnard as
autobytel directed me there.
What salesman told you it's just a b***it. They always have the best deal
and somehow it happens just for you at this very moment when you visit them.
If you can wait till the end of December you can really get a good deal.
Usually you get the best prices after Christmas.
One more good place to look at is Keys Toyota in Van Nuys.


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Old 15 Nov 2004, 07:18 pm   #9 (permalink)
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In article <DRVld.41874$QJ3.21100@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> , Hans
<hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote:

>
>
> No, it's a bit too far for me. I bought my car from Toyota of Oxnard as
> autobytel directed me there.
> What salesman told you it's just a b***it. They always have the best deal
> and somehow it happens just for you at this very moment when you visit them.
> If you can wait till the end of December you can really get a good deal.
> Usually you get the best prices after Christmas.
> One more good place to look at is Keys Toyota in Van Nuys.
>

Highly recommend Toyota of Oxnard as well. I'm from Seattle but while
visiting my cousin in LA bought my no-thrills Camry 05 LE on September
3 for 18.200 OTD after rebate.
Limited color selection but I wanted grey anyway. Good service. You
should talk to internet/ fleet sales manager(s). Bobby Sanchez was
great to deal with.

Alex
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Old 15 Nov 2004, 10:07 pm   #10 (permalink)
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> Highly recommend Toyota of Oxnard as well. I'm from Seattle but while
> visiting my cousin in LA bought my no-thrills Camry 05 LE on September
> 3 for 18.200 OTD after rebate.
> Limited color selection but I wanted grey anyway. Good service. You
> should talk to internet/ fleet sales manager(s). Bobby Sanchez was
> great to deal with.
>


I have to agree with you. This is the guy who sold a Highlander for me.
Everything was painless, no tricks or hidden fees.


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