My car goes jingle, jingle, jingle.

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Old 13 Aug 2014, 06:54 pm   #1 (permalink)
micky
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Default My car goes jingle, jingle, jingle.

Shifted my car into gear for the fist time since the accident. When I
went back to Park, heard noise like gears messhing, or synchronizers not
syncing. What does this indicate? A serious problem? Needs fixing
immediately???
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Old 13 Aug 2014, 07:52 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: My car goes jingle, jingle, jingle.

micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in
news:v1rnu919ba37co2mpid5ccpgifac1u2pud@4ax.com:

> Shifted my car into gear for the fist time since the accident. When I
> went back to Park, heard noise like gears messhing, or synchronizers not
> syncing. What does this indicate? A serious problem? Needs fixing
> immediately???
>


Just so you don't feel alone and know it can always be worse...

Two weeks ago I was shifting gears in my work car - clang, jingle , chugga
chugga including metal sounds. Engine dies. Turns over fine but won't
start. All symptoms of broken timing belt. Of course most engines now are
interference type. I know this. That's why I had timing belt changed 10k
miles ago when due. Pro mechanic I've known for 10 years and always have
work done by checked it out after I had it towed. Engine junk. He could
tell by listening while cranking that pistons hit valves and maybe broken
rod.

Opt to replace engine with used one. For the hell of it he pulls timing
covers off. Not broken belt but chewed up. One of the pulleys committed
suicide. Parts went between belt and gears causing it to jump. Same result
as broken belt.
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Old 13 Aug 2014, 09:16 pm   #3 (permalink)
Terry Coombs
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Red Green wrote:
> micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in
> news:v1rnu919ba37co2mpid5ccpgifac1u2pud@4ax.com:
>
>> Shifted my car into gear for the fist time since the accident. When
>> I went back to Park, heard noise like gears messhing, or
>> synchronizers not syncing. What does this indicate? A serious
>> problem? Needs fixing immediately???
>>

>
> Just so you don't feel alone and know it can always be worse...
>
> Two weeks ago I was shifting gears in my work car - clang, jingle ,
> chugga chugga including metal sounds. Engine dies. Turns over fine
> but won't start. All symptoms of broken timing belt. Of course most
> engines now are interference type. I know this. That's why I had
> timing belt changed 10k miles ago when due. Pro mechanic I've known
> for 10 years and always have work done by checked it out after I had
> it towed. Engine junk. He could tell by listening while cranking that
> pistons hit valves and maybe broken rod.
>
> Opt to replace engine with used one. For the hell of it he pulls
> timing covers off. Not broken belt but chewed up. One of the pulleys
> committed suicide. Parts went between belt and gears causing it to
> jump. Same result as broken belt.


No , actually that's worse than a broken belt . When the belt breaks , only
the valves that are open are hammered . If the cam (s) keep turning out of
time , they ALL get chewed up .

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Old 13 Aug 2014, 10:41 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:16:47 -0500, "Terry Coombs" <snag_one@msn.com>
wrote:

>Red Green wrote:
>> micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in
>> news:v1rnu919ba37co2mpid5ccpgifac1u2pud@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Shifted my car into gear for the fist time since the accident. When
>>> I went back to Park, heard noise like gears [not] messhing, or
>>> synchronizers not syncing. What does this indicate? A serious
>>> problem? Needs fixing immediately???
>>>

>>
>> Just so you don't feel alone and know it can always be worse...
>>
>> Two weeks ago I was shifting gears in my work car - clang, jingle ,
>> chugga chugga including metal sounds. Engine dies. Turns over fine
>> but won't start. All symptoms of broken timing belt. Of course most
>> engines now are interference type. I know this. That's why I had
>> timing belt changed 10k miles ago when due. Pro mechanic I've known
>> for 10 years and always have work done by checked it out after I had
>> it towed. Engine junk. He could tell by listening while cranking that
>> pistons hit valves and maybe broken rod.
>>
>> Opt to replace engine with used one. For the hell of it he pulls
>> timing covers off. Not broken belt but chewed up. One of the pulleys
>> committed suicide. Parts went between belt and gears causing it to
>> jump. Same result as broken belt.

>
>No , actually that's worse than a broken belt . When the belt breaks , only
>the valves that are open are hammered . If the cam (s) keep turning out of
>time , they ALL get chewed up .


Well, I guess this does make me feel less alone, and better.

Yes, it can always get worse.

Thank you both.
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Old 14 Aug 2014, 09:44 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Red Green posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP

>
> micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in
> news:v1rnu919ba37co2mpid5ccpgifac1u2pud@4ax.com:
>
> > Shifted my car into gear for the fist time since the accident. When I
> > went back to Park, heard noise like gears messhing, or synchronizers not
> > syncing. What does this indicate? A serious problem? Needs fixing
> > immediately???
> >

>

Have it checked out by your mechanic. It is hidden damage and you will have
to get a supplemental on it. The body shop should have fixed it properly but
did not. Maybe they will total it with the additional bux.

> Just so you don't feel alone and know it can always be worse...
>
> Two weeks ago I was shifting gears in my work car - clang, jingle , chugga
> chugga including metal sounds. Engine dies. Turns over fine but won't
> start. All symptoms of broken timing belt. Of course most engines now are
> interference type. I know this. That's why I had timing belt changed 10k
> miles ago when due. Pro mechanic I've known for 10 years and always have
> work done by checked it out after I had it towed. Engine junk. He could
> tell by listening while cranking that pistons hit valves and maybe broken
> rod.
>
> Opt to replace engine with used one. For the hell of it he pulls timing
> covers off. Not broken belt but chewed up. One of the pulleys committed
> suicide. Parts went between belt and gears causing it to jump. Same result
> as broken belt.


This is why manufacturers have "kits" for t/b r&r. It may include water
pumps, etc. Obviously the parts replacer did not use the kit nor perform a
proper repair.

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Old 13 Oct 2014, 04:40 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:54:53 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>Shifted my car into gear for the fist time since the accident. When I
>went back to Park, heard noise like gears messhing, or synchronizers not
>syncing. What does this indicate? A serious problem? Needs fixing
>immediately???


Meant to finish this thread a while back.

After I thought about this for a while, I realized that since my right
front axle was broken in half at the internal universal, when the car
was in Reverse, even though it wasn't moving, the transmission parts
were turning, at idle speed. It was like the right tire was off the
ground.

So since the parts were turning in R, slow as they might have been,
shifting to Park is going to be more difficult than when the car is
actually stopped and the transimisson is stopped too.

And sure enough, I was right. When I replaced the right front axle etc.
and lowered the car to the ground, no more jingle jingle. Sounds just
fine. I drove around the block and it seems just fine, though the right
REAR wheel is also messed up. Needs a forwrd lower locating arm. Mine
is bent about 25^.
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