Impression of our 2004 Toyota Camry LE 4 cyl

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Old 16 Mar 2005, 03:48 pm   #1 (permalink)
Al
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Just drove it to Florida and back to Ohio. We have about 10,000 miles on
it. It had a steering problem as delivered new from the dealer. There is a
tech bulletin out on this problem. Steering was stiff and a bit hard to
keep straight in your lane. Had a drift to the left. Took it back to the
dealer and they applied the fix the tech bulletin provided. It is now a
little better but steering still isn't what I would call A-1. Still stiff
and still requires a bit more consentration and attention to keep on
straight line. I would grade the steering as acceptable now, but barely,
and I'm not real happy with it. Another problem with this car is the air
conditioning. It works, but it doesn't get real cold. We took it to the
dealer and they checked it. They did nothing because they said it just met
the test requirements and standards - once again, barely. They told us it
will cool faster if we had the air on recirculate. I don't think we should
have to do that. They either made the air conditioning cheaper, or I got a
bad one.

The 4 cyl. provides enough power in most cases and the ride isn't bad.
However, coming back to Ohio on I-77 in the Carolinas, Virginia, and the
West Virginia Turnpike there were strong winds. With the marginal steering
of this car, it was hard to keep it from sideswiping another vehicle and the
was the winds were tossing it around.

Would I buy another? I think I would look for a different make that doesn't
have these conditions.

Al
PS - My mileage was good. (30 to 33, with regular gas, of course.)


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Old 16 Mar 2005, 03:56 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Al wrote:

> Just drove it to Florida and back to Ohio. We have about 10,000
> miles on it. It had a steering problem as delivered new from the
> dealer. There is a tech bulletin out on this problem. Steering was
> stiff and a bit hard to keep straight in your lane.


I remember someone else complaining about that also. Others suggested
the tires were the culprit. Fortunately you had a TSB deal with it.

>Another problem with this car is the air
> conditioning. It works, but it doesn't get real cold. We took it to
> the dealer and they checked it. They did nothing because they said
> it just met the test requirements and standards - once again, barely.
> They told us it will cool faster if we had the air on recirculate. I
> don't think we should have to do that. They either made the air
> conditioning cheaper, or I got a bad one.
>


I got the same answer about my 97 Camry. My 94 was great, even though
it was early in the R-134a days.

> Al
> PS - My mileage was good. (30 to 33, with regular gas, of course.)


How was the interior noise level and the quality of the controls?

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Old 17 Mar 2005, 07:50 am   #3 (permalink)
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Our 2003 Camry 4 cyl also has poor steering stability. We changed tires,
had the TSB performed. The soft suspension contributes to this mushy
steering and a side-to-side rocking. Our A/C is likewise not very cold.

After driving a Subaru Outback rental, I know that quick, crisp steering in
a larger vehicle is possible.

My next car will probably not be a Toyota...

"Al" <albertr@joimail.com> wrote in message
news:113hadqhijg6cba@corp.supernews.com...
> Just drove it to Florida and back to Ohio. We have about 10,000 miles on
> it. It had a steering problem as delivered new from the dealer. There is
> a tech bulletin out on this problem. Steering was stiff and a bit hard to
> keep straight in your lane. Had a drift to the left. Took it back to the
> dealer and they applied the fix the tech bulletin provided. It is now a
> little better but steering still isn't what I would call A-1. Still stiff
> and still requires a bit more consentration and attention to keep on
> straight line. I would grade the steering as acceptable now, but barely,
> and I'm not real happy with it. Another problem with this car is the air
> conditioning. It works, but it doesn't get real cold. We took it to the
> dealer and they checked it. They did nothing because they said it just
> met the test requirements and standards - once again, barely. They told
> us it will cool faster if we had the air on recirculate. I don't think we
> should have to do that. They either made the air conditioning cheaper, or
> I got a bad one.
>
> The 4 cyl. provides enough power in most cases and the ride isn't bad.
> However, coming back to Ohio on I-77 in the Carolinas, Virginia, and the
> West Virginia Turnpike there were strong winds. With the marginal
> steering of this car, it was hard to keep it from sideswiping another
> vehicle and the was the winds were tossing it around.
>
> Would I buy another? I think I would look for a different make that
> doesn't have these conditions.
>
> Al
> PS - My mileage was good. (30 to 33, with regular gas, of course.)
>



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Old 17 Mar 2005, 12:41 pm   #4 (permalink)
Big Kahuna
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In article <113hadqhijg6cba@corp.supernews.com>,
"Al" <albertr@joimail.com> wrote:

> Just drove it to Florida and back to Ohio. <snip>
> Would I buy another? I think I would look for a different make that doesn't
> have these conditions.


I just inherited a 2002 LE 4 from my Dad. The only issue I've seen is
that the steering was wavering and sometimes pulled a little. I had the
dealer check the alignment the last time I had service done and although
that was $$$ at a dealer ($70), it cured the problem. My Dad drove the
first 15k with the car (before I got it) in OK. The roads there are
pretty much crap; potholes, nasty curbs, and really bad roads
everywhere. Well, compared to super smooth CA anyway. So my theory is
that the alignment was kicked pretty hard on those OK roads and that was
the problem.

The car is very quiet and rolls extremely smooth. Once in a while, when
I roll up the driver's side window I get a little wind noise...like it
doesn't seal quite right....

I haven't had the steering problem since the service 2k ago. The AC is
freezing cold after about 5 minutes running. I just did a RT from CA to
OK and had no problems other than a $!*%*& sensor check engine light in
the middle of the desert at 1 a.m. that freaked me out....

Oh, and the car was made in Japan.

..02
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Old 20 Mar 2005, 07:14 pm   #5 (permalink)
Al
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How was the interior noise level and the quality of the controls?

Badgolferman,
Interior noise not too bad. Regarding controls: steering wheel and column
hides some of the dash gauges and idiot lights. Also, the tilt wheel
doesn't tilt much. Brake pedal seems to travel too much before brakes
engage. My main complaint with this car is the sub par steering. Steering
is vital. Toyota seems to have dropped the ball here.
Al


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