Splashing Rubbing Alcohol to deice windows - Good Idea

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Old 23 Dec 2004, 08:57 pm   #1 (permalink)
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After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a good
idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of the frost
buster stuff?


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Old 23 Dec 2004, 09:05 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57:46 -0500, "Car Guy" <ac222@hotmail.com>
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>After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a good
>idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of the frost
>buster stuff?
>

Just as the de-icers, it'll eat the wax off your painted parts. After
that, it'll start eating the paint. Painters wash their spray can
parts in alcohol based solvents.

Again, Tap water works on the glass, but don't pour it near your door
locks.

And NEVER use hot water to "unfreeze" locks. You'll be forever sorry.
Get a little tube of graphite.
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Old 23 Dec 2004, 09:36 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:05:02 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57:46 -0500, "Car Guy" <ac222@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a good
>>idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of the frost
>>buster stuff?
>>

> Just as the de-icers, it'll eat the wax off your painted parts. After
> that, it'll start eating the paint. Painters wash their spray can
> parts in alcohol based solvents.
>
> Again, Tap water works on the glass, but don't pour it near your door
> locks.
>
> And NEVER use hot water to "unfreeze" locks. You'll be forever sorry.
> Get a little tube of graphite.



Hey, Gary, I beg to differ! Using alchohol on thoroughly hardened paint
will have a minimal effect. (It WILL dull the clear coat, like acid rain).
Using alchohol to clean the spray guns, etc works effectively because the
solvents haven't 'flashed off' yet. But, after using alchohol to free a
stuck door or lock, WIPE IT DOWN with water very rapidly, or it will
attack the clearcoat if left on.

Haven't we all splashed gasoline on the paint at the fillin' station?
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Old 23 Dec 2004, 10:50 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Alcohol is the main antifreeze in all washer fluid, the fluid you use
winter and summer. Most Gas is 10% alcohol. No it will not affect paint.
Perhahs if you soak a towel in alcohol and leave it on you car but so
will gas at that point. Water from your house is to warm it at room temp
could crack glass. So use alcohol if you wish. But it is expensive , a
scraper is best

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Old 24 Dec 2004, 07:31 am   #5 (permalink)
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m Ransley wrote:

> Alcohol is the main antifreeze in all washer fluid, the fluid you use
> winter and summer. Most Gas is 10% alcohol. No it will not affect paint.
> Perhahs if you soak a towel in alcohol and leave it on you car but so
> will gas at that point. Water from your house is to warm it at room temp
> could crack glass. So use alcohol if you wish. But it is expensive , a
> scraper is best
>

Back in the mid 70s we had "gasohol" but that was stopped because it was
eating out the gaskets in carburetors, etc. We don't have carburetors
anymore, so maybe gasohol is shipping again.

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Old 24 Dec 2004, 01:13 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Why not. What do you think is in that deicer stuff?



mike hunt

Car Guy wrote:
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> After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a good
> idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of the frost
> buster stuff?

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Old 26 Dec 2004, 01:40 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> floridly penned in
news:cqg0te$fch$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57:46 -0500, "Car Guy" <ac222@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a
>>good idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of
>>the frost buster stuff?
>>

> Just as the de-icers, it'll eat the wax off your painted parts. After
> that, it'll start eating the paint. Painters wash their spray can
> parts in alcohol based solvents.
>
> Again, Tap water works on the glass, but don't pour it near your door
> locks.
>
> And NEVER use hot water to "unfreeze" locks. You'll be forever sorry.
> Get a little tube of graphite.





Don't use graphite! Very bad idea for automtive locks that are subject to
snowy/icy winters.

The very best thing is spray cans of Rust Check (apparently in Canada
only). Spray liberally into lock until it backs out the keyhole. Locks will
NEVER freeze or stick again, guaranteed.


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Old 26 Dec 2004, 01:54 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On 26 Dec 2004 19:40:50 GMT, "TeGGer®"
<teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:

>Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> floridly penned in
>news:cqg0te$fch$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57:46 -0500, "Car Guy" <ac222@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a
>>>good idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of
>>>the frost buster stuff?
>>>

>> Just as the de-icers, it'll eat the wax off your painted parts. After
>> that, it'll start eating the paint. Painters wash their spray can
>> parts in alcohol based solvents.
>>
>> Again, Tap water works on the glass, but don't pour it near your door
>> locks.
>>
>> And NEVER use hot water to "unfreeze" locks. You'll be forever sorry.
>> Get a little tube of graphite.

>
>
>
>
>Don't use graphite! Very bad idea for automtive locks that are subject to
>snowy/icy winters.


Odd, I've never had a problem, even when I lived in Chicago. Talk
about crappy winters, You could walk out onto Lake Michigan if you
didn't mind stepping across frozen waves.

>The very best thing is spray cans of Rust Check (apparently in Canada
>only). Spray liberally into lock until it backs out the keyhole. Locks will
>NEVER freeze or stick again, guaranteed.



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Old 28 Dec 2004, 12:51 am   #9 (permalink)
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:36:46 GMT, HachiRoku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:05:02 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57:46 -0500, "Car Guy" <ac222@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a good
>>>idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of the frost
>>>buster stuff?
>>>

>> Just as the de-icers, it'll eat the wax off your painted parts. After
>> that, it'll start eating the paint. Painters wash their spray can
>> parts in alcohol based solvents.
>>
>> Again, Tap water works on the glass, but don't pour it near your door
>> locks.
>>
>> And NEVER use hot water to "unfreeze" locks. You'll be forever sorry.
>> Get a little tube of graphite.

>
>
>Hey, Gary, I beg to differ! Using alchohol on thoroughly hardened paint
>will have a minimal effect. (It WILL dull the clear coat, like acid rain).
>Using alchohol to clean the spray guns, etc works effectively because the
>solvents haven't 'flashed off' yet. But, after using alchohol to free a
>stuck door or lock, WIPE IT DOWN with water very rapidly, or it will
>attack the clearcoat if left on.
>
>Haven't we all splashed gasoline on the paint at the fillin' station?


HachiRoku,

We've seen eye-to-eye on many things. I'm afraid that I'm going to
disagree with you on this subject. I would highly recommend against
using any alcohol as it is bad for your paint (as you yourself has
mentioned). Dulling of the clearcoat is bad in my opinion. If it has
to be wiped down with water afterwards as you suggest, then why not
just use water to begin with? Then it will be just a 1-step process.

At one time or another, yes, we've all splashed gasoline at the
filling station. That's why you see a lot of cars who rusts there
first. On the occasions that I've that done that, I immediately wash
that area and re-wax it.

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Old 28 Dec 2004, 02:26 am   #10 (permalink)
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:36:46 GMT, HachiRoku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:05:02 -0500, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57:46 -0500, "Car Guy" <ac222@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>After the 2 inches of ice I had on my car, I was wondering if it is a good
>>>idea to use rubbing alcohol on the windows to deice it instead of the frost
>>>buster stuff?
>>>

>> Just as the de-icers, it'll eat the wax off your painted parts. After
>> that, it'll start eating the paint. Painters wash their spray can
>> parts in alcohol based solvents.
>>
>> Again, Tap water works on the glass, but don't pour it near your door
>> locks.
>>
>> And NEVER use hot water to "unfreeze" locks. You'll be forever sorry.
>> Get a little tube of graphite.

>
>
>Hey, Gary, I beg to differ! Using alchohol on thoroughly hardened paint
>will have a minimal effect. (It WILL dull the clear coat, like acid rain).



Dulling the clear coat IS a Bad Thing[tm]. It doesn't stop there
though. The alcohol doesn't disipate. It continues down to the metal
(gravity> and settles on the metal, causing rust after some time.

>Using alchohol to clean the spray guns, etc works effectively because the
>solvents haven't 'flashed off' yet. But, after using alchohol to free a
>stuck door or lock, WIPE IT DOWN with water very rapidly, or it will
>attack the clearcoat if left on.


So you're saying to use the alcohol to melt the ice then water to
remove the alcohol. Why not just use the water?

>
>Haven't we all splashed gasoline on the paint at the fillin' station?


Yeah, and it sucks bigtime. Haven't you seen cars where people
haven't cleaned it off right away? Rust or at minimum, a horrible
looking streak.
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