97 Camry Squeaking Steering Wheel

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Old 04 Dec 2004, 03:45 pm   #1 (permalink)
Jeanne
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Hello!
I would very much appreciate any advice. Just took my car in for big
service for 60,000 miles and mentioned that there was a little squeak when I
turned the steering wheel sometimes.

They told me that my car has a "power steering leak at pump and high
pressure hose" and quoted me $1,000 to fix it. I was shocked. I declined
the repair and feel I should seek a second opinion. I have "babied" this
car and taken meticulous care of it. I suspect they want me to buy a new
one, so I don't really trust them.

Do you feel this is a fair price to correct the problem, and more
importantly, do you think it is unsafe for me to drive the car?
Thank you,
Jeanne


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Old 04 Dec 2004, 04:32 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Where is the squeak if it is near the floor it could be just needing
lube on the cupling. You should change the oil in the resivour, it
takes transmission oil, A turkey baster will remove the oil easily .
1000 to fix a sqeak , wait till it doesnt work and get bids, it is to
high

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Old 04 Dec 2004, 04:56 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Squeak could be caused by low power steering fluid in system.
I would suspect high pressure hose is leaking and causing loss of fluid
and not power steering pump.
Have that hose replaced first, then check for other leaks.
You need to check all fluid levels and check for any sign of leaks.
Have them flush/change out the power steering fluid, was that ever done?
How about the trans fluid, brake fluid, coolant, etc.
They should be changed and check for proper levels.
Sure sound premature for high press hose to start leaking.
Just replaced the high press hose on '90 camry, due to leak.
Cost $40 for part.
If you can replace it yourself, I would expect approx. $40-90 for the
hose, if you can buy from non toyota dealer, like autozone, kragen, etc.
I would expect labor charges of approx 1.5 to 2 hrs. to replace the hose,
depend on your car, plus cost of fluids.
If power steering pump or Rack & Pinon is bad, that will add many $$$$$ to
job.
Refill power steering fluid and see if you can detect the source of the
leak and get another opinion.


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Old 04 Dec 2004, 06:32 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"m Ransley" <ransley@webtv.net> wrote
> Where is the squeak if it is near the floor it could be just needing
> lube on the cupling.


Unfortunately, the squeak sounds like it is coming from the steering wheel
base. Thanks.



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Old 04 Dec 2004, 06:47 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"jjjsan" <jjjsan_spam@nospamz.sbcglobal.net> wrote
> Squeak could be caused by low power steering fluid in system.


The distributor said the power steering fluid was low and was causing the
squeak. Said fluid was low because of leak at pump and high pressure hose.

> I would suspect high pressure hose is leaking and causing loss of fluid
> and not power steering pump.


I'm hoping you are right on this.

..> Have them flush/change out the power steering fluid, was that ever done?
> How about the trans fluid, brake fluid, coolant, etc.
> They should be changed and check for proper levels.


I've followed all recommended services, but I don't off hand remember if
they ever flushed/changed out the power steering fluid. I'll check my
records.

> Sure sound premature for high press hose to start leaking.
> Just replaced the high press hose on '90 camry, due to leak.
> Cost $40 for part.
> If you can replace it yourself, I would expect approx. $40-90 for the
> hose, if you can buy from non toyota dealer, like autozone, kragen, etc.
> I would expect labor charges of approx 1.5 to 2 hrs. to replace the hose,
> depend on your car, plus cost of fluids.


I don't know how to do it myself, but will take it to a car repair shop I
trust next week. I should have taken it there in the first place.
Many thanks for your help.
Jeanne



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Old 04 Dec 2004, 07:50 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 21:45:55 +0000, Jeanne wrote:

> Hello!
> I would very much appreciate any advice. Just took my car in for big
> service for 60,000 miles and mentioned that there was a little squeak when I
> turned the steering wheel sometimes.
>
> They told me that my car has a "power steering leak at pump and high
> pressure hose" and quoted me $1,000 to fix it. I was shocked. I declined
> the repair and feel I should seek a second opinion. I have "babied" this
> car and taken meticulous care of it. I suspect they want me to buy a new
> one, so I don't really trust them.
>
> Do you feel this is a fair price to correct the problem, and more
> importantly, do you think it is unsafe for me to drive the car?
> Thank you,
> Jeanne


The power steering pump will make a mechanical whining or moaning sound,
esp when the car is stopped and you turn the wheel. When you start the car
in the AM, open the door, turn the wheel and listen. If the resivior is
full it won't do it, only when the fluid runs down to or below the minimum
mark.

You can get a used Power steering pump in a junkyard for $25-30
The high pressure hose can be had at AutoZone or CarQuest for about $70.

Bat your eyes at someone who can turn a wrench! (Sorry, got carried away...)
If you can find a decent shade tree mechanic, it'll cost $25-90 to install
both items. They are really easy. Hopefully, you have not damaged the rack
and pinion. This is more difficult, and the rebuilt rack assy will cost
$145-225 at above stores, plus about 2.5 hours to install.

Now, that's if the sound is a groan. If it is a squeak and is coming from
the steering whell itself, then Toyotas are notorious for this. I drove an
'80 like this for 2 years because I was too lazy to remove the wheel and
grease it. Oh, and a '78, too. Oh, and a '72, too. Oh, and a...well, you
get it. Course, back then there weren't air bags adding to the procedure...

Oh, and BTW, I replaced the rack & pinion in an '85 Celica, but not the HP
hose, and have been adding PS fluid every two weeks for, oh, 30,000 miles
now...
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 07:57 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 00:32:43 +0000, Jeanne wrote:

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> "m Ransley" <ransley@webtv.net> wrote
>> Where is the squeak if it is near the floor it could be just needing
>> lube on the cupling.

>
> Unfortunately, the squeak sounds like it is coming from the steering wheel
> base. Thanks.


Interesting! As I said in my prior post, this has NOTHING to do with the
rack and pinion, and will go away when the weather warms up!
If you have a nechanic you trust, or know someone who does, have them look
at it and advise you on the pump/hose. Replacing those now will be a LOT
better than damaging the rack and pinion. BUT, if the squeak is INSIDE the
car, all that needs to be done is remove the sterring wheel and greas the
'rings' inside it (the horn connections, etc, and the steering column
itself). And grease that coupling to boot. When you open the hood, look
back towards the firewall on the driver's side, and then look down. You'll
see a rod coming out from the passenger's compartment, and then a fitting,
and then another rod coming from the rack and pinion, and there will be a
U-joint type doohickey. Grease or oil the U-joints.

Good luck. (BUt $1000 is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I live in the Amherst MA area and run a dealership. If you are around here
let me know, I'll give you directions. I'll look myself and tell you what
you need.
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 08:11 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"HachiRoku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote

> Interesting! As I said in my prior post, this has NOTHING to do with the
> rack and pinion, and will go away when the weather warms up!


You know. The squeak JUST started, and the weather JUST turned cold here
in Arizona. Hmmm,

> If you have a nechanic you trust, or know someone who does, have them look
> at it and advise you on the pump/hose. Replacing those now will be a LOT
> better than damaging the rack and pinion. BUT, if the squeak is INSIDE the
> car, all that needs to be done is remove the sterring wheel and greas the
> 'rings' inside it (the horn connections, etc, and the steering column
> itself). And grease that coupling to boot. When you open the hood, look
> back towards the firewall on the driver's side, and then look down. You'll
> see a rod coming out from the passenger's compartment, and then a fitting,
> and then another rod coming from the rack and pinion, and there will be a
> U-joint type doohickey. Grease or oil the U-joints.


Now this is an outcome that would bring a smile to my face!
>
> Good luck. (BUt $1000 is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!)


I thought so. I'm through with the distributor.
>
> I live in the Amherst MA area and run a dealership. If you are around here
> let me know, I'll give you directions. I'll look myself and tell you what
> you need.


I wish! Too far for an AZ girl to drive!
I got a kick out of your "bat your eyes" comment. Hey...whatever works. :-)
Thank you!
Jeanne


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Old 04 Dec 2004, 10:49 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 02:11:52 +0000, Jeanne wrote:

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> "HachiRoku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote
>
>> Interesting! As I said in my prior post, this has NOTHING to do with the
>> rack and pinion, and will go away when the weather warms up!

>
> You know. The squeak JUST started, and the weather JUST turned cold here
> in Arizona. Hmmm,


Um, how cold CAN it be in AZ????


>
> Now this is an outcome that would bring a smile to my face!
>>
>> Good luck. (BUt $1000 is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

>
> I thought so. I'm through with the distributor.
>>
>> I live in the Amherst MA area and run a dealership. If you are around here
>> let me know, I'll give you directions. I'll look myself and tell you what
>> you need.

>
> I wish! Too far for an AZ girl to drive!
> I got a kick out of your "bat your eyes" comment. Hey...whatever works. :-)
> Thank you!
> Jeanne



Ah, well. I was afraid about ht the 'bat your eyes' comment (yeah, it's
chauvanistic! LOL) But when a girl about my daughter's age comes in I
help them out or steer them somewhere that can.

I'm surprised on a '97, because I haven't had the steering wheel squeal in
about 25 years! (I have an '83 Tercel wagon that does it when it gets
cold...ah reminds me of the good ol days!) but none of my others do it. It
seems to have gone away in the late '80s. That's why I was surprised when
I saw '97! I never bothered to fix it; it always went away in the spring!
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 10:53 pm   #10 (permalink)
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HachiRoku wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 02:11:52 +0000, Jeanne wrote:
>
>>
>> "HachiRoku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote
>>
>>> Interesting! As I said in my prior post, this has NOTHING to do
>>> with the rack and pinion, and will go away when the weather warms
>>> up!

>>
>> You know. The squeak JUST started, and the weather JUST turned
>> cold here in Arizona. Hmmm,

>
> Um, how cold CAN it be in AZ????


12/04/2004 @ 21:00 Weather Channel reports 28 degrees F in Flagstaff.
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