Sloppy Keys in two Camrys 89 & 90

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Old 08 Feb 2005, 06:14 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default Sloppy Keys in two Camrys 89 & 90

The driver side lock and the ignition lock cylinder are very worn on
these cars (and on a now-departed 1986 Camry). If you have
high-mileage Camrys you know the story - key practically falls out of
the ignition, can open the door with a flat screw driver, etc., etc.
And it's not because I hang too much weight on the key. I don't feel
like shelling out $C115 to reward Totota for putting such shoddy locks
on their otherwise excellent cars.

Any cheap fixes available out there, and how difficult is it to re-key
door locks (i.e., replace the tumblers with ones from a healthier
donor)? Anybody done this?

Thanks in advance,
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Old 08 Feb 2005, 06:22 pm   #2 (permalink)
Wolfgang
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Avoid putting them on a ring with 2 lbs of other keys and they'll last 280k
miles! Why not add power door locks - kit from JC Whitney's is only like
$70 for 4 doors.. 15 years of service isn't bad - is it? Door cylinders are
easy to replace.

"H2Only" <gsnieder@canspec.com> wrote in message
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> The driver side lock and the ignition lock cylinder are very worn on
> these cars (and on a now-departed 1986 Camry). If you have
> high-mileage Camrys you know the story - key practically falls out of
> the ignition, can open the door with a flat screw driver, etc., etc.
> And it's not because I hang too much weight on the key. I don't feel
> like shelling out $C115 to reward Totota for putting such shoddy locks
> on their otherwise excellent cars.
>
> Any cheap fixes available out there, and how difficult is it to re-key
> door locks (i.e., replace the tumblers with ones from a healthier
> donor)? Anybody done this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> H2Only



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Old 08 Feb 2005, 06:36 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Get the keys copied, they may fit fine, old ones may be the problem.
Perhaps the locks wont hold the keys is also because of dirt in the lock
is not alowing pins to move in and out. There must be a cleaner -lube
you can spray in the lock

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Old 09 Feb 2005, 11:15 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:36:24 -0600, ransley@webtv.net (m Ransley)
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> Get the keys copied, they may fit fine, old ones may be the problem.
>Perhaps the locks wont hold the keys is also because of dirt in the lock
>is not alowing pins to move in and out. There must be a cleaner -lube
>you can spray in the lock


I problem I did notice are bad copies. People tend to go to Walmart
or other inferior copiers and copy the original. This tends to create
errors in replication. The proper way to cut a key is to use the key
code. A dealer or proper locksmith can easily cut the key from the
code so there are no errors.
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Old 10 Feb 2005, 06:52 am   #5 (permalink)
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True use a key code for copying , old worn rounded keys wont give the
correct sharp tooth pattern , I have an unused key somewhere that is
sharp and correct

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Old 10 Feb 2005, 02:29 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On 8 Feb 2005 16:14:36 -0800, gsnieder@canspec.com (H2Only)
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>The driver side lock and the ignition lock cylinder are very worn on
>these cars (and on a now-departed 1986 Camry). If you have
>high-mileage Camrys you know the story - key practically falls out of
>the ignition, can open the door with a flat screw driver, etc., etc.
>And it's not because I hang too much weight on the key. I don't feel
>like shelling out $C115 to reward Totota for putting such shoddy locks
>on their otherwise excellent cars.
>
>Any cheap fixes available out there, and how difficult is it to re-key
>door locks (i.e., replace the tumblers with ones from a healthier
>donor)? Anybody done this?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>H2Only



I have an 89 Camry since new. Recently an attempt was made
to steal this car using a sissor (RCMP says that is the
prefered tool to break ignition locks) anyway the sissor
broke, the Camry lock did not. Locksmith removed the broken
sissor tip and although the lock was a little rough for a
few weeks it's now back to normal. So I am more than pleased
with the quality of the locks.

Slim
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Old 10 Feb 2005, 08:59 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Viperkiller wrote:
lock is not alowing pins to move in and out. There must be a
>> cleaner -lube you can spray in the lock

>


Get a can of aerosol Lube/Penetrant from a Ford dealer. Best stuff I've
found and only costs about $5-$6.

> I problem I did notice are bad copies. People tend to go to Walmart
> or other inferior copiers and copy the original. This tends to create
> errors in replication. The proper way to cut a key is to use the key
> code. A dealer or proper locksmith can easily cut the key from the
> code so there are no errors.


If you don't have the codes for a locksmith then a dealer should be able to
get the key codes for you from the VIN. They only need you to prove
ownership and your identity. If they know you they'll bypass the
verification.
HTH, davidj92


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Old 11 Feb 2005, 01:14 am   #8 (permalink)
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:50 -0600, "davidj92" <davidj92@sigecom.net>
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>If you don't have the codes for a locksmith then a dealer should be able to
>get the key codes for you from the VIN. They only need you to prove
>ownership and your identity. If they know you they'll bypass the
>verification.
>HTH, davidj92
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The dealer only have the codes for 5 years back. That's at least how
it is here at my location on the Southeast. Toyota themselves can get
it for longer than that. They will have to give it to the parts
manager of your local dealer, who will in turn, check for your ID.
Fortunately, I know a locksmith who can get the key code from an
unused spare key that I have. m Ransley apparently has the same idea.

Lexus is a different story since they use the lasercut keys.
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Old 11 Feb 2005, 11:53 am   #9 (permalink)
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Viperkiller <nothing@nothing.net> wrote in message news:<u8rl01t73pnqgjae8lujj11v9l98i0rprc@4ax.com>. ..
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:36:24 -0600, ransley@webtv.net (m Ransley)
> wrote:
>
> > Get the keys copied, they may fit fine, old ones may be the problem.
> >Perhaps the locks wont hold the keys is also because of dirt in the lock
> >is not alowing pins to move in and out. There must be a cleaner -lube
> >you can spray in the lock

>
> I problem I did notice are bad copies. People tend to go to Walmart
> or other inferior copiers and copy the original. This tends to create
> errors in replication. The proper way to cut a key is to use the key
> code. A dealer or proper locksmith can easily cut the key from the
> code so there are no errors.



Good suggestion about the key code, the key is worn at least as much
as the lock, I'm sure. I'll try that first since its much easier and
cheaper. Also good advice about locksmiths - why get it made by a kid
a the hardware store just to save a few bucks? I haven't done that
for many years.
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