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Old 16 Feb 2005, 11:36 am   #1 (permalink)
Big Kahuna
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Default Check engine light-2002

Howdy.

My 2002 Camry just started to display the "Check Engine" light. I'd just
filled the car, but I'm careful to always click the gas cap so I don't
think that's the problem.

It stayed on for about 500 miles on a trip back from Arizona to SF. I
called the dealer and they said it's $60 just to "diagnose" it (that is,
hook up their little device and read a code) then whatever it takes to
fix the "problem."

Question: This is a 2002 with 20k miles. When a car has problems with
the various sensors meant to monitor the car--not a mechanical problem
itself--shouldn't that be covered in the warranty? Or is it?

Does Autozone still read the codes at no charge?

When I searched past group postings on this, the vast majority seemed to
be something like "replace the O2 sensor" or some *monitoring*
device--not an actual engine problem. So in effect, I'll be paying them
$60 + $$$ to fix the system that is broken that is supposed to monitor
for problems; in other words, the expensive-to-fix monitoring system is
broken, not the car.

Kinda pisses me off; any advice before I take it in and bend over?

--Pissy
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Old 16 Feb 2005, 12:26 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Big Kahuna wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> My 2002 Camry just started to display the "Check Engine" light. I'd
> just filled the car, but I'm careful to always click the gas cap so I
> don't think that's the problem.
>
> It stayed on for about 500 miles on a trip back from Arizona to SF. I
> called the dealer and they said it's $60 just to "diagnose" it (that
> is, hook up their little device and read a code) then whatever it
> takes to fix the "problem."
>
> Question: This is a 2002 with 20k miles. When a car has problems
> with the various sensors meant to monitor the car--not a mechanical
> problem itself--shouldn't that be covered in the warranty? Or is it?
>
> Does Autozone still read the codes at no charge?
>

I would say yes to both questions. The warrany is 3 yrs, 36k miles unless
they changed it from 2001 to 2002.
davidj92


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Old 16 Feb 2005, 02:03 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"Big Kahuna" <none@nothanks.com> wrote in message
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> Howdy.
>
> My 2002 Camry just started to display the "Check Engine" light. I'd just
> filled the car, but I'm careful to always click the gas cap so I don't
> think that's the problem.
>
> It stayed on for about 500 miles on a trip back from Arizona to SF. I
> called the dealer and they said it's $60 just to "diagnose" it (that is,
> hook up their little device and read a code) then whatever it takes to
> fix the "problem."
>
> Question: This is a 2002 with 20k miles. When a car has problems with
> the various sensors meant to monitor the car--not a mechanical problem
> itself--shouldn't that be covered in the warranty? Or is it?
>
> Does Autozone still read the codes at no charge?
>
> When I searched past group postings on this, the vast majority seemed to
> be something like "replace the O2 sensor" or some *monitoring*
> device--not an actual engine problem. So in effect, I'll be paying them
> $60 + $$$ to fix the system that is broken that is supposed to monitor
> for problems; in other words, the expensive-to-fix monitoring system is
> broken, not the car.
>
> Kinda pisses me off; any advice before I take it in and bend over?
>
> --Pissy


i picked up an '02 LE 4cyl w/20K miles around the end of January from a lady
in FL. i drove it 950miles straight to Virginia non stop and filled up again
and the check engine light came on. when i got the car home here to NJ,
another 350 miles, the light was still on so i went straight to the dealer
before even stopping home, the service advisor said it's can happen
sometimes on long trips for the light to come on and he said to check the
fuel cap and he went out to the car and checked, that wasn't the problem.
they didn't have a date avail. for about a week, and he told me that the
light would probably go out on it's own before i got back for my
appointment, in the mean time i had to get the car inspected and i got lucky
because the light did go out for a while, (one thing i did notice during all
this time was that the car was hard to start cold. i would turn the key but
it wouldn't turn over the first few seconds, it would only turn over the
second time i cranked the engine but it wouldn't have a high idle, it would
only idle real low) but it would come back on after some use. one day when
i start4ed the car i noticed the light was out so i took a shot at the
inspection station and it went thru no problem and passed, but i did come on
about half way home so i called the service advisor and told him what was
happening and he made a note of it. when i brought it in for service, he
called a few hours later and said the injectors were bad and he was going to
replace them at no charge. the car has had no more problems since and the
cold idle is where is suppose to be, it idles down real nice and no more
service light.....yet, i 'm keeping my finger crossed.

good luck,

mike............


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Old 16 Feb 2005, 02:14 pm   #4 (permalink)
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AZ sells a new ODB 2 code tester that will tell you the code and reset
the
"Check Engine" lite.( $89 )
Was on sale in last Sundays Paper ad.
Good Luck.......

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Old 16 Feb 2005, 03:17 pm   #5 (permalink)
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W.T. MC GLYNN wrote:
> AZ sells a new ODB 2 code tester that will tell you the code
> and reset the "Check Engine" lite.( $89 )


$69 at Pep Boys.
http://pepboys.crossmediaservices.co...14871&offerid=


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Old 16 Feb 2005, 05:03 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:17:56 GMT, "Travis Jordan" <no.one@no.net>
wrote:

>W.T. MC GLYNN wrote:
>> AZ sells a new ODB 2 code tester that will tell you the code
>> and reset the "Check Engine" lite.( $89 )

>
>$69 at Pep Boys.
>http://pepboys.crossmediaservices.co...14871&offerid=
>



Or, have Autozone read the code(s) for free.

To reset the light, pull the negative battery cable for 30 seconds.

I know, rude and crude, but the price is right.


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Old 16 Feb 2005, 05:20 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Curtis Newton wrote:
> To reset the light, pull the negative battery cable for 30 seconds.


Not all OBD-II codes can be reset by disconnecting power.


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Old 17 Feb 2005, 07:46 am   #8 (permalink)
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Autozone does it for free.

When mine went out, I got a check @ autozone.
Could be the O2 Sensor, EGR valve or many other components but get it
checked out.

Do not disconnect the battery. It is a temporary fix

Big Kahuna wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> My 2002 Camry just started to display the "Check Engine" light. I'd

just
> filled the car, but I'm careful to always click the gas cap so I

don't
> think that's the problem.
>
> It stayed on for about 500 miles on a trip back from Arizona to SF.

I
> called the dealer and they said it's $60 just to "diagnose" it (that

is,
> hook up their little device and read a code) then whatever it takes

to
> fix the "problem."
>
> Question: This is a 2002 with 20k miles. When a car has problems

with
> the various sensors meant to monitor the car--not a mechanical

problem
> itself--shouldn't that be covered in the warranty? Or is it?
>
> Does Autozone still read the codes at no charge?
>
> When I searched past group postings on this, the vast majority seemed

to
> be something like "replace the O2 sensor" or some *monitoring*
> device--not an actual engine problem. So in effect, I'll be paying

them
> $60 + $$$ to fix the system that is broken that is supposed to

monitor
> for problems; in other words, the expensive-to-fix monitoring system

is
> broken, not the car.
>
> Kinda pisses me off; any advice before I take it in and bend over?
>
> --Pissy


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Old 17 Feb 2005, 09:32 am   #9 (permalink)
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It could be a number of things. We bought an 01 in the summer with 30k
on it. The light has come on regularly. The first dealer check & reset
was free--they said it was the gas cap. The second they told us they'd
charge us for if it was the same as the first. We bit the bullet, and
the code said replace the catalytic converter., which they did under
warranty. The third, they said the charcoal cannister for the
evaporative emission system needed replacing and the induction system
needed to be purged for $650. The car by then was off the bumper to
bumper warranty and "induction purging" to me meant pour a can in the
tank and charge $250 for it. I said no and bought a software
upgradeable code reader (Auto X-Ray) from Auto Barn for $130. The light
has come on a few more times and the codes are related to the
evaporative emission control system . I think there's a drop of fuel in
the vacuum line that jams up one of the vacuum control switches. When
the weather gets nicer, I'll get under the car and check the stuff
around the cannister, but at the moment, the code reader was a great
buy. I'd suggest you go to AutoZone or whatever, have the codes read
and reset, and proceed from there. If it is evap it could be a hiccup.
If it is exhaust (cat, oxy sensor, EGR), have it fixed under the
warranty. At least you won't have to pay $60 to have the code read just
to find out the solution is to reset it and wait.

Cheers,
Mike Davis

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