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Old 16 Jan 2005, 10:28 pm   #1 (permalink)
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My son has a '96 Camry. for a year or so each time he turns the key, there
will be a clicking sound and the key will need to be turned 2-3 times
before it will start. Yesterday it wouldn't start at all. The battery and
cables are fine. Could this be the starter? thanks for any help.

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Old 16 Jan 2005, 10:48 pm   #2 (permalink)
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mwe5398 wrote:
> My son has a '96 Camry. for a year or so each time he turns the key, there
> will be a clicking sound and the key will need to be turned 2-3 times
> before it will start. Yesterday it wouldn't start at all. The battery and
> cables are fine. Could this be the starter? thanks for any help.
>

Could be. Next time it happens give the starter a whack with hammer,
while turning the key. Nippon starters used to be notorious for
contactor wear. It's a cheap repair if you do it yourself.
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 12:09 am   #3 (permalink)
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:48:17 -0500, tomcas
<tomcas@mjwebsitedesign.com> wrote:

>mwe5398 wrote:
>> My son has a '96 Camry. for a year or so each time he turns the key, there
>> will be a clicking sound and the key will need to be turned 2-3 times
>> before it will start. Yesterday it wouldn't start at all. The battery and
>> cables are fine. Could this be the starter? thanks for any help.
>>

>Could be. Next time it happens give the starter a whack with hammer,
>while turning the key. Nippon starters used to be notorious for
>contactor wear. It's a cheap repair if you do it yourself.


It is true that older NipponDenso starters are notorious for their
contacts wearing out when old. That typically gave just one "tick"
noise rather than the clicking noise though. From what I've seen the
clicking noise is cause by dirty or loose terminals. You said that
the battery and cables are fine. But, what about the terminals? Make
sure to take them off and clean all of the terminals and the battery
posts. If you have one of those thick, non-factory, lead terminals,
they are junk. Make sure to replace them with the factory ones.
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 08:08 am   #4 (permalink)
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tomcas wrote:
> mwe5398 wrote:
>> My son has a '96 Camry. for a year or so each time he turns the key,
>> there will be a clicking sound and the key will need to be turned
>> 2-3 times before it will start. Yesterday it wouldn't start at all.
>> The battery and cables are fine. Could this be the starter? thanks
>> for any help.

> Could be. Next time it happens give the starter a whack with hammer,


Actually it's not a good idea to hit a starter anymore. Many newer starters
have ceramic magnets which can break under impact and are expensive to
replace. For this reason many rebuilders won't accept a starter for core
exchange if there are hammer marks on case.

> while turning the key. Nippon starters used to be notorious for
> contactor wear. It's a cheap repair if you do

it yourself.

True. There are several posts on this in the Toyota NG's and on several
Toyota related web sites. Should be able to google and find it easy enough.
HTH, davidj92


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Old 17 Jan 2005, 09:43 am   #5 (permalink)
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These instructions should work -
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/starter/

"davidj92" <davidj92@sigecom.net> wrote in message
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> tomcas wrote:
>> mwe5398 wrote:
>>> My son has a '96 Camry. for a year or so each time he turns the key,
>>> there will be a clicking sound and the key will need to be turned
>>> 2-3 times before it will start. Yesterday it wouldn't start at all.
>>> The battery and cables are fine. Could this be the starter? thanks
>>> for any help.

>> Could be. Next time it happens give the starter a whack with hammer,

>
> Actually it's not a good idea to hit a starter anymore. Many newer
> starters have ceramic magnets which can break under impact and are
> expensive to replace. For this reason many rebuilders won't accept a
> starter for core exchange if there are hammer marks on case.
>
>> while turning the key. Nippon starters used to be notorious for
>> contactor wear. It's a cheap repair if you do

> it yourself.
>
> True. There are several posts on this in the Toyota NG's and on several
> Toyota related web sites. Should be able to google and find it easy
> enough.
> HTH, davidj92
>



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Old 17 Jan 2005, 01:38 pm   #6 (permalink)
William W. Plummer
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Wolfgang wrote:

> These instructions should work -
> http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/starter/
>
> "davidj92" <davidj92@sigecom.net> wrote in message
> news:_8-dnXkPZdVDW3bcRVn-rQ@sigecom.net...
>
>>tomcas wrote:
>>
>>>mwe5398 wrote:
>>>
>>>>My son has a '96 Camry. for a year or so each time he turns the key,
>>>>there will be a clicking sound and the key will need to be turned
>>>>2-3 times before it will start. Yesterday it wouldn't start at all.
>>>>The battery and cables are fine. Could this be the starter? thanks
>>>>for any help.
>>>
>>>Could be. Next time it happens give the starter a whack with hammer,

>>
>>Actually it's not a good idea to hit a starter anymore. Many newer
>>starters have ceramic magnets which can break under impact and are
>>expensive to replace. For this reason many rebuilders won't accept a
>>starter for core exchange if there are hammer marks on case.
>>
>>
>>>while turning the key. Nippon starters used to be notorious for
>>>contactor wear. It's a cheap repair if you do

>>
>>it yourself.
>>
>>True. There are several posts on this in the Toyota NG's and on several
>>Toyota related web sites. Should be able to google and find it easy
>>enough.
>>HTH, davidj92
>>

>
>
>

The problem could also be (invisible) corrosion on the battery
terminals. This causes high resistance. The high current for starting
is unavailable and reduces the voltage enough that the solenoid drops
out and chatters. So, you can check the voltage at the solenoid while
cranking. The terminals must be cleaned even if they don't look
corroded. Typically this happens in the spring or fall when the
temperature has changed. Also, a worn ignition switch can cause the
same problem.

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