Gas charged shocks on '97 4 cyl

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Old 01 Dec 2004, 11:32 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Other day I bough gas charged KYB shocks as parts of replace front
suspension
I brought then to mechanic and he highly advised not to install them. He
motives this as gas operated shocks are too hard for rest parts of
suspension and I will lose more money on long run on changing mounts and
etc. He says will be much wiser to stick with original from Toyota.

I used to trust this guy and he always could find the right reason of
problem with my car and fixed them perfectly. But in this case ... I am not
so sure. As I know KYB makes shocks for Toyota and they would not recommend
this model (I got GR-2) for Camry 97 if something would be wrong ...
In result I get a little at lost and would like to ask you to share you
opinion or expirince using gas charged shocks .


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Old 02 Dec 2004, 08:31 am   #2 (permalink)
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If they are rated a sportier -harder ride , maybe yes. Monroe gas are
not rated sportier, I have them. But it depends how much harder they
are.

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Old 02 Dec 2004, 10:31 am   #3 (permalink)
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"VS" <nospam@please.thanks> wrote in message
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> Dear Community
>
> Other day I bough gas charged KYB shocks as parts of replace front
> suspension
> I brought then to mechanic and he highly advised not to install them. He
> motives this as gas operated shocks are too hard for rest parts of
> suspension and I will lose more money on long run on changing mounts and
> etc. He says will be much wiser to stick with original from Toyota.
>
> I used to trust this guy and he always could find the right reason of
> problem with my car and fixed them perfectly. But in this case ... I am

not
> so sure. As I know KYB makes shocks for Toyota and they would not

recommend
> this model (I got GR-2) for Camry 97 if something would be wrong ...
> In result I get a little at lost and would like to ask you to share you
> opinion or expirince using gas charged shocks .
>
>



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Old 02 Dec 2004, 10:39 am   #4 (permalink)
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"VS" <nospam@please.thanks> wrote in message
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> Dear Community
>
> Other day I bough gas charged KYB shocks as parts of replace front
> suspension
> I brought then to mechanic and he highly advised not to install them. He
> motives this as gas operated shocks are too hard for rest parts of
> suspension and I will lose more money on long run on changing mounts and
> etc. He says will be much wiser to stick with original from Toyota.
>
> I used to trust this guy and he always could find the right reason of
> problem with my car and fixed them perfectly. But in this case ... I am

not
> so sure. As I know KYB makes shocks for Toyota and they would not

recommend
> this model (I got GR-2) for Camry 97 if something would be wrong ...
> In result I get a little at lost and would like to ask you to share you
> opinion or expirince using gas charged shocks .



One of the considerations that has to be taken into account when ordering
shocks for your car is,..how soft are the springs ?,..or put another way,
are the springs matched to the shocks in terms of stiffness?

If your car has soft springs expected on a family sedan, then fitting harder
shock than normal; (regardless of which brand)will cause the shock to carry
*most* of the suspension movement, rather than just damping any
oscillations. In extreme cases, the shock may fail.

I suspect your mechy is really saying "these shocks are too far mismatched
to the cars spring-rate and suspension travel.

Jason


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Old 02 Dec 2004, 12:54 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 05:32:38 GMT, "VS" <nospam@please.thanks> wrote:

>Dear Community
>
>Other day I bough gas charged KYB shocks as parts of replace front
>suspension
>I brought then to mechanic and he highly advised not to install them. He
>motives this as gas operated shocks are too hard for rest parts of
>suspension and I will lose more money on long run on changing mounts and
>etc. He says will be much wiser to stick with original from Toyota.
>
> I used to trust this guy and he always could find the right reason of
>problem with my car and fixed them perfectly. But in this case ... I am not
>so sure. As I know KYB makes shocks for Toyota and they would not recommend
>this model (I got GR-2) for Camry 97 if something would be wrong ...
>In result I get a little at lost and would like to ask you to share you
>opinion or expirince using gas charged shocks .
>

Your mechanic has a point. He has nothing to gain from installing one
brand over the other. He sounded like he only had your best interest
in mind. KYB's do make shocks for Toyotas but with different
specifications. KYB can make shocks hard or as soft too. It is
possible that the ones you bought are too stiff. Older Toyota's do
wear out their mounts and putting stiffer shocks will exacerbate the
situation. If he knows thiis, he seems like a good mechanic. He
probably recommended the Toyota shocks because he knows that it is
perfectly calibrated for the car.

Shock calibration is a complex science and the engineers took a lot of
time to dial it in when designing the car. Aftermarket manufacturers
have to make shocks for a whole variety of cars so it is far more
generic and not specifically for one car, other than fitment. Who
says that would work better?

Next time you are doubting a mechanic that has served you for a long
time, ask this question: what does he/she have to gain with this?
Are they just trying to get more money?
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Old 02 Dec 2004, 04:12 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Stick with the Toyota parts, you will not
get a better ride with those things you
have and possibly make the ride much
worse...I had new toyota shocks put
on mine at 140,000 miles and wow
what a difference, I am now pushing
190,000 miles.
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