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Old 09 Feb 2005, 10:04 am   #1 (permalink)
tsofco
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Can some one shed some light on this 1998 Toyota Camry Repair Manual.

Repair Manual "VOL 2 ENG, BODY, CHASSIS" RM589U2 (By Toyota) $ 118.74

How do you compare this with the Haynes Manual. Is it worth the price?
Does it have better/Clear instructions compared to the other manuals.

Thanks for your time.

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Old 09 Feb 2005, 12:00 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:04:05 -0500, tsofco wrote:

> Can some one shed some light on this 1998 Toyota Camry Repair Manual.
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> Repair Manual "VOL 2 ENG, BODY, CHASSIS" RM589U2 (By Toyota) $ 118.74
>
> How do you compare this with the Haynes Manual. Is it worth the price?
> Does it have better/Clear instructions compared to the other manuals.
>
> Thanks for your time.


For about $50-75 you can get a Bentley(?) that covers the whole car, is 10
times better than the Haynes and doesn't assume you already know the car
inside out like the Toyota.
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Old 09 Feb 2005, 05:57 pm   #3 (permalink)
Wolfgang
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Yeah if you're going to get that involved in repairs - but there are 2-3
volumes. Check ebay you should be able to get the complete set for $50-75.

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> Can some one shed some light on this 1998 Toyota Camry Repair Manual.
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> Repair Manual "VOL 2 ENG, BODY, CHASSIS" RM589U2 (By Toyota) $ 118.74
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> How do you compare this with the Haynes Manual. Is it worth the price?
> Does it have better/Clear instructions compared to the other manuals.
>
> Thanks for your time.
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Old 09 Feb 2005, 06:12 pm   #4 (permalink)
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The Toyota manual definitely has content over Haynes/Chiltons (I've always
prefered Chiltons over Haynes). The info contained in that manual is very
detailed and accurate. However, they are designed with the thought that
those using them are most likely professional techs who already have a
solid grasp on the car and its processes. You will not find any broad
descriptions or theory discussed in the FM. One thing that is nice about
Chiltons is that every section or repair process has a few basics about
the system that is laid out.
Also, the book you mantioned has no diagnostic processes in it, only
instructions for removing/rebuilding components. Diagnostics makes up all
of Vol 1.
So, if you need a book for basic maintenance & repair, grab a Chilton
for $25. Save a hundred bucks for your next parts bill.

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Old 09 Feb 2005, 06:28 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:04:05 -0500, "tsofco" <tsofco@comcast.net>
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>Can some one shed some light on this 1998 Toyota Camry Repair Manual.
>
>Repair Manual "VOL 2 ENG, BODY, CHASSIS" RM589U2 (By Toyota) $ 118.74
>
>How do you compare this with the Haynes Manual. Is it worth the price?
>Does it have better/Clear instructions compared to the other manuals.
>
>Thanks for your time.

Way better than Haynes or Chiltons. Much more detailed. Sometimes
these turn up used on Ebay for a lot less.




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Old 10 Feb 2005, 07:45 am   #6 (permalink)
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:12:16 -0500, "qslim" <Suckers@suckersdotcom>
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>detailed and accurate. However, they are designed with the thought that
>those using them are most likely professional techs who already have a
>solid grasp on the car and its processes.


I got the factory service manual and as the writer indicated, it is
sometimes difficult to figure out what really needs to be done. I
supplement it with Haynes.

What really has helped me too is to purchase a series of haynes
manuals that discuss topics more generally - not specific to any car.
For example they have a manual on brakes and a manual on Anti-lock
brakes. If you understand the systems that your doing maintenance,
that goes a long way.

Although I like the haynes topic manuals I'd be interested in hearing
other's suggestions on good books on automotive theory.
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Old 10 Feb 2005, 09:03 am   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks Guys, for all the information.

I had a Tercel factory Manual and I really liked it. However it was lot
cheaper than the Camry manual(s). What I liked about the factory manual
is, the clear diagrams.

This site has some good tech articles that I have really enjoyed reading.
It is worth a visit.
http://www.autoshop101.com/techartic...larticles.html




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Old 10 Feb 2005, 12:01 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Keep checking eBay.
Found some for the Camry quite reasonably priced. Initially, everything
I saw was more than I wanted to pay (had no immediate need, and already
had the Haynes manual), but then found some I considered reasonable in
price. First time I bought the year prior, then when I found the exact
year, sold those back and re purchased. I think the net cost for a two
volume set for my year was around $50. They were essentially in new
condition. The seller had purchased them with the vehicle, but when he
sold the car, the buyer had no interest in the factory service manuals,
so he put them on eBay.
You should get both Volumes. Personally, I find it interesting just to
read through them to see how all the systems work. There are diagnostic
procedures - trouble shooting the secondary ignition system for
example, that you won't find anywhere else.
If you plan to do work on your car, the factory manuals are clearly the
best.
For example, the factory manual shows the valve cover nut torque at 17
ft. lbs. for the top, and 29 ft. lbs for the base of the spark plug
tubes screwing into the aluminum head.
Recently saw a post where Haynes listed the torque at 33 ft. lbs. and
the guy cracked his valve cover.
Recently changed the idle control valve. The factory manual gave
several related adjustments that were very helpful - and needed
adjusting - relating to the throttle body.
Haynes does not go into this level of detail.

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Old 10 Feb 2005, 09:06 pm   #9 (permalink)
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hachiroku wrote:
> For about $50-75 you can get a Bentley(?) that covers the whole car,


Found this via Google:
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/

HTH, davidj92


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