Camry oil change: what a mess

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Old 20 Nov 2004, 05:50 pm   #1 (permalink)
Jack
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Default Camry oil change: what a mess

Hi.

After several years of letting the dealer look after the oil changes in our
'95 Camry V-6 and being dinged exhorbitant rates for it ..and the
inevitable upselling that went along with it, I decided to do the chore
myself. It was pretty simple ..and really messy. The main problem was
changing out the filter.

So I would like your input based on your experience with these cars, please.

Firstly, what type of filter wrench works best for you as the typical
band-type is very difficult to use in such a tight spot (just under the
exhaust manifold)?

And then there's the problem of spilling the filter oil down onto the
engine/chassis components after it's unscrewed? Because of the restricted
location, it is nearly impossible to tilt it up thus keeping the oil
contained within the filter while removing it from the car.

Thanks.
Jack


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Old 20 Nov 2004, 06:24 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Yes the position of the filter is an issue, seems like a drain valve or
button or something would be helpful. Anyway, I'm an amateur and I use an
adjustable gear-type clamp thing that fits on the end of a socket
extension. As you turn the ratchet left/loose the clamps grab the filter -
Sears has them. This type works on a variety of sizes/shapes - and not
just oil filters either. A cap-type (that fits) would work well too. I
just pack rags around the oil cooler and filter and let it all run out.
Sometimes it makes $19.99 look like a bargain. Accepting oil changes is
your first step in becoming "one" with your camry, grasshopper.

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Old 20 Nov 2004, 10:20 pm   #3 (permalink)
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I like to poke a hole in the oil filter with an ice pick to drain it before
I remove it.


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Old 21 Nov 2004, 08:13 am   #4 (permalink)
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"Jack" <jacksimpson@telus.net> wrote in message news:<OKQnd.196306$9b.46388@edtnps84>...
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really messy. The main problem was
> changing out the filter.


If you can let the oil drain overnight, you'll probably find the
filter comes off without spilling a drop, and the fresh oil will stay
cleaner longer.
If you can't let it drain overnight, try letting it drain for a
minimum of 30 minutes, then remove the filter.
BTW, the dealer sells a filter wrench that works with a ratchet handle
and extension - fits over the end cap and matches the indentations -
also makes it easier to tighten correctly. Don't know about the six,
but on the four cylinder, manual says tighten 3/4 turn, so a white
line marked on the filter wrench allows one to turn just the right
amount.
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Most probably don't practice the fastidiousness I use to change engine
oil, but thought I'd mention the extra services I do when changing
oil. If you're doing that, you might want to consider additional work
at the same time.
Check the battery fluid level - add distilled water if necessary. Also
check state of charge with temperature compensated hydrometer, and re
charge if needed.
Check air filter element. Blow out with compressed air / replace if
needed.
Use battery filling bulb to replace power steering fluid in the
reservoir.
Bleed brake fluid regularly, so instead of being dark, it stays amber
color.
Try:
http://www.motiveproducts.com/ for power brake bleeding - one person
professional results.
Drain automatic transmission fluid regularly. Check final level with
trans. hot after driving min. 10 miles. If you haven't done this
before, you'll need a 10mm Allen head socket and new drain plug
gasket. BTW, always replace the gasket on the engine oil drain plug
with new also.
Rotate tires and adjust pressure if needed. Check remaining brake
lining thickness through inspection slot when wheels are removed.
Check axle boots for incipient cracking, same for flexible brake
lines. Use a small mirror to check back side of flexible brake lines.
Check for oil leaks and identify source for correction.
Check coolant level and condition. Drain radiator and replace as
needed, using only Toyota red mixed with distilled water.
Check belt tension, adjust as needed.
Generally inspect engine bay, make sure everything is as should be.
Most maintenance consists of checking and replacing fluids. Do that,
and your Toyota should last a long, long, time.
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Old 21 Nov 2004, 09:34 am   #5 (permalink)
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"Pat" <dancing@onlinemac.removecom> wrote in message news:<10q05s1amc0bfe2@corp.supernews.com>...
> I like to poke a hole in the oil filter with an ice pick to drain it before
> I remove it.


Poking a hole is a good idea but here is an important suggestion...

loosen the filter a bit to be sure you will be able to remove the
filter BEFORE you poke the hole.

If you poke the hole first, then find that the filter is so tight that
you can't remove it, you won't be able to drive it to a garage for
help.


Mark
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Old 21 Nov 2004, 02:48 pm   #6 (permalink)
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>After several years of letting the dealer look after the oil changes in our
>'95 Camry V-6 and being dinged exhorbitant rates for it ..and the
>inevitable upselling that went along with it, I decided to do the chore
>myself. It was pretty simple ..and really messy. The main problem was
>changing out the filter.


Try changing your transmission fluid - you'll be amazed at how little
comes out and how much of the old is left in.


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Old 21 Nov 2004, 07:48 pm   #7 (permalink)
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I know what ya mean.. the measured amount taken out of the engine was a tad
less than the amount I replaced; it didn't quite refill the old oil jug
...even taking into consideration that left in the filter.
Anyway, it was fun driving around today with all the windows open and the
heater on, as the engine block was burning off the spilled oil. lol
Jack


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>>After several years of letting the dealer look after the oil changes in
>>our
>>'95 Camry V-6 and being dinged exhorbitant rates for it ..and the
>>inevitable upselling that went along with it, I decided to do the chore
>>myself. It was pretty simple ..and really messy. The main problem was
>>changing out the filter.

>
> Try changing your transmission fluid - you'll be amazed at how little
> comes out and how much of the old is left in.
>
>



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Old 21 Nov 2004, 08:37 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:50:06 +0000, Jack wrote:

> Hi.
>
> After several years of letting the dealer look after the oil changes in our
> '95 Camry V-6 and being dinged exhorbitant rates for it ..and the
> inevitable upselling that went along with it, I decided to do the chore
> myself. It was pretty simple ..and really messy. The main problem was
> changing out the filter.
>
> So I would like your input based on your experience with these cars, please.
>
> Firstly, what type of filter wrench works best for you as the typical
> band-type is very difficult to use in such a tight spot (just under the
> exhaust manifold)?


I have an '85 Corolla with the filter in the same spot. I use an old
leather belt...

>
> And then there's the problem of spilling the filter oil down onto the
> engine/chassis components after it's unscrewed? Because of the restricted
> location, it is nearly impossible to tilt it up thus keeping the oil
> contained within the filter while removing it from the car.
>


Yeah. Good luck. On that same Corolla, I have a very well oiled subframe
right under the filter. Just place the pan where it will catch most of it,
and have the kitty litter nearby...

> Thanks.
> Jack


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Old 21 Nov 2004, 08:52 pm   #9 (permalink)
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I use a cap type purchased from Toyota that fits the end of the filters and
goes on a socket driver. I just put a container made for changing oil that
is placed on its side for catching oil that I purchased from Pepboys.

"Jack" <jacksimpson@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi.
>
> After several years of letting the dealer look after the oil changes in

our
> '95 Camry V-6 and being dinged exhorbitant rates for it ..and the
> inevitable upselling that went along with it, I decided to do the chore
> myself. It was pretty simple ..and really messy. The main problem was
> changing out the filter.
>
> So I would like your input based on your experience with these cars,

please.
>
> Firstly, what type of filter wrench works best for you as the typical
> band-type is very difficult to use in such a tight spot (just under the
> exhaust manifold)?
>
> And then there's the problem of spilling the filter oil down onto the
> engine/chassis components after it's unscrewed? Because of the restricted
> location, it is nearly impossible to tilt it up thus keeping the oil
> contained within the filter while removing it from the car.
>
> Thanks.
> Jack
>
>



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Old 22 Nov 2004, 07:53 am   #10 (permalink)
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kiselink@mindspring.com wrote in message news:<elv1q0tr7b17dpbp3j2ig74h3vp78eslgb@4ax.com>. ..
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> Try changing your transmission fluid - you'll be amazed at how little
> comes out and how much of the old is left in.


On mine, supposed to be 2.5 qts. drains out - and that's about right.
Last time refilling after draining hot over night, kept adding and
adding - so measured the drained transmission fluid - 3 qts., 12 ozs.
- point being, if you drain over night, more comes out.
Total dry fill capacity on the 4 cyl. A140E is 5.9 qts., so that's
removing more than half. (57%)
Not sure this is typical. Just returned from 200 miles driving,
immediately drained around 3 P.M. and left until around 9 A.M. the
following moring.
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