96 camry transmission / differential oil

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Old 31 Jan 2005, 06:32 pm   #1 (permalink)
mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com
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Default 96 camry transmission / differential oil

Hi guys,

I have a '96 camry, 4-cylinder, automatic, that my dad gave to me a few
years ago.

I read in the Haynes manual that the differential oil needs to be
checked every 15,000 miles.

I put the car on ramps, crawled under, and I *think* I found the
differential plug - is it the one that's behind the transmission, with
a large-ish plug (14 or 16 mm or so in diameter)? The picture from the
Haynes didn't look quite the same as the one in my car.

Another question: on the '96 camry (4-cylinder), does the transmission
share fluid with the differential? If so, I guess there wouldn't be a
need to check from the plug...?

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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Old 31 Jan 2005, 07:08 pm   #2 (permalink)
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If the manual said check it that to me means it is different. You are
surely past due for a change. For me it was to hard a lift was needed to
refill it.

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Old 01 Feb 2005, 10:36 am   #3 (permalink)
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m Ransley wrote:
> If the manual said check it that to me means it is different. You

are
> surely past due for a change. For me it was to hard a lift was needed

to
> refill it.


So the differential oil and tranny oil are separated into two different
reservoirs?

Mike

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Old 01 Feb 2005, 11:11 am   #4 (permalink)
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mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com wrote:
> m Ransley wrote:
>> If the manual said check it that to me means it is different. You
>> are surely past due for a change. For me it was to hard a lift was
>> needed to refill it.

>
> So the differential oil and tranny oil are separated into two
> different reservoirs?
>
> Mike


In my 94 that is true. I don't know if that changed some time.
Replacing the differential fluid is a bitch without some sort of pump.
The filler hole is on the side of the casing and because of obstructions
a flexible tube is neccessary for refilling. I got transmission fluid
everywhere and had to throw my clothes away.


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Old 01 Feb 2005, 11:26 am   #5 (permalink)
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badgolferman wrote:
> mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com wrote:
> > m Ransley wrote:
> >> If the manual said check it that to me means it is different. You
> >> are surely past due for a change. For me it was to hard a lift was
> >> needed to refill it.

> >
> > So the differential oil and tranny oil are separated into two
> > different reservoirs?
> >
> > Mike

>
> In my 94 that is true. I don't know if that changed some time.
> Replacing the differential fluid is a bitch without some sort of

pump.
> The filler hole is on the side of the casing and because of

obstructions
> a flexible tube is neccessary for refilling. I got transmission

fluid
> everywhere and had to throw my clothes away.



Ok, that makes sense that there are two reservoirs if there is a
separate plug...

My plug is really stuck on tight. I couldn't turn it, plus there was a
metal support bar of some sort in the way. Any suggestions?
Thanks,

Mike

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Old 01 Feb 2005, 12:42 pm   #6 (permalink)
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I took mine to a quick change, even with the car jacked up there is no
room to work on it to remove the filler plug and filling it is even
tougher. It is only DIY if you have a lift

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Old 02 Feb 2005, 07:12 am   #7 (permalink)
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mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com wrote:
> badgolferman wrote:
>> mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com wrote:
>>> m Ransley wrote:
>>>> If the manual said check it that to me means it is different. You
>>>> are surely past due for a change. For me it was to hard a lift was
>>>> needed to refill it.
>>>
>>> So the differential oil and tranny oil are separated into two
>>> different reservoirs?
>>>
>>> Mike

>>
>> In my 94 that is true. I don't know if that changed some time.
>> Replacing the differential fluid is a bitch without some sort of
>> pump. The filler hole is on the side of the casing and because of
>> obstructions a flexible tube is neccessary for refilling. I got
>> transmission fluid everywhere and had to throw my clothes away.

>
>
> Ok, that makes sense that there are two reservoirs if there is a
> separate plug...
>
> My plug is really stuck on tight. I couldn't turn it, plus there was
> a metal support bar of some sort in the way. Any suggestions?
> Thanks,
>
> Mike


I used a ratchet with extensions and u-joint to get it past the support
bar where I could turn the handle. Still, it is a bitch to refill it
without a pump. Don't use the hand squeezing type you get at auto parts
stores, they're worthless and fall apart easily, leading to massive
messes like I had. If you can get it done at a service station that may
be worth it.


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Old 02 Feb 2005, 08:45 am   #8 (permalink)
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mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com wrote:
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> My plug is really stuck on tight. I couldn't turn it, plus there was

a
> metal support bar of some sort in the way.


Maybe if that fill plug is giving you trouble, best just take the car
to a mechanic.
IIRC takes a 17 mm wrench. I just use two combination wrenches linked
together to apply the extra torque required. Comes right off. No
clearance problem because the wrenches are thin. Proto brand. Quality
tools are a joy each time you pick them up.
Found no problem doing this work with a floor jack and jack stands.
Lift and support the subframe at the spherical center point and tubular
side sections.
>From the times I've changed gear oil in standard transmissions, I have

a suction pump - a blue metal cylinder with knurled sections for grip
that has a plunger handle at the back and can be used to suck up fluid
then eject it through a flexible snout into the differential fill hole.
I understand the easier method is to use a funnel from above with a two
foot length of flexible hose.
Still, a lot easier pumping ATF than 90W gear oil. :-)
Filling is a bit messy, but I'm still using the same mechanic clothes.
Just put them in the washer when done.

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Old 02 Feb 2005, 08:56 am   #9 (permalink)
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com wrote:
> > badgolferman wrote:
> >> mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com wrote:
> >>> m Ransley wrote:
> >>>> If the manual said check it that to me means it is different. You
> >>>> are surely past due for a change. For me it was to hard a lift was
> >>>> needed to refill it.
> >>>
> >>> So the differential oil and tranny oil are separated into two
> >>> different reservoirs?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>
> >> In my 94 that is true. I don't know if that changed some time.
> >> Replacing the differential fluid is a bitch without some sort of
> >> pump. The filler hole is on the side of the casing and because of
> >> obstructions a flexible tube is neccessary for refilling. I got
> >> transmission fluid everywhere and had to throw my clothes away.

> >
> >
> > Ok, that makes sense that there are two reservoirs if there is a
> > separate plug...
> >
> > My plug is really stuck on tight. I couldn't turn it, plus there was
> > a metal support bar of some sort in the way. Any suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike

>
> I used a ratchet with extensions and u-joint to get it past the support
> bar where I could turn the handle. Still, it is a bitch to refill it
> without a pump. Don't use the hand squeezing type you get at auto parts
> stores, they're worthless and fall apart easily, leading to massive
> messes like I had. If you can get it done at a service station that may
> be worth it.


I bought a cheap oil-pump to fill the diff in mine,..from memory there
wasn't much room at the front due the subframe. Tried using the
plastic-extension filler on the oil-bottle,..but no-go

If you are going to work on cars,...a decent 1/2" drive (ratchet plus
straight with T bar) and sockets is essential. Those cheap socket sets are
junk.

Jason


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