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Old 31 Mar 2005, 08:38 pm   #1 (permalink)
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2000 CE wheels are 14" - other trim lines I believe are 15"
Anyone know why this is? Cost cutting? Performance/handling
differences?
Seems the engine, suspension and tranny are the same as LE etc.
Anything else I need to be mindful of regarding CE equipment, or lack
of?
Did they strip alot of stuff out so they would have a lower entry
price point?
TIA
Bob
Just got 2000 CE Auto
49K miles
Lots of options, runs great.


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Old 01 Apr 2005, 10:11 am   #2 (permalink)
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BeeP wrote:
> 2000 CE wheels are 14" - other trim lines I believe are 15"
> Anyone know why this is? Cost cutting? Performance/handling
> differences?


> Just got 2000 CE Auto
> 49K miles
> Lots of options, runs great.

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Since you've already purchased the car, you might be interested why I
specifically sought out the 14" wheels even though the current trend is
toward larger and larger wheels.
My Camry is older - 14" was stock on the LE four cylinder that year,
but the 6 cylinder LE had 15" wheels.
Actually, the outside measurement of the tire and wheel combination
should be the same (or very, very close) for all wheel sizes.
What changes is the sidewall height or "aspect ratio."
Stated simply, taller sidewalls will flex more, so supposedly, shorter
sidewalls (that flex less) offer better handling when turning. However,
I like some sidewall flex because it makes the ride more "compliant" -
ie., more comfortable - the tire sidewalls soak up some ride harshness.
Then you can fine tune that to some extent by adjusting tire pressure.
I finally settled on 30 front and 26 rear as the best overall
compromise for 1-2 people in the car most of the time. (However that
could compromise the tendency for the car to "understeer" at the limits
of traction where the front wheels slide instead of the rear tires
sliding out of control (car can spin out into a ditch with oversteering
- with understeering you just let up on the gas to regain control - a
natural reaction for most people) - so you might want to stay with the
factory recommendation of equal pressures front and rear which is safer
for most people.)
Larger wheels are also heavier and that would be inertial (rotating)
mass which has an even greater effect on (slowing) acceleration than
weight in the body of the car.
My Toyota (older) pick up truck has even taller sidewalls (75 aspect
ratio - means the sidewall is 75% of the tire width), and it actually
rides even more smoothly than the Camry in some ways. For the truck the
taller sidewalls also mean the tire holds more air for more load
capacity.
With the 15" inch wheels, you'll also find those tires are somewhat
wider than yours. (shorter sidewall - wider width - maybe 205mm instead
of 195mm for example). The wider tread width is also supposed to
improve cornering traction. On the other hand, more tread on the
pavement increases rolling resistance and aerodynamic drag. Plus, if
the weight is the same, wider tread width means less weight per square
inch so traction could actually be reduced - tires need to be matched
to the car.

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Old 01 Apr 2005, 08:59 pm   #3 (permalink)
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I had an LE before I bought the CE. The LE was a 97 and was equipped
with a cruise and ABS brakes. The CE ( I bought because of a lot lower
mileage ) has no Cruise Control, and no ABS. other than that, the
wheel sizes were the same, but the CE had Steel rims, and the 97 had
alloys. I had the Dealership swap out the wheels as part of the deal,
"cause I had tires on them that were, in my opinion, better
tires.Alloys v Steel doesn't really matter much to me. other than that
I cannot tell any difference between the two vehicles I have owned.
They're even the same color and I have friends that don't know I have
traded up year model, they are so much alike. There may be a radio
upgrade to the LE , but I can't imagine getting a better sounding
AM/FM/CD radio than the one in the CE I have Currently.


>2000 CE wheels are 14" - other trim lines I believe are 15"
>Anyone know why this is? Cost cutting? Performance/handling
>differences?
>Seems the engine, suspension and tranny are the same as LE etc.
>Anything else I need to be mindful of regarding CE equipment, or lack
>of?
>Did they strip alot of stuff out so they would have a lower entry
>price point?
>TIA
>Bob
>Just got 2000 CE Auto
>49K miles
>Lots of options, runs great.
>




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