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Old 21 Feb 2005, 06:44 pm   #1 (permalink)
JerseyMike
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on an '02 Camry LE.....is there a way to disengage the passenger airbag?
the car is a little cramped for the 3 kids in the back, 2 are in car seats
and my 8yr. old is squished between them. my wife wants to let him ride up
front but is afraid of the air bag. the manual says for kids in car seats
to move the seat all the way back, but nothing about disengaging the pass.
air bag.

thanks........

mike.............


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Old 21 Feb 2005, 09:35 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:44:58 +0000, JerseyMike wrote:

> on an '02 Camry LE.....is there a way to disengage the passenger airbag?
> the car is a little cramped for the 3 kids in the back, 2 are in car seats
> and my 8yr. old is squished between them. my wife wants to let him ride up
> front but is afraid of the air bag. the manual says for kids in car seats
> to move the seat all the way back, but nothing about disengaging the pass.
> air bag.
>
> thanks........
>
> mike.............


Hey, aren't you the guy that didn't want to wear a seat belt?
At least you care about the kids! (Actually, I'm pretty much the same way...)

If you place him in a booster seat, he should be just fine. The deal with
airbags and kids is that kids aren't as tall as adults. This is the whole
logic behind the booster seats; so the seat belts will work. Move the seat
back as far as it will go, put him in a booster seat and belt him! The
whole deal with the airbag is for kids in car seats sitting backwards.
When the air bag pops it smacks the backk of the car seat, and this is
what causes the problem. In another year or two, it won't make a
difference, unless he's small for his age.

Disengaging the airbag is 'discouraged' by law, and no dealer or certified
mechanic will do it. And you don't really want to try it yourself, you
could set the bag off, or do something that will cause the bag to deploy
when it shouldn't. Even reclining the seat back will gain some added room
from the bag.

Oh, here's a question for you: I'm almost 50. How did we ever survive
without the government looking after us when we were kids?

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Old 21 Feb 2005, 09:42 pm   #3 (permalink)
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hachiroku wrote:

> If you place him in a booster seat, he should be just fine. The deal
> with airbags and kids is that kids aren't as tall as adults. This is
> the whole logic behind the booster seats; so the seat belts will
> work. Move the seat back as far as it will go, put him in a booster
> seat and belt him! The
> whole deal with the airbag is for kids in car seats sitting backwards.
> When the air bag pops it smacks the backk of the car seat, and this is
> what causes the problem. In another year or two, it won't make a
> difference, unless he's small for his age.
>
> Disengaging the airbag is 'discouraged' by law, and no dealer or
> certified mechanic will do it. And you don't really want to try it
> yourself, you
> could set the bag off, or do something that will cause the bag to
> deploy when it shouldn't. Even reclining the seat back will gain some
> added room from the bag.
>

In the state of Indiana it's against the law to have a child under the age
of 12 in the front seat with the air bag on. There have been cases of
children and even small women being killed by the air bag. There was even a
woman decapitated a couple years ago by an air bag. IIRC she was very small
too.
I'm like you though, I'd think they would have to be close to the dash for
this to happen.
davidj92


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Old 21 Feb 2005, 10:41 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"hachiroku" <levin@ae86.gts> wrote in message
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> Hey, aren't you the guy that didn't want to wear a seat belt?
> At least you care about the kids! (Actually, I'm pretty much the same

way...)
>
> If you place him in a booster seat, he should be just fine. The deal with
> airbags and kids is that kids aren't as tall as adults. This is the whole
> logic behind the booster seats; so the seat belts will work. Move the seat
> back as far as it will go, put him in a booster seat and belt him! The
> whole deal with the airbag is for kids in car seats sitting backwards.
> When the air bag pops it smacks the backk of the car seat, and this is
> what causes the problem. In another year or two, it won't make a
> difference, unless he's small for his age.
>
> Disengaging the airbag is 'discouraged' by law, and no dealer or certified
> mechanic will do it. And you don't really want to try it yourself, you
> could set the bag off, or do something that will cause the bag to deploy
> when it shouldn't. Even reclining the seat back will gain some added room
> from the bag.
>
> Oh, here's a question for you: I'm almost 50. How did we ever survive
> without the government looking after us when we were kids?
>


yeah that's me, Mr. No Seatbelt user. i found that the clip from a '92
Taurus works just perfect for what i needed.

my wife doesn't want him in the front seat w/ the air bag activated. my
father-in-law has a ford f150 that has a way to deactivate the pass.airbag.
the owners manual for the Camry reads that infants must not be in the front
at all, but children in carseats are ok up front provided that the seat is
pushed all the way back. he is no longer required to use a car seat becaue
of his age, buty we don't want him in the front seat if there is a
possibility of an accidental injury w/ the airbag deployment even in a low
speed accident. i'll have to check if there is a min. age for children in
the front pass. seat. if he doesn't wat to be squished between his little
sisters, he may have to use a car seat up front.

mike..............


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Old 21 Feb 2005, 11:15 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:41:18 +0000, JerseyMike wrote:

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> "hachiroku" <levin@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hMxSd.60410$8a6.59812@trndny09...
>> Hey, aren't you the guy that didn't want to wear a seat belt?
>> At least you care about the kids! (Actually, I'm pretty much the same

> way...)
>>
>> If you place him in a booster seat, he should be just fine. The deal with
>> airbags and kids is that kids aren't as tall as adults. This is the whole
>> logic behind the booster seats; so the seat belts will work. Move the seat
>> back as far as it will go, put him in a booster seat and belt him! The
>> whole deal with the airbag is for kids in car seats sitting backwards.
>> When the air bag pops it smacks the backk of the car seat, and this is
>> what causes the problem. In another year or two, it won't make a
>> difference, unless he's small for his age.
>>
>> Disengaging the airbag is 'discouraged' by law, and no dealer or certified
>> mechanic will do it. And you don't really want to try it yourself, you
>> could set the bag off, or do something that will cause the bag to deploy
>> when it shouldn't. Even reclining the seat back will gain some added room
>> from the bag.
>>
>> Oh, here's a question for you: I'm almost 50. How did we ever survive
>> without the government looking after us when we were kids?
>>

>
> yeah that's me, Mr. No Seatbelt user. i found that the clip from a '92
> Taurus works just perfect for what i needed.
>
> my wife doesn't want him in the front seat w/ the air bag activated. my
> father-in-law has a ford f150 that has a way to deactivate the pass.airbag.
> the owners manual for the Camry reads that infants must not be in the front
> at all, but children in carseats are ok up front provided that the seat is
> pushed all the way back. he is no longer required to use a car seat becaue
> of his age, buty we don't want him in the front seat if there is a
> possibility of an accidental injury w/ the airbag deployment even in a low
> speed accident. i'll have to check if there is a min. age for children in
> the front pass. seat. if he doesn't wat to be squished between his little
> sisters, he may have to use a car seat up front.
>
> mike..............


Yeah, the trucks are required to have the shutoff because there aren't a
lot of places to put kids in a cab. But I don't believe there are
shut-offs for cars; they want you to put the little brats in the rear
(sorry, attempt at humor there; I love kids! They stay crunchy in milk!)
Some cars do have a method for disabling the bag, but they don't like to
give it out. Contact the dealer or Customer (we don't) Care and see if
they can help you. Again, you really don't want to do anything that will
cause a fault in the system, and the only solution seems to be removing
the bag itself, which no dealer or mechanic can do. They'll yank his
driver's license for like 3 years, I think...
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