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Old 27 Dec 2004, 05:09 am   #1 (permalink)
anilkuwait
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I have a brand new 2004 model Toyota Camry Touring (6 cylinder 3000cc
engine)which has done 1100km now. I have been getting an average mileage
of only 7.58 Km per litre without Airconditioning. I am a fuel efficiency
concious driver and my driving habits are such as to maximize fuel
efficiency. I feel this is very low for a new Japanese car which are
suppose to be fuel efficient.

What do you all think. Is there any problem in the car? If yes how to
establish it and how to sort it out? What should be normal average mileage
I shoud expect?

I invite experiece of current owners of the same car. Also request
comments and suggestions, experience of you all.

Thanks

A K jain

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 07:13 am   #2 (permalink)
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Too new to rate.
Engine parts need to bed in before mileage numbers can be reliably
established.
Follow normal "break in" procedures - varied engine speed - no constant
cruise. Carefully read your owner's manual for suggestions and
instruction.
Re check after 15,000 kms.

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 07:45 am   #3 (permalink)
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You measure fuel consumption by using this formula: X number of liters per
100 kms, or, for ex.:
9,2L/100kms. This is what the rest of the world is using as a formula.
Happy Hollidays.

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anilkuwait wrote:
> Friends
>
> I have a brand new 2004 model Toyota Camry Touring (6 cylinder 3000cc
> engine)which has done 1100km now. I have been getting an average
> mileage of only 7.58 Km per litre without Airconditioning. I am a
> fuel efficiency concious driver and my driving habits are such as to
> maximize fuel efficiency. I feel this is very low for a new Japanese
> car which are suppose to be fuel efficient.
>
> What do you all think. Is there any problem in the car? If yes how to
> establish it and how to sort it out? What should be normal average
> mileage I shoud expect?
>
> I invite experiece of current owners of the same car. Also request
> comments and suggestions, experience of you all.
>
> Thanks
>
> A K jain



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Old 27 Dec 2004, 09:41 am   #4 (permalink)
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"anilkuwait" <akjainkuwait@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Friends
>
> I have a brand new 2004 model Toyota Camry Touring (6 cylinder 3000cc
> engine)which has done 1100km now. I have been getting an average mileage
> of only 7.58 Km per litre without Airconditioning. I am a fuel efficiency
> concious driver and my driving habits are such as to maximize fuel
> efficiency. I feel this is very low for a new Japanese car which are
> suppose to be fuel efficient.
>
> What do you all think. Is there any problem in the car? If yes how to
> establish it and how to sort it out? What should be normal average mileage
> I shoud expect?
>
> I invite experiece of current owners of the same car. Also request
> comments and suggestions, experience of you all.
>
> Thanks
>
> A K jain



There are approx 4.5 ltres per imperial gallon. In your case that means you
are getting approx 19 mpg. That's not good economy. Could it be you measured
your fuel usage wrong?

Jason


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Old 27 Dec 2004, 10:13 am   #5 (permalink)
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Jason James wrote:
> "anilkuwait" <akjainkuwait@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Friends
>>
>> I have a brand new 2004 model Toyota Camry Touring (6 cylinder 3000cc
>> engine)which has done 1100km now. I have been getting an average
>> mileage of only 7.58 Km per litre without Airconditioning. I am a
>> fuel efficiency concious driver and my driving habits are such as to
>> maximize fuel efficiency. I feel this is very low for a new Japanese
>> car which are suppose to be fuel efficient.
>>
>> What do you all think. Is there any problem in the car? If yes how to
>> establish it and how to sort it out? What should be normal average
>> mileage I shoud expect?
>>
>> I invite experiece of current owners of the same car. Also request
>> comments and suggestions, experience of you all.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> A K jain

>
>
> There are approx 4.5 ltres per imperial gallon. In your case that
> means you are getting approx 19 mpg. That's not good economy. Could
> it be you measured your fuel usage wrong?
>
> Jason


1 liter = 0.21 Imperial gallon.
So you've got 7.58 km to 0.219 Imp gallon. 4.54 liters to an Imperial
gallon ... 34.41 km per Imperial gallon. I figure 21.38 US miles per
Imperial gallon or 20.2 mpg (US gallons). Close?

One must consider the relatively low accumulated miles, that is winter, and
the possibility of oxygenated fuel being used. With these considerations, I
do not agree these figures are inordinately low at this time. One might
take the car for a sustained 100 mile drive at highway speeds to see if this
optimal running condition nets anywhere close to the advertised MPG. If so,
then the rest (short trips, surface streets, etc) will just be what they
will be.

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 01:49 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Dear mr Jason,

The figure of 7.58 km per litre is accurately determined figure based upon
the distance covered divided by the fuel used where both figures are very
accuretely arrived at. This is also confirmed by the cars built in
multifunction sensors which display the fuel consumption in lit per 100 km
and indicates similar figure of 13.1 lit/100km.

Hence there are no doubts about validity of the figue of 7.58 km/lit. For
some of the readers familiar with other units 7.58 km/lit is equivalent to
following:
* 13.2 lit per 100 km, and
* 17.93 mpg(Miles per US Gallon), 1 US Gallon=3.785 lit
* 21.3 mpg (Miles per Br Gallon), 1 Br Gallon=4.5 lit

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 02:05 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Dear Mr. Philip

Thanks for your thoughts. The EPA figure for this car is 20 mpg to 28 mpg
in City driving condition and in highway driving condition respectively.
Therefore I am getting even 10% less than the expected worst case
mileage.

To offer some more facts, I believe that my trips consist of about 40%
highway driving and 60% city driving, therefore I should get something
like 23.2 mpg (9.8km/lit) against which I am getting 17.9 mpg (7.58
km/lit). Now that is clean 22.6% less and is very significant.

Invite your experience about current mileage of your vehicles please.

Thanks

Jain

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 02:12 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Dear sir,

Thanks for your reply. I am affraid that there is some fundamental defect
in the engine or associated system of the car. I feel that even after some
running the fuel efficiency may not improve beyond 3-4%. Hence it may not
be wise to wait until 15,000 km.

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 02:18 pm   #9 (permalink)
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That sounds low for that car...Tell us exactly how you determined that figure.
You drive the tank down to the E mark
on the gas guage,fill the tank full, record number of gallons pumped, reset the
trip meter to zero,then drive out that tank until you are on E mark again.
Divide miles driven by number of gallons
pumped(NOT BY THE NUMBER OF GALLONS THE TANK HOLDS) for
your MPG. My camry has about 2.5
gallons left after my gas guage is way
below the E mark..

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 04:36 pm   #10 (permalink)
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".Philip." <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Jason James wrote:
> > "anilkuwait" <akjainkuwait@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:80217e6551e7a55feefd57aa46e5dbe2@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> >> Friends
> >>
> >> I have a brand new 2004 model Toyota Camry Touring (6 cylinder 3000cc
> >> engine)which has done 1100km now. I have been getting an average
> >> mileage of only 7.58 Km per litre without Airconditioning. I am a
> >> fuel efficiency concious driver and my driving habits are such as to
> >> maximize fuel efficiency. I feel this is very low for a new Japanese
> >> car which are suppose to be fuel efficient.
> >>
> >> What do you all think. Is there any problem in the car? If yes how to
> >> establish it and how to sort it out? What should be normal average
> >> mileage I shoud expect?
> >>
> >> I invite experiece of current owners of the same car. Also request
> >> comments and suggestions, experience of you all.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> A K jain

> >
> >
> > There are approx 4.5 ltres per imperial gallon. In your case that
> > means you are getting approx 19 mpg. That's not good economy. Could
> > it be you measured your fuel usage wrong?
> >
> > Jason

>
> 1 liter = 0.21 Imperial gallon.
> So you've got 7.58 km to 0.219 Imp gallon. 4.54 liters to an Imperial
> gallon ... 34.41 km per Imperial gallon. I figure 21.38 US miles per
> Imperial gallon or 20.2 mpg (US gallons). Close?
>
> One must consider the relatively low accumulated miles, that is winter,

and
> the possibility of oxygenated fuel being used. With these considerations,

I
> do not agree these figures are inordinately low at this time. One might
> take the car for a sustained 100 mile drive at highway speeds to see if

this
> optimal running condition nets anywhere close to the advertised MPG. If

so,
> then the rest (short trips, surface streets, etc) will just be what they
> will be.


Yeah,....fuel economy is a difficult thing to understand in some cases. If
the driver is on the brakes a lot, accelerating and then throwing that
accumulated power away by turning it to heat in the brakes, then FEconomy
will increase.
My '96 4 cyl manual, gets about 23 'round town (imperial) and about 32 on
the hiway. It really does come into its own on the hiway,..mind you I drive
at a steady 60 mph (the legal limit in Australia except for some expressways
which have 110ks or approx 70 mph) and the car is a manual,..tho lockup TQs
have evened-out manuals with autos on hiway driving economy.

Jason


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